Key to beating franklin one on one

[Adam Selwood]

watching him last night i would play someone smaller on him, because if he marks and has a set shot at goal odds are he will miss, he is more dangerous when the ball hits the deck, seems not never miss on the run or under pressure. if he marks on the lead or in a pack situation who cares he will kicked 3 goals 7, but if you play a big defender on him he will go for the ground level ball and kick 8 2 like he did last night

Very good point. His work at ground level is incredible. He's 6'5 and 100Kg but he at times plays like a small forward.

If I'm a coach (which I actually am) I'd probably just go down the double team route. I'd much prefer to take my chances with Williams, Roughead etc. beating me rather than Franklin.

Take away Buddy and force the lesser-likes to beat you.

 

[spiraldiver]

It'd be really interesting to see how well Franklin would perform if playing for a crappy side like, well, the one I support; a side that rarely gets the ball into the attacking 50 and where forwards have to make the most of poor delivery and limited opportunities.

 

[Campbell's Chunky]

Hows it one on one if there's 2 dudes on him?

 

[Hodgepodge]

Key to winning = Get a Max Hudgeton.
He is the only player I have seen play on him WELL.

Franklin kicked 3 on him in a half.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

I am thinking of Fev's goal from a couple of rounds ago where he kicked the ball out of midair. I like his goals that roll along the ground etc. he is a freak. Franklin can' t do the dribblers as well as Fevola and he can't do the long shots as well as Fev.

clutching at straws you are....

he managed a goal from less then .5m away last night. vs richmond he kicked a goal along the ground facing the boundary line about 30 out.

and lets not forget how he manages 1-2 a game from 45+

 

[HawkDave]

Lake showed that Franklin is susceptible to mind games last night. Franklin never should have touched him, but he couldn't help himself and shoved him over the line.

No doubt Franklin's sore shoulder will get some attention from opposition coaches, too.

I personally think it was Lake who was suspectible to Franklin's mind games. Those fifties were junk fifties and completely put Lake on the back foot, Buddy was in his ear and giving it to him and Lake couldn't even kick the ball with any confidence.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Assuming the Hawks make the Grand Final, that will be the interesting thing.

Buddy is just a freak; people worry about kicking straight, but jesus, if you're having 8-12 shots at goal a game, you can afford to miss a few.

In the Grand Final, the best way to stop Buddy would be to knock him out, simple as that. Get a Mooney or a Harley or someone to line him up and run straight through him - sure, you'll get weeks, but you'll also deprive the Hawks of their best weapon, and hopefully lead to a flag.

That's 80s/90s stuff through - the last time we saw that happen was against J Brown by the Pies I think?

Will be interesting to see if anyone does it.

No need, just make sure every time he gets up for a mark in front of you, swing hard and fast for the armpit of his sore shoulder. A couple of those and he will be in trouble. Might give away a free kick, if you're good it won't be reportable though.

 

[davey_magik]

Give Colin Garland or Kelvin Moore a ring .

 

[hawks_time]

Hows it one on one if there's 2 dudes on him?

My thoughts exactly.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Hire a hitman to break his legs

 

[Zvim]

You need the CHB to be 35-40m in the corridor, it will force Franklin to head for the pocket in a one-on-one contest and he is at best dubious there from a set shot.

How many set shots did he put through from out wide last night? Had 5 shots, 2 behinds, 2 out on the full and i think he shanked one through the big sticks.

He IS going to get a fair bit of the ball, you want him to have shots out there.

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

Sniper on the roof?

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

played a lot of footy with Bud at school, both in our first XVIII and on the oval everyday at recess and lunch.

i'll tell you what has astounded me about buddys career so far:
1. he has somehow become even more athletic...could make finals of London 2012 400m without trouble

2. He's put on a lot of bulk, and i think 3 inches since he was 17

3. He still can't take a pack mark, and no AFL club has exploited this. I still remember king of the pack at school, and us boys would regularly outmark Bud (we were all 5'7"-6.

4. When Bud gets the ball in general play, he always has gone straight to the left boot (barring one time in a game this year - cant remeber who against - when he went onto the right....it was brilliant and a highlight of his career, proving his development)...we used to corral him onto the right with absolute ease, where he would be forced to handball the ball away, abnd hence why he has such a penetrating RIGHT handed handball to this day (Bud can handball further on the right than most people can kick)

5. Coinciding with the point 4, once the ball has fallen to ground, or is in general play, and you have forced him to his right side, you always take him by the upper legs. The lengths of his arms, and his ability to fend off, is one of his best traits, and one which he exploits game after game. He's been doing it since a 5 year old, so im told.

And that's just a short summary. Dont commit too many people to the aerial contest aganist him, because the likelihood is he wont mark it with a bit of pressure. Commit your numbers to the foot of the contest, and even though he has amazing second efforts and recovery, should he get the ball, force him onto the right, commit a tackler to the hips, and spread your groundmen to cover the pentration of his right hand.

A couple of pointers there which i think can LIMIT buddys impact....his athletic superiority will ensure that you can never entirely eradicate his impact from the game

Some great insight. Good to see some posters can contribute more than unfunny one-liners to a relatively important topic.

 

[Dimitri_Mishkin]

the only way to beat Franklin is to send a cyborg soldier back in time to kill his mother

 

[TheTrav]

When is everyone just going to concede that he cannot be beaten 1 on 1 and get on with their lives?

I agree, timetravel and making sure Mrs Franklin doesn't pop a Buddy out is the best way.

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

Because all of the ideas thought up in this thread haven't been tried before?

It's not as if teams that have played hawthorn over the last 2 years have had numerous coaches looking for different ways to stop buddy.

The only way you could stop buddy would be if you had another player with buddys attributes. And there isn't. So you cant.

Just put one good defender on him, another 10m in front of him and cross your fingers. All that can be done.

 

[Off The Couch]

Now every ones probably thinking this guys talking rubbish

for the last 2 years ive been hearing lance buddy franklin and i couldnt pick up where id seen the face or heard the name till i picked up some records

but back when i played in the WAFL(injury ended my chances at afl) we effectively toweled up lance franklin...
it wasnt by matching him in air or on foot.../

basically what we did was put our hard tagger from the midfielder on him and had a tall to match him in the contested air.. so basically when he got the ball from the ground or a hand ball he was it by a ton of bricks...

buddy doesnt like real hard solid hits early in the game so if anyone wants the answer to beating him there it is....

making him hurt in a big way.. none of this pansy tackling... just solid hard bumps and tackles.. he will effectively lose concentration on the game and starts playing for the man rather than the ball

like i said ppl may say its rubbish i dont know what im taling bout etc... but at the end of the day im just talking from personal experience

He played ONE senior game for Perth. was it this game that finished your promising AFL career.

Yes sir, you are certainly talking rubbish

 

[onezzz]

the best way to beating buddy is to put $1000 on him to kick the most goals, as i did lastnight, then collect

 

[Neville Bartos]

How about 'Ways to allow Franklin to annihilate you':

Talk up the player all week who will play on him, allowing the hawks a free insight into his opponent

Spoil his mark and then expect that your job is done

Rough him up at the start of the game. The idiots in this thread who think that this actually works have no idea (most coincidentally come from Waurn Ponds). Every game this year where I've seen Buddy's opponent try and rough him up, has failed miserably. Nathan Brown tried it and although it worked ok in the first half, Buddy got angry and kicked 6 in the second half. Andrew Mackie tried it for Geelong and although he won a free kick, Franklin came out and beat the Geelong defence. Craig Glass did it in the first clash and Buddy still kicked 5 and there are many other similar occurences.

Cheer him when he kicks it out on the full as he rarely does it twice with the extra motivation

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The best way to stop him is to keep the footy away from him by putting an extra man on him, and put a player on him that can actually spoil in marking contests. Not some skinny squib like Maxwell, Ryder, Brennan or Morris.

 

[Sir Ducksworthy]

Whack an under-rated superstar like max hudghton on him and find a way to keep him running, coz if Buddy decides to stand his ground and out-muscle a defender in a one-out contest, then that defender is SCREWED!

 

[pazza]

Got to go old-school. Give him a few cheap shots in the guts before the game starts.

 

[Johnny Utah #9]

Sniper on the roof?

You don't mean Didak do you? He's already got priors for the Kennedy assassination!

 

[phreeze77]

Buddy is the best player in the comp. Most people know this by now. The most dominant player I have ever seen alongside Carey.

Exactly, best player by a country mile, anyone thinks otherwise have got rocks in their head.

 

[WASaintsFan08]

fast foward 2 years.... lance who???? guys been held since the finals of 08 cept for average showings against low teams

alongside wayne carey? pffft guy barely deserves to kiss the kings shoes

oh and yes i did mean colts... and the one on one was with the guy in the air... the other guy just came across to make him sore.... he hates to be man handled and it has really showed... every coach adapted this technique and hey it paid off.... nothing changes

 

[fuey]

fast foward 2 years.... lance who???? guys been held since the finals of 08 cept for average showings against low teams

alongside wayne carey? pffft guy barely deserves to kiss the kings shoes

oh and yes i did mean colts... and the one on one was with the guy in the air... the other guy just came across to make him sore.... he hates to be man handled and it has really showed... every coach adapted this technique and hey it paid off.... nothing changes

Of course you mean:

Two years on, and we haven't seen anyone play Buddy one on one during that whole time, because there still isn't a physical match for the man. Two or three on one usually does the trick...

Although it was admitted in the original post that the key to beating Buddy one on one was to play two guys on him (one to contest, the other to hit), so I guess I didn't need to say it afterall...