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Judd gawn??
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Here we go.. on one hand youre saying we won preierships by paying people under the counter.. and then youre saying we havent been paying them...
So which is it JD???
Have we been paying our players more or underpaying them???
Look youre hard to follow..... youre not very consistant are you Mr Dunne???
Build a bridge, dude.
All this talk about Carlton cheating... old news dude.
Fitzroy cheated to get Haydn Bunton, Essendon cheated throughout the 90's and John Elliott cheated on behalf of Carlton. Cheating in some form or another has gone on for years in every sport- it is time to forget the cheating of Evil Elliott and look ahead to 2008.
by the way, i don't condone cheating - I just think you can only talk about what happened at Carlton in the last 6-7 years so many times until you are going over the same ground over and over again. Bring on 2008.
Tell that to every share holder in the land.
So if I lose on my shares, for eg Telecom, after they have told us that the company is going ok, down the track it fails, how is that dishonest?
JeffDunne
TheBrownDog
I'm sure anyone talking sense is hard for you to follow.
They weren't paid because the agreements were made OUTSIDE the contracts lodged with the AFL.
To pay them, you would have had to declare these payments under future cap's - a but hard when you were already a $1m over the TPP.
As for Brittain, did he or did he not lodge a writ in the Supreme Court for an amount over $300K??
Before you come sliding down that pole with your firemans hat on attemoting to lecture me on corporate governance ...let me explain to you this...
To not be paying your bills and forcing people to accept a settlement because you were trading insolvent is against the law as well as the immoral aspect that it brings which os to force people to accept less than the agreed value of goods and services or they get nothing....
So illegal and immoral...
The StKilda way!!!
Did you pay Malcom Blight his full 2 million by the way???
Just goes to show how history is a constant yes???
JeffDunne
TheBrownDog
And undoubtedly will.
It would be nice if just one of you would debate the issues rather than resorting to the ODN tactic for running around the room screaming 'troll' every time someone challenges with facts the nonsensical clap-trap Carlton fans post here.
JeffDunne
TheBrownDog
Actually it's the John Elliott way.
Unlike Elliott, no director from St Kilda has ever been brought before the courts for doing as you suggest.
Ok so what youre saying is this.....
We got done for cap breaches but the players were never paid the money we were done for.. so in fact we didnt cheat cos those players didnt receive monies ???
Ok... thanks..
Do you even know what the Brittain case ruling was????
Look you should understand stuff before you talk about it????
Where has it been documented that there has been illegal or dishonest dealings at the StK club, can you produce anything, there are reams of docs concerning your clubs dishonest dealings.
Who was charged with that?
Yes but thats what they did... they used the John Elliot business model... as a matter of fact StKilda is a visionary club.. it was using what John Elliott later did in his personal corporate situation for their day to day running of the club...
Ground breakers!!!
If the creditors had not accepted the weak settlement it would have gone before the courts.. but the fact remains ... thats how the club ran itself and its part of the tragic history that is the StKilda footy club.. worst run club and leaST succesful in professional elite sports competitions..
No getting away from that...
On and off the field trash!!
Poor fireman.!!!.. were not playing the slippery pole you know....????
So you agree that StKilda acted honestly.
JeffDunne
TheBrownDog
Um . . . NO
As I have explained to Carlton simpletons time and time again, cheating is the act of cheating. If you cheat but don't win - you still cheated.
FWIW, they were paid outside the cap, it was only the payments in the final year of their contract that they didn't get paid for.
Yeah, Carlton settled for about half what he was owed.Do you even know what the Brittain case ruling was????
The only thing you've said in this thread that remotely makes any sense.
Oh dear, your replies have been reduced to that
What were those companies you owned again?
Its all a timing issue, if they kept taking on creditors knowing full well there was a repayment / solvency issue, then it certainly would not paint them in the best light.
I think this was Elliots problem
JeffDunne
TheBrownDog
We all know that Elliot was prone to dishonest business dealings inside and outside of footy ,hardly a parallel in StKildas case.
Oh dear, your replies have been reduced to that
What were those companies you owned again?
theyre and have been private companies....
Pty/Ltd.. you cant invest.. sorry....
Cos if the creditors wernt settled they would have sued????
Or not....StKilda would have been wound up... which would have saved the football world of the tragedy that is StKilda???
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