USA Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

[King Patty]

Could Harris not have donated 10 million of funds on north carolina rather than give it to Beyonce.
Worrying her lack of oversight on the funds management as well, going overbudget.

 

[Blue1980]

Harris just spent $1.5b, gave $10m to Beyonce for 3 minutes who is a billionaire and $2.5m to Oprah, another billionaire, courted Taylor Swift's and Mark Cuban's endorsements but you suddendly have a thing against billionaires. Just Lol.

I personally don’t think any of them should exist as billionaires.

However it isn’t just because Thiel is a billionaire it’s what his ideology is, he’s stated “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible”.

Now you either a) agree fully b) think it’s taken out of context c) disagree but think it won’t influence Vance or the US govt or d) combination of the above.

 

[Stokey]

I personally don’t think any of them should exist as billionaires.

However it isn’t just because Thiel is a billionaire it’s what his ideology is, he’s stated “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible”.

Now you either a) agree fully b) think it’s taken out of context c) disagree but think it won’t influence Vance or the US govt or d) combination of the above.

What is meant by freedom? I think polling has shown us that people in the US - and it's seeping into the world - can't freely express their opinion and feel they can only do it in the ballot box.

If you cant do this how are you truly free?

 

[faible]

What is meant by freedom? I think polling has shown us that people in the US - and it's seeping into the world - can't freely express their opinion and feel they can only do it in the ballot box.

If you cant do this how are you truly free?

Free speech =/= freedom from consequences.

You're 'free' to roll up and call a black person an n*, they're 'free' to respond.

You're not likely to get a whole lot of sympathy coming your way for whatever the response you experience will be though.

 

[Stokey]

Free speech =/= freedom from consequences.

You're 'free' to roll up and call a black person an n*, they're 'free' to respond.

You're not likely to get a whole lot of sympathy coming your way for whatever the response you experience will be though.

wut?!

 

[faible]

wut?!

The idea that you can't 'freely express your opinions' is a furphy.

You can express them all you like. You can't express them free from other people calling you a flog if you have shitty opinions though.

 

[Bloods86]

What is meant by freedom? I think polling has shown us that people in the US - and it's seeping into the world - can't freely express their opinion and feel they can only do it in the ballot box.

If you cant do this how are you truly free?

Well even if this were true, for starters you probably shouldn't vote or advocate for someone who doesn't even respect the voter and the ballot counting if it goes against him.

 

[Spearman]

Could Harris not have donated 10 million of funds on north carolina rather than give it to Beyonce.
Worrying her lack of oversight on the funds management as well, going overbudget.

I don't know the rules, but they might not be able something like that with campaign donations.

But I agree, it was ridiculous. And I wouldn't be surprised if many Dems in the States would feel the same if they knew.

 

[magpie_marty]

Harris just spent $1.5b, gave $10m to Beyonce for 3 minutes who is a billionaire and $2.5m to Oprah, another billionaire, courted Taylor Swift's and Mark Cuban's endorsements but you suddendly have a thing against billionaires. Just Lol.

What happens to the left over funds from donations from both sides up and down the ticket?
Hopefully it goes to schools or Hospitals?
Not to mention the people that never read the fine print and get charged every month.

 

[Bloods86]

Harris just spent $1.5b, gave $10m to Beyonce for 3 minutes who is a billionaire and $2.5m to Oprah, another billionaire, courted Taylor Swift's and Mark Cuban's endorsements but you suddendly have a thing against billionaires. Just Lol.

Do you have any evidence that the Beyonce payment is real or that Oprah was personally paid (outside of her production company which was used during the campaign)?

Or just another thing you're saying because it sounds good?

 

[Stokey]

Do you have any evidence that the Beyonce payment is real or that Oprah was personally paid (outside of her production company which was used during the campaign)?

Or just another thing you're saying because it sounds good?

It has been widely reported that the Oprah town hall cost $2.5m whether ir went to the production conpany is irrelevant. Could have easily been a campaign donation for spmeone as rich as Oprah. The payment to Beyonce has been widely reported and never denied.

You could do your own research but you wont because the truth is inconvenient. Easiesr to just be indignant in here.

 

[zumahawk]

It has been widely reported that the Oprah town hall cost $2.5m whether ir went to the production conpany is irrelevant. Could have easily been a campaign donation for spmeone as rich as Oprah. The payment to Beyonce has been widely reported and never denied.

You could do your own research but you wont because the truth is inconvenient. Easiesr to just be indignant in here.

I'm sure Oprah etc cost Harris some money. I doubt anyone's debating that. The end.

Now you mention truth and support the Republicans. Hmmmm. All they do is lie.

 

[magpie_marty]

Harris just spent $1.5b, gave $10m to Beyonce for 3 minutes who is a billionaire and $2.5m to Oprah, another billionaire, courted Taylor Swift's and Mark Cuban's endorsements but you suddendly have a thing against billionaires. Just Lol.

At least they got paid compared to Trump not paying counties for hosting his rallies over that last 8 years,
Rather Ironic actually.

 

[carltonchelsea]

Even by SRP standards, this last page has been a real lowlight.

Look whom rocked up, it’s always the same when they do, pages of poor spelling, answering questions with absurdist snide strawman non sequitur questions.
The dullest dotard on this board!

 

[zumahawk]

Interesting MAGA are so against celebrities that support liberal causes (which are some of the most iconic artists and actors of the last 50 years I got to say) but when they get Elon as part of the admin or Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock etc they turn a blind eye. 100% agree that celebrity endorsements are overrated but if it was the other way around they wouldn't care.

 

[Chief]

the Oprah town hall cost $2.5m whether ir went to the production conpany is irrelevant.

Ask yourself: if true, is that a large number for an event that size?

Do you ask this of, say, Trump spending money on Hulk Hogan.

 

[Stokey]

Ask yourself: if true, is that a large number for an event that size?

Do you ask this of, say, Trump spending money on Hulk Hogan.

Is Hulk Hogan a billionaire?

I don't care who gets paid but over $1b was spent on a failed campaign that it is now it debt so questions should be asked where the money went and how wisely it was spent.

 

[Chief]

but over $1b was spent on a failed campaign

It's all obscene. How much did Trump spend on 2020?

 

[Chief]

Is Hulk Hogan a billionaire?

He's got shit loads of money.

No doubt this means you disagree with billionaires accepting money from politicians?

 

[zumahawk]

Is Hulk Hogan a billionaire?

I don't care who gets paid but over $1b was spent on a failed campaign that it is now it debt so questions should be asked where the money went and how wisely it was spent.

Are there concrete figures on the sums of money paid to Beyonce Oprah and co? Obviously wasn't spent wisely enough but in the end who cares. I expect you to be fact checking Trump's spending habits now also.

 

[Stokey]

It's all obscene. How much did Trump spend on 2020?

Trump $710m v Biden $1.05b

 

[Chief]

Trump $710m v Biden $1.05b

$710 million!

That's just as obscene.

 

[Stokey]

He's got shit loads of money.

No doubt this means you disagree with billionaires accepting money from politicians?

I'm more questioning the fiscal responsibility of the campaign. You talk about Trump being a grifter ad nauseum but you appear to have no issue with people, including billionaires, grifting the Harris campaign.

But we can agree that it all obscene.

 

[Chief]

I'm more questioning the fiscal responsibility of the campaign. You talk about Trump being a grifter ad nauseum but you appear to have no issue with people, including billionaires, grifting the Harris campaign.

Grifting? Interesting. Going off the description here - I haven't looked at it at all - but it sounds like a production company did a job. I can't say if it was a rip off or not. I don't know how many people were involved or how much work went in to it. Or even how much money was actually paid.

From what I recall, they all audit their campaigns. I am sure anyone with an axe to grind will go through the numbers closely.

But we can agree that it all obscene.

 

[Bloods86]

It has been widely reported that the Oprah town hall cost $2.5m whether ir went to the production conpany is irrelevant. Could have easily been a campaign donation for spmeone as rich as Oprah. The payment to Beyonce has been widely reported and never denied.

You could do your own research but you wont because the truth is inconvenient. Easiesr to just be indignant in here.

I mean I've looked at several fact checkers, and Beyonce's family said it was a lie.

What is being spread around conservative online media and talking heads doesn't really count to me as research but ok.