KB- “Sheeds wants the Richmond job”

[Bazzar]

According to KB, Sheeds is ultra refreshed and really wants the coaching job with us. This throws more possibilities up with Bucks apparently being favoured for the Roos. Surely he has to be the best credentialed to get us out of our losing cultural crap, and while he`s there, go grab Jimmy H as his prime assistant and Cambo, Jade and McRae the only other current ones kept. I know everyone goes on about a young mans game, but the closer it gets to the date the more excited I get with the prospect of Sheeds at the helm.

KB also said he would go back and do what ever Sheeds wanted him to do if he did get the job.

 

[CoggaRules]

IMO, would be the wisest and smartest of moves by the club considering that they cannot afford another TWesque **** up.
Its all about setting us up for the future and that involves stripping the dead paint away and putting on the sealer and an undercoat and then finding out the right person to put on the gloss.

 

[eays]

Sheeds should definately be top of our list in my opinion ... all this "young mans game" is absolute rubbish ... the guy is arguably the greatest coach of all time, he wants the job, is refreshed and ready for it. He is exactly the type of person who can rattle the cages at RFC and instil a new culture. He can make the hard decisions, and get the best out of players.

In terms of long term thinking, let Rawlings, Campbell and Hirdy be his assistants and groom on of them to take over.

Sheeds on a 2 year contract and then more than likely the best of his assistants to take over when the list is absolutely ready to take us to success.

 

[Wallaby]

I'd have him - 3rd choice behind Matthews, Williams (missed!), but before Malthouse.

 

[thecotch]

No thanks sheeds.

Where was he when opportunities were there to come coach us in the past? I'll tell u. He was using the RFC as a bargaining tool in order to bend essendon over a barrel every time his contract was up for renewal. In my opinion, if sheeds loved the club as much as he supposedly says he does he would have come to us at his peak, not now when he's washed up and has no coaching gig.

We need fresh minds in the joint ala knights at essendon. Im sick of us being used as a bridesmaid.

 

[thecotch]

Sheeds should definately be top of our list in my opinion ... all this "young mans game" is absolute rubbish ... the guy is arguably the greatest coach of all time, he wants the job, is refreshed and ready for it. He is exactly the type of person who can rattle the cages at RFC and instil a new culture. He can make the hard decisions, and get the best out of players.

In terms of long term thinking, let Rawlings, Campbell and Hirdy be his assistants and groom on of them to take over.

Sheeds on a 2 year contract and then more than likely the best of his assistants to take over when the list is absolutely ready to take us to success.

If Hirdy became an assistant with a view to take over then I'd warm to having sheeds in for a year or two, but not long term.

 

[Barnzy]

NO WAY!

Sheedy is well past it. He's good to have around the club to suck in his knowledge here and there but able to handle the rigours of coaching Richmond. 24/7 job with constant media scrutiny and pressure? I don't think so.

We would be lucky if he is still around by the next time we make finals. Thanks but no thanks, KB you goose.

Gotta love the old Richmond mentality. Any hope whatsoever is positive, right? Tommorow it will be Hardwick that will lead us to glory, then Malthouse?

You all will be jumping on Jayden Post, saying his future is so bright only to sink the boots and be calling for his head after a couple of bad games.

 

[krisholio14]

No thanks sheeds.

Where was he when opportunities were there to come coach us in the past? I'll tell u. He was using the RFC as a bargaining tool in order to bend essendon over a barrel every time his contract was up for renewal. In my opinion, if sheeds loved the club as much as he supposedly says he does he would have come to us at his peak, not now when he's washed up and has no coaching gig.

We need fresh minds in the joint ala knights at essendon. Im sick of us being used as a bridesmaid.

Yeah but your club doesn't just need work on field, it could use some work off the field as well, and Kevin Sheedy brings plenty ability to both to the table.

I see it as a Ron Barassi at Sydney type scenario.

 

[deliberate!!]

No thanks sheeds.

Where was he when opportunities were there to come coach us in the past? I'll tell u. He was using the RFC as a bargaining tool in order to bend essendon over a barrel every time his contract was up for renewal. In my opinion, if sheeds loved the club as much as he supposedly says he does he would have come to us at his peak, not now when he's washed up and has no coaching gig.

We need fresh minds in the joint ala knights at essendon. Im sick of us being used as a bridesmaid.

Well said.

Welcome to the "Kevin Sheedy Retirement Fund"....opps....sorry, the "RFC 2010 Coaching" position.

 

[Bazzar]

Sheedy is well past it.

In what way? are you referring to coaching

 

[a_fighting_fury]

Hmm, not sold on Sheedy as coach. Just take a look at how Knights has transformed the Bombers since he took over from Sheeds, somehow I doubt they'd be doing as well if he'd stayed on.

Still, I'd like to see Sheeds stay and help the club in some capacity but maybe not as senior coach.

 

[bluey49]

Richmond could do worse than give Sheedy a two year gig:
The bloke can coach .
He brings in members and holds on to those thinking of ripping theirs up by selling hope.
In conjunction with a massive recruit a la a Jonathan Brown type next year he would bring a lot of excitement around the place .
The bloke has a massive network of successful football people to draw from .
I acknowledge it is a risk but I reckon the Tigers can't afford to go with an untried coach just yet. Let Sheedy put the groundwork in and then build off his foundations.
There's my two bob's worth.

 

[Barnzy]

In what way? are you referring to coaching

Age, modern times, modern coaching. Don't think he would have it in him to coach a team anymore, 24/7 job nowadays. Don't want him.

 

[Bazzar]

Would a young inexperienced coach be mentally tough enough to cope with a club like Richmond?

We have a massive cultural problem and I don’t see Hardwick, Buckley or any other young inexperienced person being able to change that. Wallace bagged our culture big time, Frawley (apart from once) wont go back to the club, Walls hates us and wont go back, the Geish wont go back. Say what you want about them being spuds and good riddance, but the fact is they have all been victims of our distorted power based culture. We need someone with giant kahunas for a few years to turn that around and then hand the reigns to “the new breed” This should be seen as a short term solution to a very long term problem. We have to change. It’s that simple

 

[Bazzar]

Age, modern times, modern coaching. Don't think he would have it in him to coach a team anymore, 24/7 job nowadays.

Thats not a legitamate answer. Modern times? Modern coaching? and to think he wouldnt have it in him to coach a team anymore it the complete opposite of the speech he gave a few days ago, when apparently their was fire in his belly and a fierce desire to resume. He is a carea coach, and one of the greatest.

 

[RichoRox12]

I'm all for TEAM SHEEDY.

Screw the big process the club are about to waste more money on and appoint him now for Kevin2010.

 

[Kyusss]

Noooooooooo thanks

 

[CoggaRules]

NO WAY!

Sheedy is well past it. He's good to have around the club to suck in his knowledge here and there but able to handle the rigours of coaching Richmond. 24/7 job with constant media scrutiny and pressure? I don't think so.

We would be lucky if he is still around by the next time we make finals. Thanks but no thanks, KB you goose.

Gotta love the old Richmond mentality. Any hope whatsoever is positive, right? Tommorow it will be Hardwick that will lead us to glory, then Malthouse?

You all will be jumping on Jayden Post, saying his future is so bright only to sink the boots and be calling for his head after a couple of bad games.

dude...except if someone invents a time machine that propels us 5 or more decades forward, we would be lucky if we were around too.
Not to mention that your post is totally lame....like what mentality do you have?
Whovever is in the seat will give people hope. Its not confined to tigerheads either fool. As for the last paragraph....if Post came in and had a couple of bad games...yes there will be people suggesting he aint up to it...like WTF...what do you expect? Do you expect people to sit there and say...gee he looked shit...looked like he aint got a clue...but hey...we wont call for his head...because we said his future is bright, when playing at Coburg? Like get real fool.

 

[Spluff]

Put him through the process - if he shows he's kept up with the changing game, and still has it, then I'd be happy to have him aboard.

 

[one eyedtiger]

Put him through the process - if he shows he's kept up with the changing game, and still has it, then I'd be happy to have him aboard.

Agree. We have to look at everyone who is interested, although hes not my first choice, have a look at him and see what happens.

 

[thecotch]

Put him through the process - if he shows he's kept up with the changing game, and still has it, then I'd be happy to have him aboard.

He was starting to sound very silly towards the end of his gig at essendon. Nonsensical actually. We need a bloke with a no-nonsense approach, no spin with the media and supporters, and balls to make hard decisions.

 

[mitch richmond]

If Hirdy became an assistant with a view to take over then I'd warm to having sheeds in for a year or two, but not long term.

Everyones mad on the old theory that great players make great coaches on the back of a few Michael Voss wins! Oh well, swings and roundabouts!

 

[Bazzar]

We need a bloke with a no-nonsense approach, no spin with the media and supporters, and balls to make hard decisions.

And that person is?

 

[True Thylacine]

Let the process decide. A decent thorough process will flesh out a decent coach. The 2 bandied round here day in day out both failed the scrutiny of due processes, Hardwick at Essendon and Sheedy at Melbourne. Just need to let it run its course and see who comes out on top.

 

[eays]

Hmm, not sold on Sheedy as coach. Just take a look at how Knights has transformed the Bombers since he took over from Sheeds, somehow I doubt they'd be doing as well if he'd stayed on.

Still, I'd like to see Sheeds stay and help the club in some capacity but maybe not as senior coach.

i completely disagree with this post and the common misconception, usually by younger fans, that it actually represents any truth ...

Firstly, the bulk of that list was put together by Sheeds, and had the benefit of being taught by him. This applies to the veterans, the guys in the middle bracket and most of the kids. Knights has only been in charge over 2 drafts and if you look at their team vs Carl last week, that only represents a handful of "Knights players".

Secondly, Ess were actually still in the 8 when Sheeds was told it was curtains. It wasnt as if they were a rabble. In fact, under Sheeds they virtually have never bottomed out and always had success. So much for the myth that you have to bottom out to rebuild.

Thirdly, his record speaks for itself and is as good as you are going to get. There is absolutely no comparison between an untried coach and a guy who has done it all and is the best in the business.

Finally, i also question whether Knights has really transformed them with gameplan or personnel? Like i said, most of the list was put together in Sheedy's time. Even the game style, is mostly an extension of what Sheedy was putting together in his final year. Its true, that it was not the style we come to associate with him, but i do remember clearly the interviews etc when he acknowledged that the game was changing (not something uncommon when you've been in it 30+ years) and that he was needing to change the style of the team etc ... hence the drafting of kids like Alwyn Davey, Paddy Ryder, Houli etc etc in his final years in charge. Knights has carried that on admirably and probably to some extent put his own stamp on things, but to say that wasnt the way Sheedy was taking things anyway is simply denying reality.