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Josh Kennedy vs Tom Hawkins
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Tom Hawkins is 'emerging'?
From what?
From what?
Kennedy will be the better play IMHO. Though his kicking isn't great.
Kennedy is the better player at this stage and will probaly end up being the much better player.
HollyLovesWCE
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Good thread idea.
Gotta be a trick question though. Why does TommaHawk have 10 votes? Pity, they have to be pity votes
Voted JK, obviously.
Gotta be a trick question though. Why does TommaHawk have 10 votes? Pity, they have to be pity votes
Voted JK, obviously.
Kennedy will be an absolute superstar, make no mistake about it.
tin can sam
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Hawkins has done more so far, and is younger.
You'd have to go Hawkins.
You'd have to go Hawkins.
Hahahahahahaha.
tin can sam
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My logic is, I watch football. If you honestly think Hawkins is better and will be better you mustn't watch footy.
tin can sam
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Their stats are similar, and Hawkins is a year younger. Both are very strong overhead, however Hawkins provides greater defensive pressure. My issue is that Kennedy couldn't hold down a spot in a young side without a forward, that was praying it could play it's kids. (Carlton)
As a goalkicker, Kennedy and Hawkins have been on par and Kennedy has taken a bit longer with things like knowing where to run, but in 2009 he had an arguabley better season then Hawkins, and has progressed well getting into the leadership group. Kennedy has impressed me this year and even last year when he got on the park.
I look at Hawkins scope for improvement and I think it's simply greater. He knows where to lead, pushes hard and is doing things the coach asks, while being about 5th or 6th in the pecking order of the Geelong forward line, not to mention he is a fantastic contested mark, better then Kennedy.
At this stage of their careers They are on par, but I think Hawkins will overtake Kennedy in the near future, and have a better career, although not by much.
or maybe I "don't watch much footy"
Hawkins has been the sole key forward in one of the greatest teams of all time who also, more importantly has had the best midfield in the AFL servicing him. Kennedy has been in a bottom 6 side for his entire career with no real quality mids as of yet and has still managed to provide an excellent target. He chases and tackles just as well if not better than Tomahawk and all his other skills are clearly better. Kennedy's reading of the game is far, far superior to Hawkins which is evident through their stats last year in particular where Hawkins was in the Premiership side and still didn't record as good a season as Kennedy. Also his marking ability is probably just about the best in the AFL for any young Key Forward including Buddy, Tippett, Roughead and Hawkins who doesn't even deserved to be mentioned in the same sentence as these blokes and Kennedy himself.
You sir are simply terribly wrong. Any supporter of the other 14 AFL sides who half knows what they are talking about will agree. You've obviously put absolutely no thought into this argument or are that one eyed that its blinded your judgement because there is no way in hell Hawkins is better than Kennedy. I might as well state an argument where I say Fletcher is better than Ablett.
You sir are simply terribly wrong. Any supporter of the other 14 AFL sides who half knows what they are talking about will agree. You've obviously put absolutely no thought into this argument or are that one eyed that its blinded your judgement because there is no way in hell Hawkins is better than Kennedy. I might as well state an argument where I say Fletcher is better than Ablett.
Settle down BB.
Kennedy is the better player at the moment, I'm pretty sure most would agree. I'd be confident of him staying the better player as well, would be good to see him play his first full season next year.
Kennedy is the better player at the moment, I'm pretty sure most would agree. I'd be confident of him staying the better player as well, would be good to see him play his first full season next year.
tin can sam
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You managed to discredit everything you wrote in one line. Impressive.
Although I read the rest, and basically you said "Kennedy is better at everything" yet call me one-eyed??
Takes a new level of stupid to believe that argument.
fpm84
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Tom Hawkins is surrounded by three All-Australian forwards in Cam Mooney, Steve Johnson and Paul Chapman. He's certainly not the number one target. Kennedy is your key tall and LeCras is your key medium/small.
You've never heard of Cameron Mooney? I'd say he's been reasonably important over the last few years.
Back to the argument, I haven't seen enough of Kennedy to form an informed opinion, the brief amount I've seen he looks pretty good.
However, despite Hawkins now universally hailed as the worst key forward Geelong have ever drafted (and apparently the only key forward EVER to be completely finished after 43 games), I'm quietly confident he can continue to improve.
Kennedy is obviously the better player currently.
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So you don't watch our games?
Kennedy is our CHF, not our "key forward target".
Did you keep the definition loose so you could try to bullshit your way out of it if criticised?
He spends alot and I mean alot of his time working his way up the ground to provide a tall marking target or getting his own ball due to the poorness/infrequency of delivery.
He has only played as a key marking target deep in the f50 (FF) in a couple of games (early in the season). This position in our squad has not really been settled and is rotated between a few players.
What seems to have been settled is Kennedy as a CHF whereas Hawkins often plays closer to goals.
In a far worse side Kennedy not only had better proportional impact but better season overall.
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Kennedy CHF in a bad side, yet averages more goals than a FF in a premiership side.
Hmmm . . .
Hmmm . . .
gocats88
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there both good YOUNG forwards. much rather have these two than Lachie hansen, Mith thorp, Scott gumbleton, Ben reid, James sellar, Chris dawes and Jay neagle who have not proven anything at afl yet, maybe even delisted. Very happy with pick 40 or whatever it was for Tom hawkins going to be a good player in the future.
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