Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls

[theorangeapple]

I think his goal kicking attributes will be vital as a forward option for the eagles in the future. If not, why draft the forward? Why not go for a Lucy who will fill the FB hole for you? My point is, why draft the player if you can't see him slotting into the side? It's just drafting for drafting's sake otherwise.

We can live without Mckinley, obviously we would love him to be a player but we didnt use a first round pick on him and we already have the 2nd youngest squad in the league.

We draft the best available. I would rather a good quality player who may not get as many games than a KP dud who is delisted in 2yrs. Yesteday, we took the best available and we have done that for the best 4yrs. Unlike most clubs, we continue our policy for the whole draft.

 

[theorangeapple]

Douglas >>> Tigers
Hurn >>>> Crows
Oakley-Nichols >>> Eagles

How about it?

From what Hurn has said about coming west, I dont think he will be leaving anytime soon. He seems like a bloke of real character and I cannot see him leaving lightly.

 

[LukeHodge15]

seems a little strange that the tigers by-passed a forward in mitch clarke 4 another terry wallace running wingman. amassing an awesome midfield but who is going to kick the goals?

 

[LukeHodge15]

From what Hurn has said about coming west, I dont think he will be leaving anytime soon. He seems like a bloke of real character and I cannot see him leaving lightly.

still shaking my head at hurn slipping to 13

 

[Rich01]

seems a little strange that the tigers by-passed a forward in mitch clarke 4 another terry wallace running wingman. amassing an awesome midfield but who is going to kick the goals?

That was my concern too. But like the rest of us, I'm no recruiter. Miller and co rated Ryder, Kennedy and Dowler as the three best KP in the draft and would have nabbed one of them had they fell through. Miller loved Clarke this time last year, but had gone off him due to perceived attitude problems. More attitude problems are the last thing we need in the Richmond forward line wouldn't you agree? Cleve Hughes was rated he 4th best tall (over Clark) by the Tiges so to get him at 24 was a bonus.

Oakley-Nicolls was rated the best running wingman by Richmond in the draft. So with no talls left, we went for JON. A centreline of Tambling-Deledio-JON in 4 years time will hopefully reap us a few midfield goals.

 

[Rich01]

We draft the best available. I would rather a good quality player who may not get as many games than a KP dud who is delisted in 2yrs. Yesteday, we took the best available and we have done that for the best 4yrs. Unlike most clubs, we continue our policy for the whole draft.

TOA, interested to hear your opinion on another WA boy the tiges picked up, Travis Casserley. Tiges were interested at 24, but grabbed him at 40 instead. Some people on PRE saying that he plays like young Selwood at WCE. What are your thoughts?

 

[LukeHodge15]

That was my concern too. But like the rest of us, I'm no recruiter. Miller and co rated Ryder, Kennedy and Dowler as the three best KP in the draft and would have nabbed one of them had they fell through. Miller loved Clarke this time last year, but had gone off him due to perceived attitude problems. More attitude problems are the last thing we need in the Richmond forward line wouldn't you agree? Cleve Hughes was rated he 4th best tall (over Clark) by the Tiges so to get him at 24 was a bonus.

Oakley-Nicolls was rated the best running wingman by Richmond in the draft. So with no talls left, we went for JON. A centreline of Tambling-Deledio-JON in 4 years time will hopefully reap us a few midfield goals.

hughes a good prospect leading chf so u might be on a winner there.

imagine clarke and hughes as ur first 2 picks. i would be salivating if i was a richmond supporter thinking of that forawrd line.

ur midfield starting to look like wallaces at the bulldogs

meyer
lids
tambling
oakley nicholls
couglan
tuck
hyde
johnson
krakeour
newman
tuck

hopefully for richmond one of the super draft 2006 talls falls ur way

 

[Rich01]

hughes a good prospect leading chf so u might be on a winner there.

imagine clarke and hughes as ur first 2 picks. i would be salivating if i was a richmond supporter thinking of that forawrd line.

ur midfield starting to look like wallaces at the bulldogs

meyer
lids
tambling
oakley nicholls
couglan
tuck
hyde
johnson
krakeour
newman
tuck

hopefully for richmond one of the super draft 2006 talls falls ur way

You are missing the point. Why take a tall for a tall's sake? If we took Clark at 8, who's to say Brisbane wouldn't have taken him at 9? Or someone else would have picked up Hughes before then as a result of the change in draft circumstances? If we didn't rate Clark as a player, there is no point taking him just because he is tall.

Very happy with the way the midfield is panning out.

Looking forward to Pattison, Hughes, Schulz and Thursfield all stepping into KP posts over the next few years. Of course another KP in the 2006 draft would be handy!

 

[Weaver]

seems a little strange that the tigers by-passed a forward in mitch clarke 4 another terry wallace running wingman. amassing an awesome midfield but who is going to kick the goals?

The midfield.

Expect a Swans type set-up with one key forward (eg Schulz) some mid-sized mobile guys who can mark and kick (eg Meyer, Deledio, JON), some mid-size guys like Brown and Pettifer, and some ground level roving from Tambling or Rodan.

Pattison, Simmonds can go there as a resting ruckman for an extra target.

Still have Hughes, McGuane and Limbach to try out as well.

 

[Weaver]

imagine clarke and hughes as ur first 2 picks. i would be salivating if i was a richmond supporter thinking of that forawrd line.

Yeah but you are signed-up to the Hawthorn approach / tradition that has 3 big blokes at either end of the ground.

Richmond aren't going that way. We are going to be happy to have Bowden at CHF and conceed a couple of goals but get the run and possesion in return. Chances are Deledio, Tuck or Meyer will be our CHF.

If I was recruiting for Hawthorn then Clarke and Hughes would look good but that would be a lousy result for Richmond. On the other hand JON might be no gun, but suits our system perfectly.

 

[coasting]

I really like Oakley-Nicholls but Richmond made a mistake not taking Mitchell Clarke. He would have been the perfect replacement for Richo in a year or two. You don't get many chances at players of that quality.

 

[theorangeapple]

TOA, interested to hear your opinion on another WA boy the tiges picked up, Travis Casserley. Tiges were interested at 24, but grabbed him at 40 instead. Some people on PRE saying that he plays like young Selwood at WCE. What are your thoughts?

I havent seen anywhere near enough to comment. From what I have heard of him, Selwood seems a fair comparision. Both got good motors, nice heights etc. I think the Selwood twins are abit harder at it and more inside. But I think Casserly has more consistant disposal (I can only really speak for Adam but his disposal can be abit hit and miss at times).

 

[White Czar]

I really like Oakley-Nicholls but Richmond made a mistake not taking Mitchell Clarke. He would have been the perfect replacement for Richo in a year or two. You don't get many chances at players of that quality.

Shattered.

 

[coasting]

Casserly is a quick, skillful receiver with a good leap, good overhead. However, he can go missing a bit at times, a bit like Oakley-Nicholls.

 

[Rich01]

Casserly is a quick, skillful receiver with a good leap, good overhead. However, he can go missing a bit at times, a bit like Oakley-Nicholls.

Thanks Coasting and TOA for that info. It seems as if we are mixing our solid ball winners with impact players.

Deledio, Tambling, Foley and Polo have been complemented in impact players Meyer, Casserley and J-O-N. Add experience Coughlan, Johnson, Newman and Tuck to that and you have a great mix of mids.

There are others, but I don't expect many of these to be more than periphery / depth players.

 

[richcogs]

Embers was saying yesterday Oakley-Nicholls was in his mind no dought the most talented player in the draft, but was a hugh risk. Can someone make some sense of this?

 

[Rich01]

Shattered.

Get a grip mate. Typical pessimism that gives Richmond supporters a bad rep.

 

[LukeHodge15]

Yeah but you are signed-up to the Hawthorn approach / tradition that has 3 big blokes at either end of the ground.

Richmond aren't going that way. We are going to be happy to have Bowden at CHF and conceed a couple of goals but get the run and possesion in return. Chances are Deledio, Tuck or Meyer will be our CHF.

If I was recruiting for Hawthorn then Clarke and Hughes would look good but that would be a lousy result for Richmond. On the other hand JON might be no gun, but suits our system perfectly.

good point.

question 4 u weaver.

"which set-up do u favour in winning games and finals?"

i'm still of the favour in key position marking forwards winning u games.......just makes it so hard on the backman when the ball comes in quick and the key forward is one on one and has sticky fingers.

 

[White Czar]

A question for those of you which have seen young Oakley-Nicholls.

What player would you say he plays similar to, in terms of playing style that is currently playing AFL?

A Clarke, Johncock or Burgoyne for example?

 

[Weaver]

"which set-up do u favour in winning games and finals?"

i'm still of the favour in key position marking forwards winning u games.......just makes it so hard on the backman when the ball comes in quick and the key forward is one on one and has sticky fingers.

I think a high quality KF like Hall or Tredrea is like gold. I think 2nd tier guys like Kingsley or McDougall may as well not take the field. I don't think so much about key forwards vs mobile forwards.

Personally I think it is about the midfield and always has been. If you can keep the opposition to forty inside-50s your defence can be rubbish and it doesn't matter. If you go inside-50 on sixty or more occasions your forwards can be rubbish and you can kick a winning score.

My concern about Richmond is not about forward set-ups or key defenders.

I think history says that good pressure teams beat good possesion teams. That a game plan bit around high possesion and executing skills under pressure goes to water in finals pressure.

I can see Richmond being a very exciting team that generates highlights but gets knocked out in week 2 of the finals as the wingers get sat on their backsides and can't win a kick when it matters.

But that is the gameplan, that is what they are building, and the pieces are coming together.

 

[Weaver]

What player would you say he plays similar to, in terms of playing style that is currently playing AFL?

Tough one. A little bit of Nigel Lappin, Andrew Walker, Tadgh Kennelly or Travis Johnstone about him. Tall, quick, good kick. Not a pure centre-square player, more a wingman. Talking about playing style.

 

[White Czar]

Tough one. A little bit of Nigel Lappin, Andrew Walker, Tadgh Kennelly or Travis Johnstone about him. Tall, quick, good kick. Not a pure centre-square player, more a wingman. Talking about playing style.

So you consiter Oakley-Nicholls more a long term winger for the Tigers?

(starts to daydream about Tambling/Oakley-Nicholls on the wings, Deledio/Cogs/Tuck in the guts )

From what i read of him in the paper he is sounds a half back flanker who cleans up and runs with decent speed & skill.

Mind you footydraft.com has him reckons "he dominated some games playing ruck, full forward, wing, rover and centre half forward. He looked a class above and proved to be one of the hardest players to match up on".

 

[Lenny*]

With Andrew Swallow rated higher by alot more poeple than Casserly was... why did we choose Travis Casserly when Swallow was still availble?? Both WA boys aswell.

Also whats Oakley-Nicholls 20m sprint time compared with Deledio's and Tambling's last year?

 

[:::buddy38:::]

With Andrew Swallow rated higher by alot more poeple than Casserly was... why did we choose Travis Casserly when Swallow was still availble?? Both WA boys aswell.

Also whats Oakley-Nicholls 20m sprint time compared with Deledio's and Tambling's last year?

20m sprint quiker than deledios and tamblings

jarred Oakley-Nicholls (East Perth) - 2.85sec
Richard Tambling (Southern Districts) - 2.87sec
Brett Deledio (Murray Bushrangers) - 2.90sec

And on why richmond took travis before swallow. They were going to take Travis with pick 24 they rated him that highly but when Cleve Hughes was still available they took him in hope that Travis would still be there at pick 40 and he was

 

[Lenny*]

20m sprint quiker than deledios and tamblings

jarred Oakley-Nicholls (East Perth) - 2.85sec
Richard Tambling (Southern Districts) - 2.87sec
Brett Deledio (Murray Bushrangers) - 2.90sec

And on why richmond took travis before swallow. They were going to take Travis with pick 24 they rated him that highly but when Cleve Hughes was still available they took him in hope that Travis would still be there at pick 40 and he was

Oakley-Nicholls is faster than Deledio and Tambling
Also read that he loves to carry the ball.

I think I can see what Wallace is doing, Deledio, Tambling and JON all super-quick, super-sillky skilled ball carriers running through the midfeild.