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So simple your mate couldn't even do it

I think it's looking increasingly like it would be a Trump Presidency in name only if he wins and that we'll see people like Bannon, Thiel, Musk and Vance pulling most of the strings which with the backing of the SC is even more horrifying.
 
Are you saying you don't have an ideological bent?
Not at all. But I at least try to acknowledge the weaknesses of Harris - refusing to do anything about the genocide in Gaza, mainly.
 
Not at all. But I at least try to acknowledge the weaknesses of Harris - refusing to do anything about the genocide in Gaza, mainly.
I see that more as an inherent weakness in US politics where both parties are beholden to Zionist funding/influence.
 

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No you're judging his character. I'm judging his Presidency.

1. Publicly sided with his ol' buddy Vlad over his own Intelligence community. Humiliated the whole country. Borderline treason.
2. Repeatedly tried, and several times succeeded in politicizing the DoJ.
3. Repeatedly fired or forced out any Cabinet member or staffer that tried to rein in his worst tendencies.
4. Fawned over dictators because they got to do stuff his stupid system of government prevented him from doing.
5. Tried to wish away the COVID pandemic... it will disappear, like a miracle.
6. Used the daily COVID briefings to hog the spotlight and inflict his stupidity directly onto the US population. Bleach, Ivermectin, shining ultraviolet light directly into the body... etc.
7. Packed the SC with lying scumbags and religious nuts to overturn Roe Vs. Wade.
8. Fired the Director of the FBI during an ongoing investigation because he would not bend the knee and pledge loyalty to his Orange POTUS.
9. Failed to build the wall. Failed to get Mexico to pay for the bit he did.
10. Promised an infrastructure plan.... in two weeks.... very soon.
11. Promised a comprehensive Health Care Plan... in two weeks.... very soon.
12. Encouraged White Nationalists, militia kooks, and garden variety racists to come out of hiding and proclaim their hate in broad daylight.
13. Gassed protesters so that he could get a photo-op across from the WH (holding a Bible upside down).
14. Lie. Every day, even about stuff he didn't need to lie about. An absolute firehose of lies.
15 Made the COVID situation much worse by undercutting the CDC at every turn. Refusing to wear a mask because it would smear his make-up, holding parties and events with no social distancing (bye-bye Herman Cain).
16. Caught Covid because (see 15 above) he was a moron. Got cutting edge care not available to the general public. Came back to the WH on Air Force 2 and posed like Mussolini on the portico. What an incredible PoS.
17. Convinced millions that vaccines were dangerous and some sort of covert government operation.
18. Threw the Afghan government under the bus so hard that it shattered on impact. Dealt directly with the Taliban (even invited them to Camp ****ing David). Criminal. Released thousands of imprisoned Taliban warriors for a handful of return prisoners.
19. Committed the US armed forces to evacuating Afghanistan in May of 2021 without bothering to notify the US armed forces. Criminal. Biden managed to get it pushed back to August, but still a shitshow.
20. He appointed Kash Patel to the National Security Council, acting Director of National Intelligence, and Chief of Staff of the acting US Secretary of Defense. Kash ****ing Patel.
21. Lost the 2020 election fair and square. Lied that he had won. STILL lying that he won. Thoroughly divided the nation to satisfy his offended ego. What a PoS.
22. Tried hard to overturn the results of the 2020 election, called swing state election officials to the WH to browbeat them into invalidating results, called the Georgia Secretary of State and threatened him Mafia style to "recalculate" or else he would be vulnerable to the full weight of the DoJ coming down on him.
23. Inflicted the clown-car legal team of Guliani et al on the nation. I think they went 63-1.
24. Called a mob to the Capital on J6 and sent them to stop the counting of electoral votes.
25. Greenlighted an attempt to overthrow the will of the people with a scheme to present fake electors that Pence and the seditious Republican Congress critters could use as an excuse to send the election to the state legislatures.
26. Fired Janet Yellen and pressuring of Jerome Powell to not raise interest rates.
27. Pulled out of Iran nuclear deal
 
Trump's full answer:

“Well, I would do that, and we’re sitting down, and I was, somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka was so impactful on that issue. It’s a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about, that, because, look, child care is child care is. It’s, couldn’t, you know, there’s something, you have to have it. In this country you have to have it.”

“But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to — but they’ll get used to it very quickly – and it’s not gonna stop them from doing business with us, but they’ll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we’re talking about, including child care, that it’s going to take care."

“We’re gonna have — I, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country, because I have to stay with child care. I want to stay with child care, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I’m talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just, that I just told you about."

“We’re gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, and as much as child care is talked about as being expensive, it’s relatively speaking not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we’ll be taking in. We’re going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people, and then we’ll worry about the rest of the world. Let’s help other people. But we’re going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It’s about Make America Great Again. We have to do it because right now we’re a failing nation, so we’ll take care of it.”

this answer will go down as the most quoted, in its entirety, word salad reply in history :winkv1:
 
1. Publicly sided with his ol' buddy Vlad over his own Intelligence community. Humiliated the whole country. Borderline treason.
2. Repeatedly tried, and several times succeeded in politicizing the DoJ.
3. Repeatedly fired or forced out any Cabinet member or staffer that tried to rein in his worst tendencies.
4. Fawned over dictators because they got to do stuff his stupid system of government prevented him from doing.
5. Tried to wish away the COVID pandemic... it will disappear, like a miracle.
6. Used the daily COVID briefings to hog the spotlight and inflict his stupidity directly onto the US population. Bleach, Ivermectin, shining ultraviolet light directly into the body... etc.
7. Packed the SC with lying scumbags and religious nuts to overturn Roe Vs. Wade.
8. Fired the Director of the FBI during an ongoing investigation because he would not bend the knee and pledge loyalty to his Orange POTUS.
9. Failed to build the wall. Failed to get Mexico to pay for the bit he did.
10. Promised an infrastructure plan.... in two weeks.... very soon.
11. Promised a comprehensive Health Care Plan... in two weeks.... very soon.
12. Encouraged White Nationalists, militia kooks, and garden variety racists to come out of hiding and proclaim their hate in broad daylight.
13. Gassed protesters so that he could get a photo-op across from the WH (holding a Bible upside down).
14. Lie. Every day, even about stuff he didn't need to lie about. An absolute firehose of lies.
15 Made the COVID situation much worse by undercutting the CDC at every turn. Refusing to wear a mask because it would smear his make-up, holding parties and events with no social distancing (bye-bye Herman Cain).
16. Caught Covid because (see 15 above) he was a moron. Got cutting edge care not available to the general public. Came back to the WH on Air Force 2 and posed like Mussolini on the portico. What an incredible PoS.
17. Convinced millions that vaccines were dangerous and some sort of covert government operation.
18. Threw the Afghan government under the bus so hard that it shattered on impact. Dealt directly with the Taliban (even invited them to Camp ****ing David). Criminal. Released thousands of imprisoned Taliban warriors for a handful of return prisoners.
19. Committed the US armed forces to evacuating Afghanistan in May of 2021 without bothering to notify the US armed forces. Criminal. Biden managed to get it pushed back to August, but still a shitshow.
20. He appointed Kash Patel to the National Security Council, acting Director of National Intelligence, and Chief of Staff of the acting US Secretary of Defense. Kash ****ing Patel.
21. Lost the 2020 election fair and square. Lied that he had won. STILL lying that he won. Thoroughly divided the nation to satisfy his offended ego. What a PoS.
22. Tried hard to overturn the results of the 2020 election, called swing state election officials to the WH to browbeat them into invalidating results, called the Georgia Secretary of State and threatened him Mafia style to "recalculate" or else he would be vulnerable to the full weight of the DoJ coming down on him.
23. Inflicted the clown-car legal team of Guliani et al on the nation. I think they went 63-1.
24. Called a mob to the Capital on J6 and sent them to stop the counting of electoral votes.
25. Greenlighted an attempt to overthrow the will of the people with a scheme to present fake electors that Pence and the seditious Republican Congress critters could use as an excuse to send the election to the state legislatures.
26. Fired Janet Yellen and pressuring of Jerome Powell to not raise interest rates.
27. Pulled out of Iran nuclear deal
Way too many facts for Stokey
 
1. Publicly sided with his ol' buddy Vlad over his own Intelligence community. Humiliated the whole country. Borderline treason.
2. Repeatedly tried, and several times succeeded in politicizing the DoJ.
3. Repeatedly fired or forced out any Cabinet member or staffer that tried to rein in his worst tendencies.
4. Fawned over dictators because they got to do stuff his stupid system of government prevented him from doing.
5. Tried to wish away the COVID pandemic... it will disappear, like a miracle.
6. Used the daily COVID briefings to hog the spotlight and inflict his stupidity directly onto the US population. Bleach, Ivermectin, shining ultraviolet light directly into the body... etc.
7. Packed the SC with lying scumbags and religious nuts to overturn Roe Vs. Wade.
8. Fired the Director of the FBI during an ongoing investigation because he would not bend the knee and pledge loyalty to his Orange POTUS.
9. Failed to build the wall. Failed to get Mexico to pay for the bit he did.
10. Promised an infrastructure plan.... in two weeks.... very soon.
11. Promised a comprehensive Health Care Plan... in two weeks.... very soon.
12. Encouraged White Nationalists, militia kooks, and garden variety racists to come out of hiding and proclaim their hate in broad daylight.
13. Gassed protesters so that he could get a photo-op across from the WH (holding a Bible upside down).
14. Lie. Every day, even about stuff he didn't need to lie about. An absolute firehose of lies.
15 Made the COVID situation much worse by undercutting the CDC at every turn. Refusing to wear a mask because it would smear his make-up, holding parties and events with no social distancing (bye-bye Herman Cain).
16. Caught Covid because (see 15 above) he was a moron. Got cutting edge care not available to the general public. Came back to the WH on Air Force 2 and posed like Mussolini on the portico. What an incredible PoS.
17. Convinced millions that vaccines were dangerous and some sort of covert government operation.
18. Threw the Afghan government under the bus so hard that it shattered on impact. Dealt directly with the Taliban (even invited them to Camp ****ing David). Criminal. Released thousands of imprisoned Taliban warriors for a handful of return prisoners.
19. Committed the US armed forces to evacuating Afghanistan in May of 2021 without bothering to notify the US armed forces. Criminal. Biden managed to get it pushed back to August, but still a shitshow.
20. He appointed Kash Patel to the National Security Council, acting Director of National Intelligence, and Chief of Staff of the acting US Secretary of Defense. Kash ****ing Patel.
21. Lost the 2020 election fair and square. Lied that he had won. STILL lying that he won. Thoroughly divided the nation to satisfy his offended ego. What a PoS.
22. Tried hard to overturn the results of the 2020 election, called swing state election officials to the WH to browbeat them into invalidating results, called the Georgia Secretary of State and threatened him Mafia style to "recalculate" or else he would be vulnerable to the full weight of the DoJ coming down on him.
23. Inflicted the clown-car legal team of Guliani et al on the nation. I think they went 63-1.
24. Called a mob to the Capital on J6 and sent them to stop the counting of electoral votes.
25. Greenlighted an attempt to overthrow the will of the people with a scheme to present fake electors that Pence and the seditious Republican Congress critters could use as an excuse to send the election to the state legislatures.
26. Fired Janet Yellen and pressuring of Jerome Powell to not raise interest rates.
27. Pulled out of Iran nuclear deal
Fake electors scheme, pressured his DOJ Acting AG and deputy to allege election fraud without evidence to pressure states, VP and congress to give him the win, and when refused, asked about replacing them (both Republicans) with Yes Men until it was made clear there would be mass resignations

The SC justices he appointed are incredibly pro-corporate, anti-worker, so much for looking out for the little guy

Massive permanent handouts to corporations via tax cuts, which often resulted in stock buybacks and bigger profits, instead of increased economic growth, with only temporary relief for lower/middle class

Appointed Mick Mulvaney, who had called for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's elimination, as it's Director. Similar sabotage with EPA and Education appointments. Lower/middle class to be further taken advantage of, made sicker and less informed.
 
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this answer will go down as the most quoted, in its entirety, word salad reply in history :winkv1:
Kamala's facial expressions while Trump was doing his "In Springfield... " speech...
 
1. Publicly sided with his ol' buddy Vlad over his own Intelligence community. Humiliated the whole country. Borderline treason.
2. Repeatedly tried, and several times succeeded in politicizing the DoJ.
3. Repeatedly fired or forced out any Cabinet member or staffer that tried to rein in his worst tendencies.
4. Fawned over dictators because they got to do stuff his stupid system of government prevented him from doing.
5. Tried to wish away the COVID pandemic... it will disappear, like a miracle.
6. Used the daily COVID briefings to hog the spotlight and inflict his stupidity directly onto the US population. Bleach, Ivermectin, shining ultraviolet light directly into the body... etc.
7. Packed the SC with lying scumbags and religious nuts to overturn Roe Vs. Wade.
8. Fired the Director of the FBI during an ongoing investigation because he would not bend the knee and pledge loyalty to his Orange POTUS.
9. Failed to build the wall. Failed to get Mexico to pay for the bit he did.
10. Promised an infrastructure plan.... in two weeks.... very soon.
11. Promised a comprehensive Health Care Plan... in two weeks.... very soon.
12. Encouraged White Nationalists, militia kooks, and garden variety racists to come out of hiding and proclaim their hate in broad daylight.
13. Gassed protesters so that he could get a photo-op across from the WH (holding a Bible upside down).
14. Lie. Every day, even about stuff he didn't need to lie about. An absolute firehose of lies.
15 Made the COVID situation much worse by undercutting the CDC at every turn. Refusing to wear a mask because it would smear his make-up, holding parties and events with no social distancing (bye-bye Herman Cain).
16. Caught Covid because (see 15 above) he was a moron. Got cutting edge care not available to the general public. Came back to the WH on Air Force 2 and posed like Mussolini on the portico. What an incredible PoS.
17. Convinced millions that vaccines were dangerous and some sort of covert government operation.
18. Threw the Afghan government under the bus so hard that it shattered on impact. Dealt directly with the Taliban (even invited them to Camp ****ing David). Criminal. Released thousands of imprisoned Taliban warriors for a handful of return prisoners.
19. Committed the US armed forces to evacuating Afghanistan in May of 2021 without bothering to notify the US armed forces. Criminal. Biden managed to get it pushed back to August, but still a shitshow.
20. He appointed Kash Patel to the National Security Council, acting Director of National Intelligence, and Chief of Staff of the acting US Secretary of Defense. Kash ****ing Patel.
21. Lost the 2020 election fair and square. Lied that he had won. STILL lying that he won. Thoroughly divided the nation to satisfy his offended ego. What a PoS.
22. Tried hard to overturn the results of the 2020 election, called swing state election officials to the WH to browbeat them into invalidating results, called the Georgia Secretary of State and threatened him Mafia style to "recalculate" or else he would be vulnerable to the full weight of the DoJ coming down on him.
23. Inflicted the clown-car legal team of Guliani et al on the nation. I think they went 63-1.
24. Called a mob to the Capital on J6 and sent them to stop the counting of electoral votes.
25. Greenlighted an attempt to overthrow the will of the people with a scheme to present fake electors that Pence and the seditious Republican Congress critters could use as an excuse to send the election to the state legislatures.
26. Fired Janet Yellen and pressuring of Jerome Powell to not raise interest rates.
27. Pulled out of Iran nuclear deal
This was just before trump went in to hospital . He was likely the super spreader at the announcement .
 
I think it's looking increasingly like it would be a Trump Presidency in name only if he wins and that we'll see people like Bannon, Thiel, Musk and Vance pulling most of the strings which with the backing of the SC is even more horrifying.

Sounds similar to the Biden administration tbf.
 

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1. Publicly sided with his ol' buddy Vlad over his own Intelligence community. Humiliated the whole country. Borderline treason.
2. Repeatedly tried, and several times succeeded in politicizing the DoJ.
3. Repeatedly fired or forced out any Cabinet member or staffer that tried to rein in his worst tendencies.
4. Fawned over dictators because they got to do stuff his stupid system of government prevented him from doing.
5. Tried to wish away the COVID pandemic... it will disappear, like a miracle.
6. Used the daily COVID briefings to hog the spotlight and inflict his stupidity directly onto the US population. Bleach, Ivermectin, shining ultraviolet light directly into the body... etc.
7. Packed the SC with lying scumbags and religious nuts to overturn Roe Vs. Wade.
8. Fired the Director of the FBI during an ongoing investigation because he would not bend the knee and pledge loyalty to his Orange POTUS.
9. Failed to build the wall. Failed to get Mexico to pay for the bit he did.
10. Promised an infrastructure plan.... in two weeks.... very soon.
11. Promised a comprehensive Health Care Plan... in two weeks.... very soon.
12. Encouraged White Nationalists, militia kooks, and garden variety racists to come out of hiding and proclaim their hate in broad daylight.
13. Gassed protesters so that he could get a photo-op across from the WH (holding a Bible upside down).
14. Lie. Every day, even about stuff he didn't need to lie about. An absolute firehose of lies.
15 Made the COVID situation much worse by undercutting the CDC at every turn. Refusing to wear a mask because it would smear his make-up, holding parties and events with no social distancing (bye-bye Herman Cain).
16. Caught Covid because (see 15 above) he was a moron. Got cutting edge care not available to the general public. Came back to the WH on Air Force 2 and posed like Mussolini on the portico. What an incredible PoS.
17. Convinced millions that vaccines were dangerous and some sort of covert government operation.
18. Threw the Afghan government under the bus so hard that it shattered on impact. Dealt directly with the Taliban (even invited them to Camp ****ing David). Criminal. Released thousands of imprisoned Taliban warriors for a handful of return prisoners.
19. Committed the US armed forces to evacuating Afghanistan in May of 2021 without bothering to notify the US armed forces. Criminal. Biden managed to get it pushed back to August, but still a shitshow.
20. He appointed Kash Patel to the National Security Council, acting Director of National Intelligence, and Chief of Staff of the acting US Secretary of Defense. Kash ****ing Patel.
21. Lost the 2020 election fair and square. Lied that he had won. STILL lying that he won. Thoroughly divided the nation to satisfy his offended ego. What a PoS.
22. Tried hard to overturn the results of the 2020 election, called swing state election officials to the WH to browbeat them into invalidating results, called the Georgia Secretary of State and threatened him Mafia style to "recalculate" or else he would be vulnerable to the full weight of the DoJ coming down on him.
23. Inflicted the clown-car legal team of Guliani et al on the nation. I think they went 63-1.
24. Called a mob to the Capital on J6 and sent them to stop the counting of electoral votes.
25. Greenlighted an attempt to overthrow the will of the people with a scheme to present fake electors that Pence and the seditious Republican Congress critters could use as an excuse to send the election to the state legislatures.
26. Fired Janet Yellen and pressuring of Jerome Powell to not raise interest rates.
27. Pulled out of Iran nuclear deal
Just checking.? This is 27 reasons to vote
for Trump?
 
Who's pulling the strings behind Biden do you think?

There are numerous powerful democrats who are no doubt wielding their power, however Obama, and the Clintons still have significant influence in the white house.

That said, i think most leaders of government are often surrounded by people who dictate a lot of policy decisions.
 
Fake electors scheme, pressured his DOJ Acting AG and deputy to allege election fraud without evidence to pressure states, VP and congress to give him the win, and when refused, asked about replacing them (both Republicans) with Yes Men until it was made clear there would be mass resignations

The SC justices he appointed are incredibly pro-corporate, anti-worker, so much for looking out for the little guy

Massive permanent handouts to corporations via tax cuts, which often resulted in stock buybacks and bigger profits, instead of increased economic growth, with only temporary relief for lower/middle class

Appointed Mick Mulvaney, who had called for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's elimination, as it's Director. Similar sabotage with EPA and Education appointments. Lower/middle class to be further taken advantage of, made sicker and less informed.
I know, give yourself another minute and you can remember five things... :confusedv1: It was really that much of a shit show.
 
There are numerous powerful democrats who are no doubt wielding their power, however Obama, and the Clintons still have significant influence in the white house.

That said, i think most leaders of government are often surrounded by people who dictate a lot of policy decisions.
That's why the best leaders know how to pick good people around them. If anything, that can be the secret sauce. Professional, intelligent, and competent advisors are a must even for the wonkiest leader.
 
There are numerous powerful democrats who are no doubt wielding their power, however Obama, and the Clintons still have significant influence in the white house.

That said, i think most leaders of government are often surrounded by people who dictate a lot of policy decisions.
The difference is probably that previous Democratic leaders see something to support and so stay involved.

Many previous Republican leaders, including his own VP, for all their faults, still have some democratic principles and requisites for temperament, so want nothing to do with Trump.
 

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