Player Watch Jordan De Goey

[sr36]

I think over the course of his career the club has been pretty supportive. Id be disappointed of Jordy can't see this and would once again tell me he is making a big mistake by surrounding himself with people who tell him what he wants to hear rather than telling him what he needs to hear.

Most of those outside Collingwood thought we went way too soft. Most Collingwood supporters thought we did not support him enough. They landed in the middle. People can carry on about how the club should have come out and told the world there was nothing to see here, but like it or not that is no longer the commercial reality of running a football club. While it can be frustrating, its a balancing act trying to please all stakeholders and like it or not we need those stakeholders, especially sponsors. My guess is the sponsors are fed up with Jordy and unfortunately for him even very minor incidents will draw a lot more attention than it would for every other player on our list.

Maybe it is best for Jordy to move on but on balance the club has been very good to him for the 8 years he has been on the list and id say the money he has received far exceeds the performance he has delivered.

I wouldn't assume that him not playing was to do with anger towards the club. That's all jsut been unsubstantiated innuendo. It must have been a pretty harrowing week for a bloke whose initial statement suggests he didn't think he'd done anything wrong.

 

[MyManLynch]

He’s a 6 but he keeps making accusations of negligence against the club that he’s consistently proven to be unable to demonstrate or defend. He’s a unable to meter below -20

I like this one…He’s a zero…will always be a zero.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Maybe not…maybe reduced $$$.
Who knows?

I doubt there’ll be any significant reduction on our offer. Time will tell.

 

[MyManLynch]

I doubt there’ll be any significant reduction on our offer. Time will tell.

I hope not.
Just want him back playing good footy.

 

[Mollythedolly]

The majority of the changes had already taken place under the last Board.

Yep, this. I’d make it “previous Boards” given do better was initiated under Ed and the redevelopment at AIA was locked in under Ed.

 

[sr36]

He’s a 6 but he keeps making accusations of negligence against the club that he’s consistently proven to be unable to demonstrate or defend. He’s a unable to meter below -20

I'd like to make a public apology to bigfooty, it's advertisers and the general public on your behalf and insist on you undergoing behavioural therapy treatment for outrageously and sexistly rating someone like that. You should be really ashamed of your behaviour.

 

[Maggie Greg]

You should get the Albanian mafia to take him out then

That is a silly comment. Brian and Blair would be ashamed of you.

 

[Mollythedolly]

He was fined for being disrespectful to women. Which he wasn’t.

You only have to read these boards to understand that’s a very subjective view. What % of the public need to think he’s disrespected women for it to become an issue for the club? What level is it currently?

 

[ant22]

I wouldn't assume that him not playing was to do with anger towards the club. That's all jsut been unsubstantiated innuendo. It must have been a pretty harrowing week for a bloke whose initial statement suggests he didn't think he'd done anything wrong.

I agree , hence the comment "Id be disappointed if he was". The comment was more in response to those who are suggesting he has every right to be angry with the club.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Oh FFS.

If they were offended or felt belittled by that then they are in for a very hard life regardless of their afflictions. I'm sure the homeless girl has far greater things to worry about.

It doesn’t have to offend to feed a narrative that people can be judged as less because of specific characteristics or traits, some of which they have no capacity to remedy. You only need to work with disadvantaged people to see how they’re already treated all too often. Happy that in a world where I’d hope we’re all striving toward being better, there’s less of that crap.

 

[Seedsfan]

How?

They are employed to play footy. Also demanding action due to his actions towards women when he was stood down to long after he was cleared of any wrongdoing in that matter.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Fair enough to be asked to delete the media, but being offensive to the homeless wasn't at issue. The apologetic statement was a response to the Hun's suggestion of misogyny. It was a statement that validated the Hun's ridiculous front page.

No it didn’t. It diffused it. Big difference.

 

[Seedsfan]

I think over the course of his career the club has been pretty supportive. Id be disappointed of Jordy can't see this and would once again tell me he is making a big mistake by surrounding himself with people who tell him what he wants to hear rather than telling him what he needs to hear.

Most of those outside Collingwood thought we went way too soft. Most Collingwood supporters thought we did not support him enough. They landed in the middle. People can carry on about how the club should have come out and told the world there was nothing to see here, but like it or not that is no longer the commercial reality of running a football club. While it can be frustrating, its a balancing act trying to please all stakeholders and like it or not we need those stakeholders, especially sponsors. My guess is the sponsors are fed up with Jordy and unfortunately for him even very minor incidents will draw a lot more attention than it would for every other player on our list.

Maybe it is best for Jordy to move on but on balance the club has been very good to him for the 8 years he has been on the list and id say the money he has received far exceeds the performance he has delivered.

The media thought we went to soft to justify their outrage. We hung him out to dry. I would love him to stay but I hope if he does leave he goes on to play great footy elsewhere.

 

[Maggie5]

They are employed to play footy. Also demanding action due to his actions towards women when he was stood down to long after he was cleared of any wrongdoing in that matter.

Well that isn't enough for them to feel embarrassed like you think.

 

[MyManLynch]

No it didn’t. It diffused it. Big difference.

But the media are still going with daily attacks…trying to create news out of nothing.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Not arguing that, it's just funny that people are so ready to be offended on behalf of homeless people but won't lift a finger to help them.

How do you know what people do to support homeless people or some other disadvantaged group?

 

[Seedsfan]

Well that isn't enough for them to feel embarrassed like you think.

It’s embarrassing for them. It’s not up to the players what the administration does. Point blank, the administration runs the club the players play and the coaches coach as Mick would say know your role play your role.

 

[Mollythedolly]

I'd love to know if you'd consider it so bad if the article actually began with the supposed news, rather than beginning by telling you you should be offended before telling you what the supposed news was.

"In April, whilst speaking at an AFLW event, Jeff Browne said: "Don't do anything Degoey wouldn't do."

Would you even bother reading the rest of the article?

We all know that’s not the purpose of headlines.

Browne’s actions were dumb. I think it’s interesting that the media have likely been sitting on the story waiting for JDG (or any other Collingwood footballer) to fall foul of public opinion before tabling it.

 

[Maggie5]

It’s embarrassing for them. It’s not up to the players what the administration does. Point blank, the administration runs the club the players play and the coaches coach as Mick would say know your role play your role.

Shame De Goey doesn't follow that.

 

[MagpieJo]

It doesn’t have to offend to feed a narrative that people can be judged as less because of specific characteristics or traits, some of which they have no capacity to remedy. You only need to work with disadvantaged people to see how they’re already treated all too often. Happy that in a world where I’d hope we’re all striving toward being better, there’s less of that crap.

i agree, and the thing with these so called jokes is it breeds familiarity, as if its ok, give an inch people take a mile.
im not poor, my teeth are pretty good, i still have my marbles, pretty good shape for 58, but im 33% deaf.
and all those deaf jokes pointed at me, or shit said when people dont realise im a really good lip reader, they hurt, every time.
for a while around when people didnt understanding my deafness as i speak normally, if they got confused or flustered hubby would say "welcome to my world" and get lots of laughs. Until one day i snapped and said "your world? what do you think its like living in my ****ing world, not being able to understand the conversation, and your giving people an excuse not to make an effort?"
and yes i have a hearing aide, but with nrve deafness they only makes things a lot louder, not clearer, and i married a mumbler!

 

[Mollythedolly]

They are employed to play footy.

So that means they’re not entitled to hold an opinion or express it? Or is it just because they’re women?

 

[Mollythedolly]

But the media are still going with daily attacks…trying to create news out of nothing.

That’s JDG, I was responding to a post about IQ and Ginni tiktoking.

 

[Maggie Greg]

I'd love to know if you'd consider it so bad if the article actually began with the supposed news, rather than beginning by telling you you should be offended before telling you what the supposed news was.

"In April, whilst speaking at an AFLW event, Jeff Browne said: "Don't do anything Degoey wouldn't do."

Would you even bother reading the rest of the article?

Yes, I wasn't told what to think, what he said was stupid, and so early in his Presidency he is really channelling Alan McAlister and his stupid comments.

I expected better but obviously it isnt going to happen.

And if I was De Goey I wouldn't be respecting anything dickhead Browne told me to do or not do.

 

[Seedsfan]

Shame De Goey doesn't follow that.

In what way? Should we support any player of colour trying to use an agenda to white ant the AFLW captain due to the black face photo?

No the club dealt with the matter as they saw fit. You can’t let the tail wag the dog

 

[Seedsfan]

So that means they’re not entitled to hold an opinion or express it? Or is it just because they’re women?

But everyone is entitled to the presumption of innocence and funnily enough in relation to the charge of forcibly touching he was found to do nothing wrong. So maybe if you want to try and force someone else out you would want to have got your facts right.

If convicted then sure present your opinion to the administration. But until then let those investing the matter actually determine what has taken place