Player Watch JHF - Jason Horne-Francis

[Soggy2112]

At 20 years old?

I think you missed my point, post said he would be in the top 20-25 currently in the league, I said I don’t think he’s there at the moment.

I think he will be the number one player in the game at some point.

 

[Total Power]

I think you missed my point, post said he would be in the top 20-25 currently in the league, I said I don’t think he’s there at the moment.

I think he will be the number one player in the game at some point.

Well he finished just outside the top 20 in last years Brownlow as a 19 year old.

 

[Soggy2112]

Well he finished just outside the top 20 in last years Brownlow as a 19 year old.

Brownlow votes are not an accurate reflection on the quality of a player.

 

[Total Power]

Brownlow votes are not an accurate reflection on the quality of a player.

Sure isnt, but neither are subjective opinions. I think he was one of our best players last year and we finished top 3 on the ladder.

 

[Soggy2112]

Sure isnt, but neither are subjective opinions. I think he was one of our best players last year and we finished top 3 on the ladder.

So we shouldn’t share subjective opinions?

Time to close the website down.

 

[jackag24]

I can't believe this thread is still running hot and neutrals just gather to talk about Judas

 

[Total Power]

So we shouldn’t share subjective opinions?

Time to close the website down.

You absolutely can, but Brownlow votes also carry a lot of weight, although you might disagree. It's another subjective metric. Your comment was 'brownlows aren't an accurate' reflection, sure, no stat/opinion are accurate really cause we all have bias' but still it's a reflection that carries more weight than subjective armchair votes.

 

[Soggy2112]

You absolutely can, but Brownlow votes also carry a lot of weight, although you might disagree. It's another subjective metric. Your comment was 'brownlows aren't an accurate' reflection, sure, no stat/opinion are accurate really cause we all have bias' but still it's a reflection that carries more weight than subjective armchair votes.

Fair, however if we’re talking about who the top 20, 30, 40 etc players are I don’t think the overly relevant to discuss Brownlow votes.

It’s a relevant stat if you’re talking midfielders but not overall players IMO.

 

[Total Power]

Fair, however if we’re talking about who the top 20, 30, 40 etc players are I don’t think the overly relevant to discuss Brownlow votes.

It’s a relevant stat if you’re talking midfielders but not overall players IMO.

Mids dominate the votes though.

 

[Soggy2112]

Mids dominate the votes though.

I know, that’s my point.

 

[T2B_]

Great young player, his ability to hit a leading target while running absolutely flat chat from a stoppage is a real weapon.

 

[Total Power]

I know, that’s my point.

That's my point too, it's good metric for mids.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I’m sorry guys but he is just a bit meh

As it stands I think that on the talent scale, I’d take George Wardlaw over JHF. Id be staggered in that sense if Wardlaw doesn’t have the better career when it’s all said and done .

The trade was still worth it for Port but he isn’t taking the club to the next level. He is nothing more then Ports 3rd best midfielder

 

[cosmicwinduptoy]

I’m sorry guys but he is just a bit meh

As it stands I think that on the talent scale, I’d take George Wardlaw over JHF. Id be staggered in that sense if Wardlaw doesn’t have the better career when it’s all said and done .

The trade was still worth it for Port but he isn’t taking the club to the next level. He is nothing more then Ports 3rd best midfielder

Great example of recency bias.

 

[JimmyBC]

I’m sorry guys but he is just a bit meh

As it stands I think that on the talent scale, I’d take George Wardlaw over JHF. Id be staggered in that sense if Wardlaw doesn’t have the better career when it’s all said and done .

The trade was still worth it for Port but he isn’t taking the club to the next level. He is nothing more then Ports 3rd best midfielder

He's been better than Rozee & Butters this year it just shows you've watched him fukc all, the whole place is in a holding pattern until Hinkley is sacked anyway.

 

[TheKanga]

He's been better than Rozee & Butters this year it just shows you've watched him fukc all, the whole place is in a holding pattern until Hinkley is sacked anyway.

Doesn't JHF love being coached by Hinkley?

 

[AFDogs]

I reckon he will be the best player in the comp in 2 years time.

 

[JimmyBC]

Doesn't JHF love being coached by Hinkley?

Well they all do apparently but they'll get over it in about 5 minutes flat like all players do.

 

[north_lad]

I’m sorry guys but he is just a bit meh

As it stands I think that on the talent scale, I’d take George Wardlaw over JHF. Id be staggered in that sense if Wardlaw doesn’t have the better career when it’s all said and done .

The trade was still worth it for Port but he isn’t taking the club to the next level. He is nothing more then Ports 3rd best midfielder

Not gotta tempt fate by liking or agreeing with this... But I'm thinking (hoping) it loudly

 

[north_lad]

Speaking with my head I think both teams got the player that suited them so it is what it is

 

[Total Power]

One average game and the haters are out in numbers. JHF has been terrific this season in a pretty average team. Today our midfield sucked. I believe if Hinkley stays on he will be Hinkleyed just like everyone else.

 

[Xtreme]

The trade was still worth it for Port but he isn’t taking the club to the next level. He is nothing more then Ports 3rd best midfielder

JHF is a gun and he (rightfully) should be leading the brownlow medal count by a large margin.

This is the problem with the footy world today, everyone expects players to be guns immediately and perform like they are in their prime......


He's still young and he'll be next Dusty, dominating finals matches in due course.

He's been better than Rozee & Butters this year it just shows you've watched him fukc all, the whole place is in a holding pattern until Hinkley is sacked anyway.

Hinkley is not going to be sacked. He's the best coach available.

 

[Chadwiko]

JHF is a gun and he (rightfully) should be leading the brownlow medal count by a large margin.

According to the bookies, JHF is currently... $81 odds for the Brownlow.

This is behind players like Jordan Dawson ($67) and Sam Walsh ($34).

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Id put JHF at the same level as say Jordan De Goey

2

Jordan De Goey

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.7

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.1

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.7

3star

CL

2.3

4star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

4.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

, whereas I expect Wardlaw to more or less be the next Lachie Neale

9

Lachie Neale

Age

31

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

and in that Brownlow conversation

 

[Xtreme]

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According to the bookies, JHF is currently... $81 odds for the Brownlow.

This is behind players like Jordan Dawson ($67) and Sam Walsh ($34).

Another Kenny master-stroke
We'll all profit when JHF wins the brownlow!!