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[Hawkk]

Not disagreeing with your first statement but Hawthorn expected Labor to win the Federal election and had funding lined up with them ($20M).

So we had shown we sided with Federal Labor (did that piss of the Federal Liberals, who knows? but we didn't get anything from them after the election) and then went on to piss off State Labor. That is not smart! Maybe we were looking at the Greens or Palmer to help us out.....

Traditionally Hawthorn's membership is nested in the districts of Hawthorn, Box Hill, Burwood and Kew...

Electoral District of Hawthorn ~ 50.42 / 49.58 ALP gain (1st time)
Electoral District of Box Hill ~ 52.10 / 48.90 ALP gain (1st time)
Electoral Distict of Burwood ~ 53.31 / 46.69 ALP gain (1st time)
Electorial District of Kew ~ 54.41 / 45.59 Liberal hold (albeit with a 6% swing against)

Not to get too political science like but if you throw in Caufield that's pretty much the blue wedge which is pretty important to any Victorian State Government.

Now the question is, are constitutents in these seats as likely to vote for a party based on looking after their football club as say the city of Geelong?

The state seat which encompasses Dingley (Mordialloc) and Waverley Park (Mulgrave - Daniel Andrews seat (lol)) are very Labor strongholds

...so whilst constitutents in these seats could benefit from Hawthorn's infrastructure spend, how much penetration does Hawthorn really have in these communities?

It's a bit like Caroline Springs in the west...

 

[Randy Campbell]

So let’s cut the chase.

Jeff’s thinks his comments have cost the club millions of dollars, and he makes no apology for it.

So, if Jeff said nothing about what he thinks his comments have done, then no one would know about it.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

So, if Jeff said nothing about what he thinks his comments have done, then no one would know about it.

I think he was stating the bleeding obvious, to be honest.

But when he announced that he himself thinks his words had an impact there can be no question.

 

[Yardie]

Traditionally Hawthorn's membership is nested in the districts of Hawthorn, Box Hill, Burwood and Kew...

Electoral District of Hawthorn ~ 50.42 / 49.58 ALP gain (1st time)
Electoral District of Box Hill ~ 52.10 / 48.90 ALP gain (1st time)
Electoral Distict of Burwood ~ 53.31 / 46.69 ALP gain (1st time)
Electorial District of Kew ~ 54.41 / 45.59 Liberal hold (albeit with a 6% swing against)

Not to get too political science like but if you throw in Caufield that's pretty much the blue wedge which is pretty important to any Victorian State Government.

Now the question is, are constitutents in these seats as likely to vote for a party based on looking after their football club as say the city of Geelong?

The state seat which encompasses Dingley (Mordialloc) and Waverley Park (Mulgrave - Daniel Andrews seat (lol)) are very Labor strongholds

...so whilst constitutents in these seats could benefit from Hawthorn's infrastructure spend, how much penetration does Hawthorn really have in these communities?

It's a bit like Caroline Springs in the west...

Probably no penetration to be honest. However, Jeff should have been translating Federal Labor backing into State Labor backing once the Liberals won the Federal election.

The question for me is what was Jeff really trying to accomplish by lashing out? IMO it was because he wants to feel relevant again . And that is fine, but if that is the case he should resign as President of HFC and go back into politics.

 

[Randy Campbell]

I think he was stating the bleeding obvious, to be honest.

But when he announced that he himself thinks his words had an impact there can be no question.

Hopefully, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

 

[Hawk Dork]

And dinosaurs become extinct

 

[Randy Campbell]

And dinosaurs become extinct

Which we need for the grease.

 

[hamohawk1]

Its continual s*it like this that is going to make the State Government as difficult as it can be with Dingley with regard to funding and general support

 

[Lickmesocks]

Not going to debate the content.

But what is Jeff's agenda? What does he want to get out of this? What is his end game?

Jeff’s agenda is and has always been about one thing.... Jeff.

Jeff has always been conflicted.

In saying all of this I like him as President as he is the master of distraction (politics will do this to you) and when the club is under fire for poor performance he will sling some mud somewhere else and move the heat and media elsewhere.

He doesn’t care what anyone says about him which is a handy trait also .

 

[Yardie]

Jeff’s agenda is and has always been about one thing.... Jeff.

Jeff has always been conflicted.

In saying all of this I like him as President as he is the master of distraction (politics will do this to you) and when the club is under fire for poor performance he will sling some mud somewhere else and move the heat and media elsewhere.

He doesn’t care what anyone says about him which is a handy trait also .

I too like him as president but don't think this helps the club.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Yeah, I’m in the same boat.

 

[Billyc]

Even if I agree with him on the Australian Open (and I do), his role is Hawthorn president and he continues to damage the club with his incessant criticism of the government. Let's not pretend he would not be criticising the government if it cancelled the Open too - he was critical of lockdown for the economic impacts. He is just as hypocritical as the politician he is attacking. His criticism is gratuitous and I really wish he would resign the Hawthorn presidency if political point scoring is to be his focus.

 

[Flukey!]

Agreed that the current opposition is non-existent, but Jeff’s not a pollie anymore.

He is however the HFC president.

Agreed, but this is his his personal account.
He is not speaking on behalf of the club.

 

[Rhayader]

Agreed, but this is his his personal account.
He is not speaking on behalf of the club.

People with a high profile can't simply separate their personal public comments from their professional responsibilities. Even if he and the club believed that, it's not how it works externally. And he knows that: his own opinion is that his speaking out has been detrimental to the club.

 

[VandoHawk]

It always devolves into an argument about whether Jeff is wrong or right rather than whether his actions are in the best interest of the HFC. If you think his views are correct then good for you, it should have 0 impact on the conversation.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Agreed, but this is his his personal account.
He is not speaking on behalf of the club.

Incorrect. He very much is.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Not going to debate the content.

But what is Jeff's agenda? What does he want to get out of this? What is his end game?

He was Trump before Trump was Trump

 

[Gaston]

Agreed that the current opposition is non-existent, but Jeff’s not a pollie anymore.

He is however the HFC president.

Essentially your statement is correct but therein lies the problem,
either at times he still thinks he is or in actual fact, Jeff may consider himself a career pollie.

 

[Mercy Seat]

None of the other club presidents were the premier of Victoria for 8 years. If you think Jeff having been premier is of no relevance then you are kidding yourself. he Is calling out the rank hypocrisy of the Vic govt. what he said is 100% correct and when he says stuff, it gets attention, unlike the current opposition who are non existent.

100% correct to a portion of the population. Completely batshit crazy to another portion. His views are completely divisive and just because you agree with it doesn’t mean everyone else does. If he and people want or need him to be the proxy opposition, let someone else be president.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

The major problem here is Andrews not Kennett.

No, the major problem here is a vindictive politician who is forgetting that his role is to serve the HFC’s best interests.

 

[Pessimistic]

Exactly.

Look no further then the death rates during the Spanish Flu, Asian Flu, Hong Kong Flu and even Swine Flu between Australia, the UK and the USA

I said Jeff’s ‘brand’ of advice. It’s loose not exact. He doesn’t sound much different from failed administrations

 

[BobDay]

No, the major problem here is a vindictive politician who is forgetting that his role is to serve the HFC’s best interests.

To suggest Kennett does not have the best interests of the Hawthorn football club at heart is vindictive.
If you truly believe it then do something about it.

 

[Pessimistic]

This is the crux of the issue.
Andrews is the major
Your post acknowledges that Andrews is vindictive. And that we are being denied funds because we dit's a


This is the crux of the issue.
Most critics here seem to acknowledge that we are being denied funds because Kennett is critical of Andrews.
The major problem here is Andrews not Kennett.

Andrews is vindictive and a hater. Ask his former close friend and confidant Jenny Mikakos and other faction members who had the fortitude disagree with him and were cut off completely.

It is amusing at many here want to blame Kennett for Andrew's vindictiveness. Most criticisms have been correct and repeated by other busininess and community leaders who do not fear Andrews and are prepared to speak up. The rare exception is Lindsay Fox; but of course Fox has made a lot of money off Andrews.
We will not get any state money as long as Andrews is premier. But that may not be as long as you think. Andrews will run off to work with Lindsay Fox or one Lindsay's mates and leave his old leftie mate to eat cake.

Jeff, in one of his rants says the Andrews govt ‘wastes’ money. Next minute wanting to get some of that money?

Oh but of course it’s about COVID.

And make no mistake, it’s ranting

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

To suggest Kennett does not have the best interests of the Hawthorn football club at heart is vindictive.
If you truly believe it then do something about it.

Kennett does not have the best interests of the HFC at heart all of the time.

That is a certified fact when he tells media that he knows his comments have hurt the club, but that he’ll continue to make them.


"Mr Kennett told the Herald Sun he is "absolutely" certain his stinging criticism of (the Andrews Government)... cost the club its anticipated funding."

But he has no regrets over his criticism, saying: 'There are some things in life that are more important than money.’

There it is in black and white. His politics are more important than state funding of our biggest project to date.

 

[MrPremiership]

No, the major problem here is a vindictive politician who is forgetting that his role is to serve the HFC’s best interests.

You keep fighting the good fight, but it just seems not to be getting through. I think posters just can't separate issues.

In his role as President of Hawthorn, he believes he's doing things negatively effecting Hawthorn and has refused to stop doing so.

Seems like the only way posters would have a problem with this is if he did it with his dick in his hand.