Australian TV isn't broadcast in 4k by anyone
4k is great, but 1080 is fine
Though if kayo had a 4k stream I would be using.
Anyway, 4k doesn't fix jumper clashes.
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4k is great, but 1080 is fine
Though if kayo had a 4k stream I would be using.
Anyway, 4k doesn't fix jumper clashes.
Not via terrestrial broadcast but 7 could offer it via streaming if they wanted.
I'm sure this was considered by the AFL but the priority of the Lions being in a traditional maroon strip which is highly identifiable with the QLD public won out over the visual distinction/aesthetics issue
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Like seriously who is on which team here
Looking at it for a time you can tell the difference between the lighter and darker red but colours this close are a nightmare if you're scanning the MCG trying to tell 36 very similarly coloured uniforms apart during a passage of play.
cf Newcastle v Hull in 2008, you could tell apart the stripes from the plain grey in a static image but that game was a nightmare
Looking at it for a time you can tell the difference between the lighter and darker red but colours this close are a nightmare if you're scanning the MCG trying to tell 36 very similarly coloured uniforms apart during a passage of play.
cf Newcastle v Hull in 2008, you could tell apart the stripes from the plain grey in a static image but that game was a nightmare
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You need to see an optometrist
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It definitely could have been better (ironically this actual game probably couldn’t have been any better because of the Sydney home team, Brisbane clash options) and I certainly don’t dismiss others issues with it visually but I can’t say I had any issues personally
If you stop to think about it for a moment, this is almost impossible to answer. Because it depends on so many different factors, including someone's level of vision impairment, and the screen they are watching on.
But let's play a hypothetical...
The 2023 Grand Final had around ~5m viewers. Let's assume that people with vision issues are 0.1% of the population.... the actual figure is probably much higher, but let's assume many people get away with glasses to help out. That's still 5,000 viewers. Not a lot really? Except when you put it in context that there is literally no reason whatsoever for the AFL not to resolve the issue other than incompetence or intransigence. That's a lot of people being frustrated purely because of AFL stubbornness.
Your question basically amounts to asking how many people need to be disadvantaged before the AFL should take action. I'm trying to flip it around and ask why does anyone have to miss out when the solution is so simple? This isn't like demanding a building be retrofitted with disability access, which has an actual cost. Teams are literally being asked to wear a different coloured jumper.
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Not even sure brisbane in gold would have looked much different from the swans white in that bright Sun. Best would have been swans white shorts at least
Also strong shadows from the north stand to confuse even more. If anything game should be played earlier not later
Agree with everyone guernsey with contrasting backs and front are an issue . Sydney. GWS St kilda among others
Also strong shadows from the north stand to confuse even more. If anything game should be played earlier not later
Agree with everyone guernsey with contrasting backs and front are an issue . Sydney. GWS St kilda among others
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Brisbane used three different guernseys in the finals. You think they should have a fourth just cos swans were the highest seed?
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They should have a clash jumper(s) that works against all teams
If you go by the fact that the Swans were the highest seed and hence the home team, then it is up to Brisbane not to clash.
I personally think that if a clash can be solved with a simple shorts change, then that should be explored and used. But sadly, the AFL makes it up as we go along.
This isn't new to Brisbane. GWS in the semi wasn't great either. They have 3 colours...Get the Fitzroy bllue 1996 top a run
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Yep.
Brisbane have worn a majority blue or blue/yellow Indigenous guernsey. They're not against it being a majority colour (nor why should they be, it's a club colour).
If maroon, yellow and white clash with a half red/half white home uniform, which Sydney rightfully are allowed to wear, then wear a third uniform that is also a club colour that doesn't clash. It isn't hard.
Consider North home vs Dogs.
Either North wear white shorts for that game, which allows Dogs to wear home uniform with blue shorts (which they have done recently)
Or North insist on wearing their home uniform, forcing Dogs to wear red (which we've done in the past, a third uniform, with our third club colour).
Not hard.
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Your vision doesnt need to be impaired at all.
This type of reasoning is constantly used and it misses the point entirely.
It’s irrelevant. Anybody looking at two uniforms side by side can tell them apart, obviously.
It’s about creating a proper contrast so that the teams are absolutely clear in your peripheral vision.
It makes the viewing experience far better as players and spectators can focus on the play while still knowing exactly where players are positioned ahead of and behind the play. It’s played on a very big oval.
It significantly increases awareness of what is going on. It’s exactly the same reason why high-vis clothing is used in workplaces.
“Why do you need to wear that!? Are people so visually impaired that they can’t see a human being?!”
Of course they can see somebody they’re looking at.
But our range of vision is wide and if we’re focussed on one thing, we won’t generally know exactly what is what in the wider periphery - unless theres a super-visible contrast of colours that jumps out.
Yesterday failed as that striking contrast wasn’t there.
High-vis clothing was introduced for a reason.
Btw, the AFL clearly does not understand the above. It just doesn’t get it and doesn’t have access to anybody who has a modicum of knowledge in this. They clearly do what a lot of people do, just look at a piece of paper or directly at a narrow-focus photo of two players and make a call.
Footy isn’t played on a piece of paper or a screen. It’s played on an enormous oval.
I was of the opinion that the game merited a clash jumper in the lead up to the match.
In the first quarter when play was in the sun I thought the clash was really bad.
As the sky got darker I thought it was not ideal but easily distinguishable.
Still think Brisbane should’ve worn their clash. It was one of the ugliest grand final match ups in memory for mine.
In the first quarter when play was in the sun I thought the clash was really bad.
As the sky got darker I thought it was not ideal but easily distinguishable.
Still think Brisbane should’ve worn their clash. It was one of the ugliest grand final match ups in memory for mine.
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I bang on about it a lot but the starting issue is subjectivity.
Remove that (by making the away team always wear a clash/away jumper) and I’d almost guarantee 90% of the issues go away.
The default position for tradition and other shit is both teams in home jumpers, if that option doesn’t exist I ****ing guarantee clubs and the AFL would make eliminating the clash the priority.
Remove that (by making the away team always wear a clash/away jumper) and I’d almost guarantee 90% of the issues go away.
The default position for tradition and other shit is both teams in home jumpers, if that option doesn’t exist I ****ing guarantee clubs and the AFL would make eliminating the clash the priority.
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See I’m in the ‘do minor tweaks’ to resolve it regardless of who is the home team camp . This would have been swans white shorts
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Hawthorn is mainly light freo dark. That was a bullshit decision
The last time we wore white shorts with our home strip was in the 90s. There’s a reason we stopped doing it: it looked awful. No way should we be forced to wear that combination in a GF.
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I think we can solve two problems in one here
I sent a text to my Brother who was at the game asking about the kits. Response "No issue and I'm up high"
Saw a few mention the camera quality and I think that was the problem on tv.
Saw a few mention the camera quality and I think that was the problem on tv.
It was at its worst in the first qtr or 2 when the sun was bright and it moved between the shadows and light.
The absolute best option is the jumper you posted earlier with white shorts. The best option of what they currently wear was South Melbourne and white shorts. Plus they can’t use the old white is bad, the team surrendered anyway!!!
But Brisbane definitely need to do better.
The day game with the red ball didn't help. You could barely see the ball at times on the backdrop of the red and maroon crowd. At night with a yellow ball would have looked far more aesthetically pleasing (and rated higher)
No, just no to night grand finals. We had one and it sucked.
We had two. And they rated through the roof, including two low drawing Melbourne teams (Melb vs Dogs) rating higher than Coll vs Bris in the day.
About the yellow ball, even during the day match it would have been better yesterday. You could honestly hardly see the footy at times yesterday.
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