With respect, contradicting yourself here though aren't you? By the logic of that first bolded bit, we on the outside, shouldn't be staggered by anyone in the top 10 should we?
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With respect, contradicting yourself here though aren't you? By the logic of that first bolded bit, we on the outside, shouldn't be staggered by anyone in the top 10 should we?
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Was there a player on your table this yr?
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No, they generally only do a player at your table for season launch
They put all the players in one area and the sponsors & supporters in another. They ask you not to interact with the players for autographs/photos etc as the players want to enjoy the night as such.
It is fun looking around to see who you can see
Yeah fair enough as it is about them letting their hair down and not being pestered all night.
You've done well to keep the JWM Fork Incident off the back pages of The Worst. A change in profession beckons perhaps?
Yes probably mate, and yes you are right. Club b &F are very much internal club things. Just getting a bit sick of the Lecras banging on here. if we had a half decent midfield some of our forwards would not be under the pressure they sometimes are. And when you consider that we have to get lecras and others to try and fill the void of our average midfield and play roles they probably can't play some of the criticism is a bit rich.
If you want hypocricy most on here think our best players are NN, Priddis, Shuey, Gaff. That is our Midfield!!!!
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No issue with a top 5
5th best that day would be a bit disappointing though
I'd love to get my hands on the votes for all players across all games - it would be intriguing to see how the match committee rate players games. It'd also give supporters a mechanism to see exactly how much the number of games played influences the make up of the top 10
It was interesting that the 150 game "interview" the club showed was basically mcginnity bagging out masten for being short, weak/light, a shit kick at goal and always being caught holding the ball
He's definitely one who needs to provide more and ideally would be the player that the likes of Duggan should be pushing out
Firstly no mention of your conversation with Vozzo although Simpson telling Rawlings not to stuff up is a good indicator that even won't bother with gollum
Any way good that you sense the players are close but I'm interested in what it was that gave you the impression that the mood wasn't a happy one with the season. Certainly Simmo's speech was narky that they didn't meet expectations
I don't get why people have a problem with a top 5
Automatic removal from the board after 9 years seems too short imo. I get that they want to refresh personnel but 9 years can go quickly, players can be there longer. Further the difference between cransberg and his replacement was quite stark and Gibbs in his shirt speech didn't inspire confidence in the same way cransberg did. That policy needs to be reviewed
The end of season Eagle Eye has all the votes for each game Keyser Soze
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I went up to Vozzo with a fork up my sleeve, but got stopped by security
It wasn't really a general impression, it was in your face.
You could tell from Cransberg's speech at the start, to Nizzy to each of the 150 game players to the top 5 winners, that there was an undercurrent of un-happiness with their season. They all mentioned it and you could tell that there is a genuine hunger for further success.
I think that the loss in the first final is eating them up
Maybe you mistook their reaction to the music as unhappiness with the season?
Anyone got a vid of Simmos speech? they have everyone except his?
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I was hoping to see if Lamb was served facing east
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He went to the toilet once and that is south, so to get back to the table is north.
Saw nothing East
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Had an awesome season, and spoke very well after winning the medal. He's had some tough experiences and lessons, and genuinely think he's one of those players that will keep improving for a long time. Seems a bit of a nervous character at times, reflected in how quickly he thinks on-field. It's the only thing keeping him from captaining the side, but I reckon he'd thrive under the responsibility if selected down the line.
Would be happy for Shuey to become captain but i have a feeling Hurn will retain as the players love him. Who knows maybe Hurns it over thinking Shuey might be better? I watched a pre warm up last year in the change rooms before a game and he speaks so differently than what he does when being interviewed.
Sorry to pick on you, but all the B&F result for Lecras has done is further emphasise two things.
1. Lecras is a downhill skier
2. We have terrible depth
Look at how he scores in our losses or away from home:
Rd. 2 loss away to Hawthorn - 0
Rd. 5 loss away to Sydney - 0
Rd. 7 loss away to Geelong - 0
Rd. 9 win away to Port Adelaide - 0
Rd. 11 loss away to bulldogs - 2 (first votes in a loss or away from home)
Rd. 12 loss at home to Adelaide - 0
Rd. 19 loss away to Collingwood - 0
El Final loss to bulldogs - 2
4 votes in 7 losses!! (plus nothing against Port away)
Meanwhile he's scoring 8-12 votes when he win by 60+
Yes, every team needs that player that is the cherry on top (Motlop, Hill etc.), but being that he is one of our most experienced players he should be doing the hard yards when the going gets tough, and he should be experienced enough to perform away from home!!!
Every side has those players though, Lecras has always been that player. And in a side that has never really been the standout side in the comp you will find more of them. Is his best days behind him? Looks like it but he is still panels better than Hill, Cripps etc. He plays because he has to as we have nothing else. How has darling and Kennedy gone in finals, not much better. We have many passengers mate and I agree that the club needs to act on them but it all comes back to that one main problem.....(Midfield)
Midfields are where other positions come into it, without a high level midfield you need super stars in the other positions and we don't have them. That 6 years ago our midfield is pretty much the same as it is now yet for 6 years everyone knows it is average except our coaching staff is a great worry.
Bottom line is Lecras should perform better away from home, but I bet my bottom dollar a large percentage of those games away are when we lose big. He should cop it but so should the engine room which keeps getting the thumbs up. Darling, Kennedy and Lecras cop it for their GF effort and maybe fair enough, but who is really to blame?? NN, Priddis, Shuey, gaff. They are the engine and they got smashed as a collective group. You can't rely on forwards without midfield dominance.
Lecras only finished 1 vote above Cripps, so nothing between them.
Hill also had a relatively poor season with some flashes of good form.
I would have thought some players like Tunbridge, Karpany or even Lamb could have been given a go when we were playing a bunch of rubbish sides.
But I do agree that we don't have players smashing down the door to take his place (which was my 2nd point - crap depth!).
Kennedy & Darling are great in finals (moreso Kennedy) - don't let 2 incidents by Darling cloud your judgement like everyone else!
I do agree the midfield needs to improve, but it's harsh to point out Gaff, Priddis and Shuey - they've just gone back to back top 5 finishes in B&F (Priddis been top 5 for five years in a row I think) and Gaff won our player of the finals (silly award this year). Gaff was also very good in our finals last year and one who could have held his head high after the GF.
Shuey was another standout in our finals and doesn't deserve any criticism for his efforts.
The issue isn't those 3, it's basically everyone else under them - Yeo, Masten, Jetta, Redden, Duggan, Sheed (has an excuse) and Hutchings who were 2nd rate this year and none would get a game at the Dogs or Sydney (maybe Sheed).
I agree with most of what you say, but think it's harsh to say NN, Gaff, Priddis and Shuey are to blame for our 2 final exits...
