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Not the most optimistic fellow aren't ya.
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Agree with your assessment re the draftees of the last 2 years. Bar Grundy, and having Grundy as no 1 ruckman is our biggest potential weakness, none of the draftees of the last 2 seasons are expected to play a significant part in the team. Our improvement in 2014 should come from having all of Fasalo, Beams, Ball, Toovey, Keefe, Young and Grundy available from round 1 or very early in the season. All these 1st 22 players missed big parts of 2013. I see natural improvement in Collingwood from that group of players assuming we don't have another large group of our 1st 22 go down with injuries.
Bar Grundy I am not expecting any of the draftees of the last 2 seasons to play a role. They will spend most of 2014 in the VFL especially if the senior guys stay fit. Adams and White of our senior recruits are the 2 I expect to make a difference to the senior team.
I think you missed my point grasshopper.
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Fasolo is coming back from a navicular, Toovey a knee reco, Young's hamstrings look shot and turning 30 this year Ball hardly has scope for improvement. You can't just expect this bunch to come out of the blocks flying when they all have reasons why they could struggle for a while.
Do however expect to see big things from Beams, Keeffe, Seedsman and Williams.
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Yeah there is something in what you say. However reports from the training track are promising for all the 4 you queried, having them available will help. My main feeling is Collingwood had a bad year last year, the list underperformed compared to what I believe their capabilities are. Teams do that sometimes, have a bad season. Too soon to write them off fo mine. There are more reasons to think Collingwood will improve in 2014 compared to what they did in 2013 than fall further.
It's only less than a season and a half ago the Buckley had the Pies, despite injuries, sitting on top of the ladder and equal fav with Hawks for the flag. That was early , round 13-14 approx, in the 2nd half of the 2012 H&A. Not much has gone right at Collingwood since. My feeling is if we have a better injury run, with our guns all in their prime years, we are a good chance to be top 4 in 2014
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That double negative.
The only thing that gives me confidence is we beat them twice last year and they do not play etihad well. Dale is training well and expected to play round 1
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But.....but....but, what about the opinions of certain Collingwood supporters who went on for pages and pages about how his ankle is shot, and how he'll be lucky to play?
You do have a point those Collingwood folk are a bunch of well educated in the know sort of people. I doubt they would let there anger of losing Dale get in the way of there opinions
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Carlton in round 1 should be a ripping game. It will be the first test for Port to see if the increased recruitment of faster players in the off-season has paid dividends, since the game is at Etihad, where we have typically struggled recently because of lack of pace. Etihad also helps exemplify what Carlton's strength is, which is their outside run. This is an area where we struggled to defend against last year, and it is not coincidence that the most recent time we beat Carlton was when the rain hindered there running. I think the NAB cup games should give an indication of how influential Port's newly recruited players (e.g. White, Polec) are, as they will be key in beating Carlton.
this has been posted a good 10 times by Richmond supporters.
Well it is the obvious reply to such a silly statement. If you posted a prediction that the sun is a certainty to rise in the west tomorrow I think a few people might post similar replies.
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Ladder at the end of Round 5
1: Geelong (5-0)
2: Fremantle (4-1)
3: Richmond (4-1)
4: Hawthorn (4-1)
5: WCE (4-1)
6: Sydney (3-2)
7: Essendon (3-2)
8: Carlton (3-2)
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9: Collingwood (2-3)
10: Port Adelaide (2-3)
11: Brisbane (2-3)
12: North Melbourne (2-3)
13: St Kilda (2-3)
14: Adelaide (2-3)
15: Gold Coast (1-4)
16: Western Bulldogs (1-4)
17: Melbourne (1-4)
18: Greater Western Sydney (0-5)
1: Geelong (5-0)
2: Fremantle (4-1)
3: Richmond (4-1)
4: Hawthorn (4-1)
5: WCE (4-1)
6: Sydney (3-2)
7: Essendon (3-2)
8: Carlton (3-2)
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9: Collingwood (2-3)
10: Port Adelaide (2-3)
11: Brisbane (2-3)
12: North Melbourne (2-3)
13: St Kilda (2-3)
14: Adelaide (2-3)
15: Gold Coast (1-4)
16: Western Bulldogs (1-4)
17: Melbourne (1-4)
18: Greater Western Sydney (0-5)
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Let me preface this by saying Daisy was a great player at Collingwood and will be at Carlton. I would never wish an injury on him. However the truth of his injury is that until he puts maximum stress on it i.e a match or simulated match practice, he won't know if the conservative rehab he has undergone has been a success. There is no surgical test his doctor can do to simulate what the ankle will undergo in match conditions. His injury is the type that still may fail him when that point comes.
Bottom line is Carltons docs feel the injury will stand up but it is still an unknown. The final answer still awaits. Good luck to him.
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You do have a point those Collingwood folk are a bunch of well educated in the know sort of people. I doubt they would let there anger of losing Dale get in the way of there opinions
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Maybe a better education and you would know the difference between there and their. Take care with those stones.
I have always struggled with the similar words . Cheers for the education
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We had 1 win against Geelong in 10 matches then we won. So what makes you think it might not happen against Richmond.
Anything "might" happen. But whereas you were willing to assess other matches as 50/50 you predicted a Lions win. That would be like me predicting a Tiger win against Collingwood or Geelong, neither of whom we have beaten for several years. I have hopes of beating them. I think it might happen. I coulod even argue that it's bound to happen eventually and, as we have broken similar losing streaks over the last couple of years, this year would be as good a year as any for it to happen. But it remains the case that, unless we're in stellar form and are unbeaten when we come to play those two teams, they will be firm favourites based on their form against us. We will be equally firm favourites against you. To say that you "might" beat us or to speculate that you have a 20% or a 30% or whatever chance of beating us is reasonable. To suggest that the match would be a 50/50 would be unsupportable. To not even do that but expect a win is just ridiculous.
Except that Carlton were dead last for uncontested possessions and 16th for average disposals. Even Melbourne generated more run then did
. It was our over reliance on clearances(3rd), ruck dominance (4th) and contested ball (3rd) that won and lost us the vast majority of our games. Carlton aggressively targeted runners who could use the ball decently well in the off-season for a reason. Our midfielders usually provided little to no run at all except for Lucas and a occasional cameo from Gibbs, Curnow or Murphy. Having a skilled and attacking back line was our only saving grace.
You've stated you will win against us though. What's this based on other than having 'more heart' (wtf does that mean?)
I don't know, why would more heart be involved ?
Sorry, thought it was you that brought it up (it was Sherminator.)
His automatic win against us and Geelong was that Brisbane has more 'heart.'
Richmond vs Brisbane should be at least 50/50. Brisbane fans seem to think they will win, where as Richmond supporters think they will continue the trend.
I was probably fired up at the time. the game would be 50/50 at best for the lions
Brisbane have a lot of bits and pieces to sort out. They have a new coach, guys to work in like McGuanre and West as well as a host of kids to debut. Some of their fringe players aren't really set either and it'll take some time for Leppitsch to figure it out. Wouldn't surprise me if McGuane played a lot early. Given all that, and given Richmond's record against Brisbane, the tigs are favourites IMO. I think Brisbane would do well to win 10 games this year.
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