Jumper clash fails

[Back One Out]

Thanks pedant. I should have called it “jumper blend fails” so that nobody knew what the hell it was about.

Just sayin'

It gets on my ****

Why do we say there is a "clash" when the actual problem is there is no clash ?

As for what point I’m arguing, I don’t know what you’re talking about.

In your OP you were bagging the AFL for making Richmond switch jumpers in last year's Grand Final, but then you were questioning why there was no switch for the Thursday night game between Richmond and Carlton.

The AFL got it right - the canary yellow in last year's GF made for a better contrast and a better TV spectacle
Absolutely no need for Richmond and Carlton to wear alternate jumpers when they play each other.

 

[Father Jack]

Just sayin'

It gets on my ****

Why do we say there is a "clash" when the actual problem is there is no clash ?



In your OP you were bagging the AFL for making Richmond switch jumpers in last year's Grand Final, but then you were questioning why there was no switch for the Thursday night game between Richmond and Carlton.

The AFL got it right - the canary yellow in last year's GF made for a better contrast and a better TV spectacle
Absolutely no need for Richmond and Carlton to wear alternate jumpers when they play each other.

Richmond and Carlton should always have one team in clash jumpers because both jumpers are essentially black. Not hard to work out. Pan across the ground and you see a mess of black.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Just sayin'

It gets on my ****

Why do we say there is a "clash" when the actual problem is there is no clash ?



In your OP you were bagging the AFL for making Richmond switch jumpers in last year's Grand Final, but then you were questioning why there was no switch for the Thursday night game between Richmond and Carlton.

The AFL got it right - the canary yellow in last year's GF made for a better contrast and a better TV spectacle
Absolutely no need for Richmond and Carlton to wear alternate jumpers when they play each other.

I wasn’t bagging them about the GF at all. I was bagging the inconsistency.

Richmond and Carlton are a major clash - effectively they’re both in black. One should always be in their away strip.

You think Richmond’s away strip made for a better contrast and spectacle against Adelaide, but don’t think the same for Richmond and Carlton?

Ok.

 

[Back One Out]

I wasn’t bagging them about the GF at all. I was bagging the inconsistency.

Richmond and Carlton are a major clash - effectively they’re both in black. One should always be in their away strip.

Yeah, but I'm disagreeing with you and anyone else who thinks there's an inconsistency with the example you provided

The issue is not both teams wearing dark jumpers (black vs navy)
The GF issue was both teams wearing dark jumpers with a splash of yellow



Richmond's yellow provides enough of a contrast with Carlton for it not to be a problem.

Do you think Essendon need to wear their alternate jumper vs Carlton? I don't....

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Yeah, but I'm disagreeing with you and anyone else who thinks there's an inconsistency with the example you provided

The issue is not both teams wearing dark jumpers (black vs navy)
The GF issue was both teams wearing dark jumpers with a splash of yellow



Richmond's yellow provides enough of a contrast with Carlton for it not to be a problem.

Do you think Essendon need to wear their alternate jumper vs Carlton? I don't....

Absolutely. The simplest way is just to take the predominant colour (where possible, some are almost 50/50).

Coll, Carl, Ess and Rich all wear black. They should all wear away strips against each other.

 

[Dazzler9]

Coll, Carl, Ess and Richmond all clash with each other. Dark jumpers with white numbers. Absolute eyesore to watch.

 

[VanDemonxx]

Fremantle vs GWS AFLW 2017

 

[chiwigi]

I think the home vs. away mindset is a big part of what causes the clashes TBH, by limiting the options of what is available.

Home wear whatever the hell they like, they are home.
Away has to wear something that doesn't clash...easy. The AFL make some things so bloody difficult.

 

[branedotorg]

It should really be like the EPL (or any other major sporting league really). Home team chooses their kit of choice, the away team must come up with a suitable clash. None of this light vs dark tripe, none of this blatant favouritism towards the bigger clubs. Man utd wear their abhorrent grey kit when they're away at a small club like bournemouth, so why is it different in the AFL? This organisation is an absolute farce, could be doing so much better than what they are in several areas.

I would have thought the clubs would love the opportunity to sell more kits (guernseys) - although maybe they are worried about unsold deadstock at the end of the season on three kits, not just one.

 

[radiojake]

Fremantle vs GWS AFLW 2017

One of the teams changed shorts at half time, i think

 

[HBF]

I’m going to take a really simple approach and base it on the main colour of the jumper.

Black vs navy blue. It’s a clash.

How about Carlton v Essendon. I don't recall either club ever having to wear a clash jumper.
Based on your logic - black vs navy. Clash.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

A place to post, discuss and celebrate examples of the AFL’s mystifying inability to get this most simple of concepts right.

Tonight, game 1 of the season. After Richmond wore a clash strip against Adelaide in the GF.

Richmond (black) vs Carlton (navy blue which might as well be black).

AFL: no clash.

Yellow stands out.

No clash.

Not saying your thread deosnt have a point but I dont think that game was a good example

 

[Bunk Moreland]

How about Carlton v Essendon. I don't recall either club ever having to wear a clash jumper.
Based on your logic - black vs navy. Clash.

Why do people keep quoting me and saying this?

For about the tenth time - Carl, Ess, Coll and Rich all wear black, all clash and all should wear their clash strip against each other.

 

[HBF]

Why do people keep quoting me and saying this?

For about the tenth time - Carl, Ess, Coll and Rich all wear black, all clash and all should wear their clash strip against each other.

Having watched numerous Carlton games against all 3 clubs, I don't see a problem in any of the games.

 

[Andrew Mc]

Fremantle vs GWS AFLW 2017

That's pretty ****ing stupid.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Fremantle vs GWS AFLW 2017

I remember that.

Cotton On being the AFLW apparel sponsor, did different jumpers for some AFLW clubs to their men's team - e.g. Melbourne wearing a red back for their home uniform. Here GWS wore a white back as their home uniform, which nobody who made decisions regarding jumpers was apparently aware of before round 1.

Apparently nobody told Freo, and nobody thought there might be problems when they assumed that Freo could just wear their white clash uniform for all away games.

A GWS staff member had to drive to their home base to pick up their clash charcoal shorts so after quarter time there'd be some difference in the uniform - that photo is from before they changed at quarter time.

An absolute mess and is the reason why a lot of people say "the world's biggest bush league".

 

[Gibbsy]

Having watched numerous Carlton games against all 3 clubs, I don't see a problem in any of the games.

Say no more

 

[scarecrow2k1]

If we have these jumpers, Richmond V Carlton is an ideal game to wear them. We can argue whether their is a definitive clash or not, but it's an easier viewing experience if Carlton wear their clash, so let's do it.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Say no more

One thing that I think is always skipped over in these debates is the view from side on - all the analysis is of the front and the back of uniforms.

Given the wide view from which we watch general play is on the wing, and the players are generally running toward either end, I think it’s a really neglected aspect.

Look at Rocca on the left of that pic, who is side-on - he might as well be in black from head to toe. To have the opponents in navy is absolute madness.

 

[dean33]

Essendon got told they need a clash jumper because matches need to be “dark versus light”.

We’re not required to wear it against Carlton. Work that out.

Nor against the crows. Crows have red, navy and yellow however they only clash with yellow and black not red and black. Work that one out.

 

[branedotorg]

Say no more

shocking that the only current carlton player in there is wearing prison bars and some extremely shit white guy dreads

 

[KissKiss]

One thing that I think is always skipped over in these debates is the view from side on - all the analysis is of the front and the back of uniforms.

Given the wide view from which we watch general play is on the wing, and the players are generally running toward either end, I think it’s a really neglected aspect.

Look at Rocca on the left of that pic, who is side-on - he might as well be in black from head to toe. To have the opponents in navy is absolute madness.

Yeah I cant believe how many clash jumpers have had things like dark side panels. I really dont get how the AFL can make things so difficult

 

[rippersnipper]

In europe, the home team always wears their home uniform. it's in the rules. it's not a choice. clubs must make a special request to wear anything other than their registered home kit for the season in any of their home games.

in fact, the rules state first and foremost that clubs must wear their home kits in all games. there are clauses after this which regulate the use of alternate strips and this is where it is so much more effective than the AFL. I.e., if home strips are identical, similar or could cause confusion, then the away club must change articles of clothing such as shorts or socks, or wear an alternate strip that avoids this. up until a few seasons ago, there were also rules on the number of times (8 games out of 19 away premier league games in the EPL) a club could wear their alternate (or 3rd strip) during the season.

we may see these clubs were different colours to their club colours in their alternate and 3rd strips, but there's no stuffing around with wearing home strips at home, and home strip is definitely worn in more than 2/3 of games for each club.

I suppose when I said that they are able to choose, I meant choose their home kit at the start of the season. And yes, you're quite right with everything that you've said there.

It irritates me because north have changed their home kit due to the afl continually making them play in white (away?) shorts. It should have been that if north were the home team, they could wear their designated home kit (white with blue stripes and blue shorts) and the away team should have been made to find a suitable kit that didn't clash with it. The afl, though, prefers to see the big teams in their home kits so this never happens/happened. It's just really poor management of the comp. North are away? Wear the white shorts all the time if they must, but they should have never been worn for a home match. Same goes for Geelong. Stupid stuff imo

 

[Ice-Wolf]

It irritates me because north have changed their home kit due to the afl continually making them play in white (away?) shorts.

LMFAO... North Melbourne where the blue shorts were more important than the jumper.

 

[Isaac Cumming No 1]

Small thing and there was no clash of colours, but the Bulldogs looked more like the Demons to me on Sunday. Lots of red.