List Mgmt. Jeremy Cameron traded to Geelong

What will happen with Cameron?


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Not bagging gws. Just saying I suspect we may be annoyed with some aspects of how they have played this (matching at a much higher price than they offered and doing things rather publicly).
I listened to the Wells interview - he specifically said that GWS want better compensation than what they would have received under free agency - so what have GWS done wrong ? - its their player so they want the optimum result - which if JC does come to Geel they will now get

All this garbage being posted bagging the GWS club is a carbon copy of Eagles supporters bagging the Geel club - calling them bandits for wanting the ultimate compensation for Tim Kelly which we got

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Not bagging gws. Just saying I suspect we may be annoyed with some aspects of how they have played this (matching at a much higher price than they offered and doing things rather publicly).

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I suspect .. the supporters carry bigger grudges than clubs ..most of the time. They have to just move on..where as supporters bring up stuff just to sling mud and not care about having to complete a deal... Adelaide supporters still moaning about Danger for an example.
 
Why would he talk about menegola? It was a made up story with zero basis. It’s not even worth pissing on, let alone talking about.

We could say the same about Clark but yeah he got a mention so why not say Menegola wasnt going anywhere same situation 🤷‍♂️

Plenty of talk about him possibly being traded in the trading thread so im not the only one thinking it.
 

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I listened to the Wells interview - he specifically said that GWS want better compensation than what they would have received under free agency - so what have GWS done wrong ? - its their player so they want the optimum result - which if JC does come to Geel they will now get

All this garbage being posted bagging the GWS club is a carbon copy of Eagles supporters bagging the Geel club - calling them bandits for wanting the ultimate compensation for Tim Kelly which we got

What has GWS done wrong other than being petulant you mean?

It's fair enough to name a price, but to then be so childish as to not respond to attempts at negotiation, and play their hand the way they did - starting before the GF - is amateurish and deserving of the irritation shown by Wells.

It demonstrates a lack of class and culture that clearly plagues their club and repels some of their players.
 
Essendon have picks 6+7 which is what I'd be going after, but they'll be a PITA to deal with. Not sure if Gold Coast would trade pick 5.

Pick 5 = 1,878 (GC)
Pick 6 = 1,751 (ESS)
Pick 7 = 1,644 (ESS)
Pick 8 = 1,551 (CARL)

Assume we keep pick 13, pick 15+20 = 2,024

Carlton have Pick 8+30 = 2,180, so probably a deal to be done there.

We give GWS pick 8+13, they give us Jeremy Cameron + Pick 10

So we take pick 10, pick 30 and pick 38 to the draft.

or could package a combination of those picks to go higher up the draft if a club wanted the points.
 
Essendon have picks 6+7 which is what I'd be going after, but they'll be a PITA to deal with. Not sure if Gold Coast would trade pick 5.

Pick 5 = 1,878 (GC)
Pick 6 = 1,751 (ESS)
Pick 7 = 1,644 (ESS)
Pick 8 = 1,551 (CARL)

Assume we keep pick 13, pick 15+20 = 2,024

Carlton have Pick 8+30 = 2,180, so probably a deal to be done there.

We give GWS pick 8+13, they give us Jeremy Cameron + Pick 10

So we take pick 10, pick 30 and pick 38 to the draft.

or could package a combination of those picks to go higher up the draft if a club wanted the points.
Don’t think there’s any chance that we’d be getting a first back from gws under any circumstances
 
Wells was also live on the Foxtel trading show. The cats got the memo this morning that the public narrative and fantasy circle jerk was getting out of hand.

Old gutless Ralph after creating fanciful demands like 3 1st rounders and or gun players for the last week has Wells in person and limply asks well Parfitt, Esava and Clark are going nowhere so would you think about two first rounders?
 
Essendon have picks 6+7 which is what I'd be going after, but they'll be a PITA to deal with. Not sure if Gold Coast would trade pick 5.

Pick 5 = 1,878 (GC)
Pick 6 = 1,751 (ESS)
Pick 7 = 1,644 (ESS)
Pick 8 = 1,551 (CARL)

Assume we keep pick 13, pick 15+20 = 2,024

Carlton have Pick 8+30 = 2,180, so probably a deal to be done there.

We give GWS pick 8+13, they give us Jeremy Cameron + Pick 10

So we take pick 10, pick 30 and pick 38 to the draft.

or could package a combination of those picks to go higher up the draft if a club wanted the points.
What a disaster for us
 
Essendon have picks 6+7 which is what I'd be going after, but they'll be a PITA to deal with. Not sure if Gold Coast would trade pick 5.

Pick 5 = 1,878 (GC)
Pick 6 = 1,751 (ESS)
Pick 7 = 1,644 (ESS)
Pick 8 = 1,551 (CARL)

Assume we keep pick 13, pick 15+20 = 2,024

Carlton have Pick 8+30 = 2,180, so probably a deal to be done there.

We give GWS pick 8+13, they give us Jeremy Cameron + Pick 10

So we take pick 10, pick 30 and pick 38 to the draft.

or could package a combination of those picks to go higher up the draft if a club wanted the points.
I don't mind that from our point of view but it's basically the same as the compo they knocked back
 
What are your thoughts on this scenario Adam Cooney concocted?

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A team can't trade a future 1st and 2nd can they?
 
I agree

He was pick 11 two years ago, now Essendon come to poach him (and it does feel like poaching when talking about a second year player), as they've put a ridiculous deal to the kid, reported to be about $450k per year - seriously hard for a second year player to turn down that sort of offer

Clearly Essendon rate him highly enough based on that contract - this is when a team should be made to pay up. Essendon's current first round picks are probably too high, but a future second seems such a typical Dodoro offer

To be fair hes not worth top 7 hes worth a late first they just dont have one (yet).
 

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I get Wells saying GWS want more than the compo pick, but surely now that both teams are communicating, it'd be pointed out to GWS how foolish it was to forego the compo pick. Could have easily had the pick 10 + more through some creative trades, rather than acting like a petulant child when Cameron already made it clear during GF week that he was out the door. What a waste.
 
I get Wells saying GWS want more than the compo pick, but surely now that both teams are communicating, it'd be pointed out to GWS how foolish it was to forego the compo pick. Could have easily had the pick 10 + more through some creative trades, rather than acting like a petulant child when Cameron already made it clear during GF week that he was out the door. What a waste.
100% what I have always said.... It didn't need to get to this.
In the End GWS might get slightly more value from us, but it makes no sense because I don't understand what they expect us to cough up.
I guess in the end, GWS are hoping that we completely bend over to get the deal done (which i am praying we don't).
They could have taken a better pick than we can offer and gone shopping with it straight away... and we would owe them some sort of decent offside trade.
Reckon they are making enemies here and I'm triggered by it, because imagine getting Cameron, Smith and Higgins in, and keeping our 3 first rounders... GWS smashed that dream scenario for us and treated a guy like Cameron, who has given them 9/10 great years of service no respect by offering him way unders and then matching once he said bye bye to them.
Poor by GWS....very poor all round.
 
Just a shame he's such a tool with the most punchable head on the footy field
Remember Hayden Ballantyne and Brodie Holland? I think they set the record for punchable heads, even 80 year old grannys would be lining up to take a swing hayden ballantyne.png brodie holland.jpg
 
100% what I have always said.... It didn't need to get to this.
In the End GWS might get slightly more value from us, but it makes no sense because I don't understand what they expect us to cough up.
I guess in the end, GWS are hoping that we completely bend over to get the deal done (which i am praying we don't).
They could have taken a better pick than we can offer and gone shopping with it straight away... and we would owe them some sort of decent offside trade.
Reckon they are making enemies here and I'm triggered by it, because imagine getting Cameron, Smith and Higgins in, and keeping our 3 first rounders... GWS smashed that dream scenario for us and treated a guy like Cameron, who has given them 9/10 great years of service no respect by offering him way unders and then matching once he said bye bye to them.
Poor by GWS....very poor all round.
I am curious, and apologies if you've previously explained, but what would you have thought was the best for both teams , to see us getting those players, particularly Cameron?
 
Remember Hayden Ballantyne and Brodie Holland? I think they set the record for punchable heads, even 80 year old grannys would be lining up to take a swingView attachment 1004226View attachment 1004227

Oh yeah...... Ballantyne.

He's the one Scarlett punched, isn't he? I was disappointed in Scarlett's action.....cos he didn't go hard enough 😠
 
What has GWS done wrong other than being petulant you mean?

It's fair enough to name a price, but to then be so childish as to not respond to attempts at negotiation, and play their hand the way they did - starting before the GF - is amateurish and deserving of the irritation shown by Wells.

It demonstrates a lack of class and culture that clearly plagues their club and repels some of their players.
Where does this come from? Unless it categorically comes from S WELLS, is it just impatience on our behalf?
 
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Oh yeah...... Ballantyne.

He's the one Scarlett punched, isn't he? I was disappointed in Scarlett's action.....cos he didn't go hard enough 😠
Sicily wins this category for me, unless we ever get him...
 

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