I don't know any of the draftees for a bar of soap in terms of game style but how would someone comparable to both Luke Hodge & Brendan Goddard fall to pick 8??? While a Jarrad Grant is at pick 5?
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Watson is an interesting one. Some are going as far as to say he is a 2nd rounder. I really like Watson but I think Geelong will be looking at more pacy types. Smedts while nice one on one has some real class and a little bit of speed. Geelong looked really exposed in the finals against Collingwood's speed around the ground so I think they are going to top up with some relatively speedy types.
Watson probably doesn't suit the Geelong team all that well. My feeling with him is that he might get a little exposed on the lead with his relative lack of speed. In a team who zone off well and have midfielders regularly pushing back like Hawthorn and St Kilda would probably be better fits for Watson.
Adressed their key position defense needs to an extent with Tape who for mine is an ideal Tom Harley type replacement. I'm aware Scarlett is nearing the end but for Geelong I'd probably hold off and trade into or go after a mature option when they need to. They have every opportunity to remain competitive and a force of the competition, so I'd recommend they continue to go for it while their veterains are still around. These players are mostly complimentry to their excisting players, and then at a later date replacements should be looked at.
Prestia I have put allot of thought into but it Jayden Pitt available I just couldn't go past him. With some many other great midfielders I think Pitt would fit perfectly into an already strong team. Give him time and space and he is deadly by foot.
I don't know any of the draftees for a bar of soap in terms of game style but how would someone comparable to both Luke Hodge & Brendan Goddard fall to pick 8??? While a Jarrad Grant is at pick 5?
Watson is an interesting one. Some are going as far as to say he is a 2nd rounder. I really like Watson but I think Geelong will be looking at more pacy types. Smedts while nice one on one has some real class and a little bit of speed. Geelong looked really exposed in the finals against Collingwood's speed around the ground so I think they are going to top up with some relatively speedy types.
Watson probably doesn't suit the Geelong team all that well. My feeling with him is that he might get a little exposed on the lead with his relative lack of speed. In a team who zone off well and have midfielders regularly pushing back like Hawthorn and St Kilda would probably be better fits for Watson.
Adressed their key position defense needs to an extent with Tape who for mine is an ideal Tom Harley type replacement. I'm aware Scarlett is nearing the end but for Geelong I'd probably hold off and trade into or go after a mature option when they need to. They have every opportunity to remain competitive and a force of the competition, so I'd recommend they continue to go for it while their veterains are still around. These players are mostly complimentry to their excisting players, and then at a later date replacements should be looked at.
Smedts will be one of those looked at with pick 15.
Caddy is shaping as a top 10 pick. Wouldn't personally take him in this range, but all indications are after a surprisingly good draft combine that he will be in this very high range. If available certainly would be looked at.
But don't be disappointed with Lester or Tape. Both could go in the 2nd round. So considering they are available they are more selections based on value more than being the best fits.
For Geelong maybe a Kyle Hartigan might get looked at with a late or rookie selection. Very good key position defender who is very good one on one.
I don't know any of the draftees for a bar of soap in terms of game style but how would someone comparable to both Luke Hodge & Brendan Goddard fall to pick 8??? While a Jarrad Grant is at pick 5?
Going to respectfully disagree with you here. I don't think Geelong need to look at pacey types. Last year we picked up Menzel, Duncan and Christensen all pacey types and if we want pacey types we can address that at pick 24 and 30 odd.
Watson actually reminds me a bit of Hurley. Many people were calling him to slow and he turned out allright. I dont think that will be a problem for Watson so i still take him at 15 if available. So a Watson, Pitt and Prestia grab for our first 3 selections takes cares of needs (a defender) and a bit of pace and class.
What would we know anyway, but in Wells we trust.
Because he's describing playing style/positions, not ability. Hodge/Goddard would (presumably) be a utility type player that's can hold down KPD if needed, but can also go through the midfield, while Grant is an athletic tall type. Lynch might turn out to be a better Grant, which you might want to take over a worse Goddard.
Yeah, I'm frustrated by Caddy's draft camp, because he won't slide to 15 now
Still be happy with Smedts though.
I'm sure Hartigan will be looked at, probably rookie draft (although we may only have 2 or 3 live selections in the rookie draft). I would think, given Scarlett is likely to retire in 1-2 years, and be replaced by Gillies, leaving us no key defenders in reserve (Lonergan's ok but at 26 he's not a long term solution) that we'll take one defender in the ND, and one in the RD, just to cover our bases.
We might go down the road of a big key defender, and then with the other pick, a more mobile 3rd type, considering Enright is nearing the wrong side of 30. Tape, among others, could be a good fit here.
Excellent mock mate, well done.
I think Josh Green will go the next pick, to Melbourne.
Have heard they were very, very impressed with his interview and are wuite keen on picking him up.
Melbourne have a need for quality key position players, and with players of other positions being the better available selections at 12 I expect pick 32 will be for a key position player.
When he was interviewed a couple of weeks ago Wells said our draft priorities were speedy mids and key defenders, so I think it's fair to say both will feature prominently in our selections, though I doubt our first 3 picks will be solely on one or the other, they'll be a mix of both.
Side point knightmare, where do you rate Guthrie? I like him, but I'm having trouble predicting how high he might or might not go.
Yeah, fair enough. Do realise this. Just what I've heard in regard to Green!
Do you think Carlton are a cert to take Watson? Any chance he will slip to the brown and gold in your opinion?
I've really liked Lonergan and along with Giles and Taylor I don't have a huge problem with that defence.
Scarlett has been great and I think he will continue to be good. I expect once he retires for Geelong to trade into a replacement full back.
This draft while it is cherry ripe when it comes to key position forwards, there are few key position defenders of great value.
There will be a couple look at. No doubt. But my guess is as a late/ rookie selection due to the relative lack of quality.
Will not the comments of Wells. I view your backline as probably the area in the need of the biggest upgrade. So I'm looking at Smedts and Jacobs with pick 15 as the two possibilities.
At 23 Pitt as a midfielder I feel will be a star. But if not available then I think Lucas Cook might be the selection. He is a key position forward/ defender. Probably at this stage more of a forward, but I don't see why he can't be developed into a key position defender.
I've heard AFL club recruiters consider Guthrie a mid 1st rounder. So he is likely to go in the 14-16 type area.
In my personal rankings I don't rate Guthrie quite so high and view him as more of a 2nd rounder myself, but that's just my personal preference and I'm trying to reflect in this draft more so what AFL clubs might be thinking as opposed to my personal thoughts.
I think in that range there are a fair few more talented players and my belief is those defensive types come best as late draft or rookie selections anyway. So personally I wouldn't pay a 1st rounder to get him.
Knightmare,
Are you happy with Collingwoods picks according to you Phantom Draft?
I actually think that (Scarlett will retire at the end of next year, or at the latest the year after) our trading priority will be ruckman-with Ottens almost done, the interchange rule having ended Blake's career (thanks afl ) and one of Simpson or West not likely to survive beyond next year, we will desperately need a ruckman (Vardy will be very good down the track but he is just a baby) and that's where our salary cap and trading priority will be, because we'll need it for round 1 2012.
On the other hand, as you correctly identify, Lonergan's a decent stop gap and Gillies will be AFL ready soon, so we need more key defenders but it's more a "stockpile for a couple of years from now" need hence I think we'll draft them this year and do just that.
I'm interested that you're worried about the depth of key backs...do you think that beyond Watson and McCarthy, there's not much quality? Or do you just think the good ones aren't big enough for the key spots.
I like Smedts, all quality, and versatile, which Wells likes (see Menzel last year)...the fact that he's local helps too.
Pitt looks a likely type but I wouldn't be unhappy with Cook, however like I said if Watson slides into the 20's I think that's where we have to go.
I like the look of Guthrie and our other need is a lockdown player, be it small defender, or replacement for Ling, so I'm interested to see where he'll end up. I think good role players like him tend to go later (we are in agreement on that) but I reckon it's too optimistic to say he'll be there at our three third round picks, but it would be nice if he was.
lynch at 5 that would send the brisbane board into meltdown LOL
as crazy as it seems i could see it happen
but as chopperduck mentioned earlier in the thread we have been pretty much guaranteed to take a mid at 5 whether it be gaff or heppell
but as you did mention there are plenty of good mids around 25-31 but brisbane really are in dire needs for midfielders
what are your thoughts on ben duscher and callum sinclair? i think they especially duscher would suit brisbane to a tee
lynch at 5 that would send the brisbane board into meltdown LOL
as crazy as it seems i could see it happen
but as chopperduck mentioned earlier in the thread we have been pretty much guaranteed to take a mid at 5 whether it be gaff or heppell
but as you did mention there are plenty of good mids around 25-31 but brisbane really are in dire needs for midfielders
what are your thoughts on ben duscher and callum sinclair? i think they especially duscher would suit brisbane to a tee
Good job Knight, very different from the same 30 players rearranged
If Essendon pick up Atley AND Parker, Essendon would get an A++++ for there drafting, hope Parker's "down" year coasts him to Essendon at Pick 30..
I would actually be surprised to see him fall to the rookie draft, with such an emphasis on 'best available' this year, surely Hartigan would be in the top 70 prospects in the country.
Would also like to commend you on where you rate young Michael Hibberd, at 20 years of age, his rapid improvement has seen him become one of the better VFL prospects going further and playing AFL (even a starter in round 1, 2011).
Any ways, good read and definitely something a bit different.
Would love to see this draft pan out as you have it, but highly doubt it will happen (although very well could happen). Every year throws up bolters and sliders, this year is no different.
Just a last note: At Essendon's 2nd pick, we are going to get a very good highly rated midfielder that slides, look at some of the names that are being bantied around as pick 30 or later.
Am excited, and draft day is still so far away
Round 1, 2011 is even further... bring back the FOOTY
From Longmire's comments about needing to strengthen the midfield and his pursuit of Sherman, I'd expect the Swans to target at least one, maybe two midfield-sized runners with the first three picks at least. You have us taking two undersized key position players with our first two picks and then a player I don't know much about but I believe is a small forward.
I've not seen any of these kids play, but Josh Green seems to have the attributes that would appeal to what Longmire says he wants, and it has been reported that the Swans were impressed with Conca at draft camp (and I think he's a Swans fan too!)
I take it you changed your mind on who would pick up Lycett?#24 (St. Kilda) – Scott Lycett (SA)
Height: 202cm, Weight: 95kg, DOB: 26/09/1992
Recruited from: Port Adelaide
Style: Dean Cox
Range: 6-19
Why: Good hands. For his height, very agile and has great mobility. I don’t think he will lose much athleticism as he adds muscle. After Gorringe, Lycett is the other standout ruckman and the only other ruckman in the 1st round conversation. At this stage a good value selection and with the way Port Adelaide have drafted since their existence with the way they have valued ruckman over the years and with Coach Matthew Primus now in charge I think he would like this selection allot.
I take it you changed your mind on who would pick up Lycett?
Conca I think is every chance for the Sydney selection and will be high on the list at 21. Just with Darling sliding I think he is an interesting selection as a forward/midfield option.
Respect your thinking re Darling's possible future position, though with Rohan and now Everitt already on our list as tall players who might play through the midfield or might become slightly undersized KPP types, I suspect that makes him even less of a priority type (though clearly "best available" comes into play, especially for the earlier picks). From what I've seen of Lewis Johnston, I also wonder if he isn't best suited to a high-half-forward role (a taller version of ROK) than a true key forward, at least for the next year or three.
Out of interest, how quick is Conca?