I agree.
Its an absolute howler. Serious overrating of the list at COllingwood.
Lets not forget as soon as they handed over the pick they were basically out of the race for Bailey Smith too.
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Traded Lachie Schultz [Traded to Collingwood for #34 and F1]
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I agree.
Its an absolute howler. Serious overrating of the list at COllingwood.
Lets not forget as soon as they handed over the pick they were basically out of the race for Bailey Smith too.
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The howler isnt really the giving up for Schultz almost, it was viewing him as a replacement for a outgoing player whose just much much much better
If Schulz came in as a needed best 22 player and the trade ends up pick 5 for Schultz, well then bad luck happens. Take the risk and sometimes they work, sometimes they dont
Giving up a much better footballer to replace him with a lesser one and then actively giving up pick 5 in the process is just what blows this out into the failure it is.
If Schulz came in as a needed best 22 player and the trade ends up pick 5 for Schultz, well then bad luck happens. Take the risk and sometimes they work, sometimes they dont
Giving up a much better footballer to replace him with a lesser one and then actively giving up pick 5 in the process is just what blows this out into the failure it is.
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Makes up for the James Clement &Paul Medhurst trades I suppose.
So it's looking like nearly the exact trade that Richmond did with GWS for inside ball winning midfielder Jacob Hopper. A trade that most people, including Collingwood fans, were deriding. Yet here we are.
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In hindsight, probably thought they were trading away a pick in the high teens. Even then it's a pretty big overpay.
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For comparison as it turns out Brisbane paid roughly the same for Lachie Neale.
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That high teen pick would be pushed back with F/S and Academy picks too.
From pies perspective at the time they felt they were paying two 2nd rd picks which is a good deal for Freos top goalkicker 20-23
What explains his sudden fall from grace? I know he has had some niggles, but the overall drop off is pretty incredible. I thought they had well at the time too.
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Pies haven’t been setting the world on fire and if your not a million dollar recruit you wont be your team mates first option in your first year
Freo now for the first time ever have a great culture of getting the best out of players.
lobb acres Aish Shultz Brodie have played most of their best footy at the anchors.
Maybe, at Freo he knew his role and had earns his team mates respect. As he had their respect, they looked for him to dish off to.
At Collingwood, he may still trying to work out what his role is. Still putting in the work to earn the team mates respect, and then they will seek him out to dish off.
His confidence is down.
On track for 30 goals (if he hadn't missed any games) and still pressures a heap. (he was always a pressure first forward)
Not sure there has been a significant drop off, it's just that as a small forward he would've been expected to improve in a better team, unfortunately for Pies fans, the whole team has had a dropoff this year.
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Truly believe in 10 years from now we will remember this trade.
I dont think atleast in my time a trade has ever been this one sided? Id be surprised if he ist well entrenched in the VFL team by this time next year. He is a absolute mile off it.
I dont think atleast in my time a trade has ever been this one sided? Id be surprised if he ist well entrenched in the VFL team by this time next year. He is a absolute mile off it.
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Pies really stuffed this one up.
In a draft where the top 10 are really even plus Schultz poor season this trade has really turned sour.
In a draft where the top 10 are really even plus Schultz poor season this trade has really turned sour.
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Trent Croad traded for Luke Hodge & Sam Mitchell.
2 years and 38 games later traded back to Freo for Ryley Dunn.
Croad becomes a premiership player - along side Hodge & Mitchell.
Dunn plays 8 games.
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Wow I forgot that one. Thats never being beaten for sure
Pretty convenient to forget to mention McPharlin was part of that trade.
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Trent croad plus Luke McPharlin for Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell.
So yes, the Trent Croad element sucked but essentialy we spent Pick 1 on a bloke who played 200+ games for us and was All Australian.
Trent Croad had a career eqivalent to a pick 30s for us.
You say that but Collingwood will be ok. They turn Frampton into a premiership player who towelled up Charlie/McKay. If one team can recover from the trade, it’s the pies. If this was Carlton or North, it’d be another spoon.
It's very ugly for Collingwood but the Dockers don't win the trade unless they take a good player with their pick. Time will tell. For what it's worth, Schultz has kicked more goals than any Fremantle small this year in a year they were in the hunt for the top four/premiership.
Yeah, i get your point, but this is a big one.
Bailey Smith was openly in disucssions with the pies, then they burnt their draft capital on Schultz.
Ginnivan also then asked for a trade.
Imagine Collingwood replacing Sidebottom with Smith, and then Ginnivan just continuing to grow in his role. They would be a 3 to 4 goal better team.
It's fun reading this thread from the beginning.
Collingwood "just getting it done" by picking up a fantastic player, and "LOL Freo" for being gutted and walked all over by the Big Vic teams.....
Collingwood "just getting it done" by picking up a fantastic player, and "LOL Freo" for being gutted and walked all over by the Big Vic teams.....
pick 10 and pick 34 for Lachie Schultz.
Hands down the worst trade of the last decade.
Hands down the worst trade of the last decade.
Can't be worse than 6 and 23 for Hogan who was then traded two years after for pick 54
Hogan 18 goals for Freo. Schultz 24 for Collingwood.
