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USA Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America
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Sure, the Dems should review the effectiveness of their campaign.
But the whole extravagant spending and fundraising cycle which repeats every election and in between, is bi-partisan, and Republicans are more at fault for initiating the whole thing.
Republican voters / conservative pundits questioning money in politics, and only bringing up the Dems, are absolute hypocrites.
Not that many care, it's just them being sore winners.
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Lol. true or not there is no way Beyonce would confirm it. Especially after the hit she took for not performing.
Beyonce should make a statement herself rather than using family surrogates but she wont bevause that would be her lying directly to her fans.
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The fact that I don't think something is true, or at least question it, because I'm yet to hear of any evidence, whereas you just regurgitate it... yes, that explains that I think more critically than you.
Not that we're just learning this for the first time though.
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So I have researched something and reached a conclusion while you have just sat around waiting to hear something different means you think more critically. Just lol.
Wonder how much MAGA paid for those endorsements.
allegedly Beyonce not paid 10 million.
www.independent.co.uk
We found no record of Harris’ campaign paying Beyoncé, Eminem, Megan Thee Stallion, Lizzo, or their production companies, anything.
We asked the Harris campaign about these claims regarding the endorsements, but we haven’t received a response.
Claims about paid celebrity endorsements have been circulating in the weeks leading up to and following the election. On Nov. 14, rapper Cardi B responded on X to the claim that she was paid for her endorsement of Harris, writing, “I didn’t get paid a dollar.”
The Harris campaign did make two payments totaling $1 million to Harpo Productions Inc., Oprah Winfrey’s production company, on Oct. 15, for “event production.” Winfrey said in an Instagram comment that she was “not paid a dime” and that the payments went toward production fees for her interview with Harris in September. “I did not take any personal fee. However the people who worked on that production needed to be paid. And were. End of story,” Winfrey wrote.
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IMO they were either paid or black mailed with Diddy tapes or something else. They all didnt seem that excited to be there.
2.5 million to oprahs production company to stage a forum seems like Oprah is taking a cut, they could produce it for less than that surely. I thought Oprah would ahve done it for free, but yeh covering production costs, seems fair, but yeh think they made some profit out of the production costs.....unless some of that $$$ ended up getting the other celebrities on the oprah event - Meryll Streep, Chris Rock, Ben Stiller, Jenny from the block etc
Enimen was anti govt /for free speech etc, and he has done a complete 360 backing Harris and her censorship.
Tina Knowles addresses reports that Beyoncé was paid $10m to speak at Harris rally
Superstar delivered an emotional speech at Kamala Harris’s Houston rally
www.independent.co.uk
We found no record of Harris’ campaign paying Beyoncé, Eminem, Megan Thee Stallion, Lizzo, or their production companies, anything.
We asked the Harris campaign about these claims regarding the endorsements, but we haven’t received a response.
Claims about paid celebrity endorsements have been circulating in the weeks leading up to and following the election. On Nov. 14, rapper Cardi B responded on X to the claim that she was paid for her endorsement of Harris, writing, “I didn’t get paid a dollar.”
The Harris campaign did make two payments totaling $1 million to Harpo Productions Inc., Oprah Winfrey’s production company, on Oct. 15, for “event production.” Winfrey said in an Instagram comment that she was “not paid a dime” and that the payments went toward production fees for her interview with Harris in September. “I did not take any personal fee. However the people who worked on that production needed to be paid. And were. End of story,” Winfrey wrote.
No Evidence Harris Campaign Paid for Celebrity Endorsements - FactCheck.org
Vice President Kamala Harris received many celebrity endorsements leading up to the election, including from Beyoncé, Oprah Winfrey, Eminem, Megan Thee Stallion and Lizzo. Social media posts have made the unfounded claim that these celebrities were collectively paid $20 million for their...
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IMO they were either paid or black mailed with Diddy tapes or something else. They all didnt seem that excited to be there.
2.5 million to oprahs production company to stage a forum seems like Oprah is taking a cut, they could produce it for less than that surely. I thought Oprah would ahve done it for free, but yeh covering production costs, seems fair, but yeh think they made some profit out of the production costs.....unless some of that $$$ ended up getting the other celebrities on the oprah event - Meryll Streep, Chris Rock, Ben Stiller, Jenny from the block etc
Enimen was anti govt /for free speech etc, and he has done a complete 360 backing Harris and her censorship.
No evidence, but they must have been paid or blackmailed. Sounds rational.
Eminem endorsed Biden in 2020. Hates Trump.
Really can't imagine being pro freedom of speech and not supporting whoever was running against Trump, given his attempts to overturn the will of the American people at the 2020 election.
I kinda just expect Enimen to hate Trump & Biden & Harris etc.
But yeh, maybe he has changed.
But yeh, maybe he has changed.
agree
Harris is not fit to be mentioned in the company of President Biden or President Trump.
In 12 months time Harris will be forgotten and the US would have moved on and democrats will put their next presidential attempt behind another candidate.
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Does anyone really care if and how much celebs and backers were paid for their endorsement, speech, photograph? It's peanuts next to lobbyist payments to leaders and pollies, unillegal bribery as one may say. Or those stock movements and trades of certain war-related companies just prior to or on the day the Russians invaded Ukraine.
No-one on the conservative side really cares about any celebrity payments. It's just a talking point to distract from their involvement (and where they mostly started the ball rolling) in some of the other issues you mention e.g. lobbying, PACs, revolving doors of politicians and special interest orgs.
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I think legal corruption and insider trading is one platform both dems and reps can agree on.
Well there are some Dems who refuse to take corporate PAC money (which has seen some of them outspent and beaten in primaries), but they are by far the minority. I think there's a couple of principled Republicans in that area as well, or at least they shun certain influential lobby groups.
Sqotty from office works
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Yeah I care.
If she ran a decent campaign instead of putting up celebrities the world MAY have got a decent leader.
But America and the world has got dufus mcdufus in charge.
Poor job,poor advice, poor decisions and poor outcome.
Yes I care and hoping that answers your question
The campaign was a pathetic failure and it’s fair for people invested in Trump not returning to the White House to give an autopsy on where it went wrong. I think the vacuousness of the celebrity strategy is something that will stand out to people, irrespective of the payments or not (although the enormous amount spent for little reward ought to be scrutinised).
That said, I think there was a fundamental misunderstanding of what was driving people to vote. See below:
Instead the focus seemed to be on appealing to Republicans with conservative signifiers such as militarism and how much she wanted to be robbed so that she could shoot a burglar.
Yes, the cost of living, as well as jobs, manufacturing etc should have been the main selling points.
And you're right, there is always a rush to the right to try and win over disaffected Republicans.
But that doesn't mean the campaign was celebrity-centric, well, no more than usual. The only difference between the parties there is that at least from the entertainment industry, there were more celebrities on Harris' side.
Kanye certainly no minor artist though. High profile sportspeople, MMA figures, podcasters, tech bros supported Trump.
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It's a pox on both parties and the entire democratic system.
Perhaps a new revolution is past due.
