Less than a month out , who's our XI for Brisbane

[frankrizzo]

That will be the team, johnson will play as the third quick.

The only position that seems up in the air is the number 6 could be bailey hughes or anybody really, i just hope it's an actual batsmen and not some half arsed allrounder.

If they do play mitch then surely he has to take the new ball, if he is going to get a gig in tests based on his controlled new ball one day bowling he had better prove he can do the same with a new ball in tests.

 

[courtjester]

What I'd like to see:

- Chris Rogers
- Shaun Marsh
- Shane Watson
- Mark Cosgrove/ Nick Maddinson
- Michael Clarke
- Steve Smith
- Brad Haddin
- James Faulkner
- Peter Siddle
- Ryan Harris
- Nathan Lyon


What I think we'll see:

- Chris Rogers
- Dave Warner
- Shane Watson
- Michael Clarke
- Steve Smith
- George Bailey
- Brad Haddin
- Mitchell Johnson
- Peter Siddle
- Ryan Harris
- Nathan Lyon

 

[Run n Spread]

the poms are in the same boat barring injury.

8 positions are inked in, co-incidentally the same as the aussies

Cook
Root/Carberry
Trott
Pietersen
Bell
Balance/Bairstow - Stokes
Prior
Broad
Swann
Finn/Tremlett/Rankin - Panesar/Stokes
Anderson

What happened to Bresnan? Injured? Tremlett and Onions (?) were their next reserves most of the series weren't they? Woakes get a spot?

They will probably go:
Cook
Root
Trott
Pieterson
Bell
Bairstow (will probably revert back to him at 6 if not may go an all rounder considering Carberry is an opener)
Prior
Broad
Anderson
Swan
Tremlett

 

[Run n Spread]

What I'd like to see:

What I think we'll see:

- Chris Rogers
- Dave Warner
- Shane Watson
- Michael Clarke
- Steve Smith
- George Bailey
- Brad Haddin
- Mitchell Johnson
- Peter Siddle
- Ryan Harris
- Nathan Lyon

I've got a feeling they may pull a surprise and slot Shaun Marsh in. Or just go back to Hughes. (Whoever scores most in the shield match before selection). I get the feeling Bailey is been prepped to come in as captain should Clarke's back really flare up and keep him out for 2+ tests. If Clarke plays Bailey won't.

 

[courtjester]

I'm meh on Bailey. I think he'd be ok, but I don't see why he'd be captain ahead of Haddin, especially for only 1 or 2 tests.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

What happened to Bresnan? Injured? Tremlett and Onions (?) were their next reserves most of the series weren't they? Woakes get a spot?

They will probably go:
Cook
Root
Trott
Pieterson
Bell
Bairstow (will probably revert back to him at 6 if not may go an all rounder considering Carberry is an opener)
Prior
Broad
Anderson
Swan
Tremlett

I can only assume England are expecting a batch of gun barrel straight Kookaburras, like last season, and bouncy decks with no movement. That is the only feasible reason for Onions to be playing provincial cricket in South Africa. He seems to be regarded as an on-call back-up for Anderson if Jimmy breaks down, and they presumably want him having match time in case he is required rather than sitting in the dressing rooms. If they thought the ball would move whatsoever they would surely be looking at playing Onions and Anderson together.
I think Bresnan was simply not picked, with the Irishman Boyd Rankin favoured.

Carberry could open with Root at six.

 

[Run n Spread]

I can only assume England are expecting a batch of gun barrel straight Kookaburras, like last season, and bouncy decks with no movement. That is the only feasible reason for Onions to be playing provincial cricket in South Africa. He seems to be regarded as an on-call back-up for Anderson if Jimmy breaks down, and they presumably want him having match time in case he is required rather than sitting in the dressing rooms. If they thought the ball would move whatsoever they would surely be looking at playing Onions and Anderson together.
I think Bresnan was simply not picked, with the Irishman Boyd Rankin favoured.

Carberry could open with Root at six.

Yep presumably they don't think it will swing a lot so they have gone with the 1 swing bowler and 2 tall/quicker bowlers. Not a bad move if conditions suit as Onions and even Anderson could really struggle on flat dry decks. Still would've bought at least one of Bresnan and Onions along. It swung in Melbourne and Sydney last time and look what happened then.

 

[bird_man]

While being in and out of Australian teams, T20 competitions and ODD competitions... Who also averaged 50 the year before.

Same as anyone else that plays in the one day and 20/20 side. How many Shield games did he play?

 

[Torz]

Bresnan has stress fractures in his back.

 

[Zach Package]

I can only assume England are expecting a batch of gun barrel straight Kookaburras, like last season, and bouncy decks with no movement. That is the only feasible reason for Onions to be playing provincial cricket in South Africa. He seems to be regarded as an on-call back-up for Anderson if Jimmy breaks down, and they presumably want him having match time in case he is required rather than sitting in the dressing rooms. If they thought the ball would move whatsoever they would surely be looking at playing Onions and Anderson together.
I think Bresnan was simply not picked, with the Irishman Boyd Rankin favoured.

Carberry could open with Root at six.

Have they announced their lions squad yet?

They could be carrying a genuine swing bowler in that squad who they could always call up if Jimmy goes down

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Jack Package
Good point regarding the Lions. From memory that is how Anderson got his ODI debut, and performed so badly he looked like he would never be seen again.
But surely Onions is the guy to replace Anderson if that becomes necessary. He has had times where he did alright at Test level, and was the leading county bowler this year by all reports.

 

[The_Reaper]

Surely if Clarke misses then Rogers is Captain?

 

[Plugger35]

Ben Cutting should be the batting all rounder at no.6 and captain.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Same as anyone else that plays in the one day and 20/20 side. How many Shield games did he play?

Which is how many players? Finch? He struggled. Warner? He was in the test team. Starc? He struggled (well he's actually just shit with a red ball in hand). Johnson? Enough said. They are the only players who play all formats from memory. Apart from Wade, but he's just crap.

 

[Badesumofu]

Interesting that nearly everyone's teams are so close.

Rogers
Warner
Watson
Clarke
Smith
Bailey
Haddin
Johnson
Harris
Siddle
Lyon

Bird is injured. Johnson is bowling well, just about as well as I've seen him. Mitch at his best is worthy of a spot. I like Faulkner a lot, but his batting isn't good enough for the top 6 at this point, and he's not in the top 3 or 4 quicks in the country yet. I don't subscribe to the view that an all-rounder must be good enough to get selected based purely on one discipline (if you had a hypothetical guy who is the 7th best bat, and the 5th best quick, I think you pick him) but his batting is nowhere near good enough to be picked as a batting all-rounder, and his bowling isn't quite up to the level of the top tier of quicks yet. I could see that changing in the future, he is only 23, but he's not there yet.

 

[bird_man]

Which is how many players? Finch? He struggled. Warner? He was in the test team. Starc? He struggled (well he's actually just shit with a red ball in hand). Johnson? Enough said. They are the only players who play all formats from memory. Apart from Wade, but he's just crap.

I didn't say all form. Bailey doesn't play all forms. One Dayers and 20/20. He played enough Sheffield Shield to make a few runs, still only averaged 18. If you're happy with a bloke to come in after averaging 18 in a Sheffield Shield season well good luck to ya. I'm a big Bailey fan and would love to see him in the test side, but he doesn't deserve it. Maybe if he comes out and scores a big tonne in a Shield game or Aus A game (not sure if he'll be back in time for that).

 

[Black Diamond]

Surely if Clarke misses then Rogers is Captain?

common sense + not marketable = does not compute

 

[Bradesmaen]

I didn't say all form. Bailey doesn't play all forms. One Dayers and 20/20. He played enough Sheffield Shield to make a few runs, still only averaged 18. If you're happy with a bloke to come in after averaging 18 in a Sheffield Shield season well good luck to ya. I'm a big Bailey fan and would love to see him in the test side, but he doesn't deserve it. Maybe if he comes out and scores a big tonne in a Shield game or Aus A game (not sure if he'll be back in time for that).

I was referring to all forms that you mentioned (aka ODI and T20).

As I said though, he averaged 55 in the season before that. I'd be happy for him to come in, he had a bad season last year swapping around but he is clearly the most talented of the batsmen. He clearly deserves it. David Warner is allowed to average 0 and he's the first one picked.

 

[bird_man]

I was referring to all forms that you mentioned (aka ODI and T20).

As I said though, he averaged 55 in the season before that. I'd be happy for him to come in, he had a bad season last year swapping around but he is clearly the most talented of the batsmen. He clearly deserves it. David Warner is allowed to average 0 and he's the first one picked.

Not sure how you can compare Warner who played one Shield game and Bailey who played 8 (out of 10?). And as much as Warner shits me he was averaging about 60 the season he was picked.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Not sure how you can compare Warner who played one Shield game and Bailey who played 8 (out of 10?). And as much as Warner shits me he was averaging about 60 the season he was picked.

I was referring to Warners substandard Ashes performance etc actually. Bailey played 8. 4 at the start of the season when he'd just flown back from Australian T20 and ODI duty, was interrupted by the BBL, ODI and T20I games and then played another 4 two months after he had played his last one. It wasn't like he was not playing cricket at all, he was playing a lot of cricket (and in good form in the ODI and T20 formats), its clearly hard to adjust from those two back to Shield cricket. As I said, those who played in those two formats also struggled in Shield/Test cricket. David Warner, Aaron Finch, Mitchells Starc and Johnson, Matthew Wade... etc

In his first 4 games of the season Bailey had scores of 66, 32, 19, 20, 11, 21. Average of 28, so as the season wore on, he got worse (as thats when all the format changing happened). In his first two matches of the season he only batted twice in four innings. Not to mention three of those games were at Hobart, the worst place for batsmen all of last year.

 

[Ashton Agar]

Watson
Rogers
Hughes
Clarke
Smith
Bailey
Haddin
Johnson (If fit)
Harris
Siddle
Lyon

 

[The_Reaper]

I was referring to Warners substandard Ashes performance etc actually. Bailey played 8. 4 at the start of the season when he'd just flown back from Australian T20 and ODI duty, was interrupted by the BBL, ODI and T20I games and then played another 4 two months after he had played his last one. It wasn't like he was not playing cricket at all, he was playing a lot of cricket (and in good form in the ODI and T20 formats), its clearly hard to adjust from those two back to Shield cricket. As I said, those who played in those two formats also struggled in Shield/Test cricket. David Warner, Aaron Finch, Mitchells Starc and Johnson, Matthew Wade... etc

In his first 4 games of the season Bailey had scores of 66, 32, 19, 20, 11, 21. Average of 28, so as the season wore on, he got worse (as thats when all the format changing happened). In his first two matches of the season he only batted twice in four innings. Not to mention three of those games were at Hobart, the worst place for batsmen all of last year.

Runs were on offer though.
All of Ponting, Cosgrove and Doolan were in the top five run scorers.

 

[Super Hans]

I would be extremely disappointed if Warner plays over Hughes.

 

[Super Hans]

Watson
Rogers
Hughes
Clarke
Smith
Bailey
Haddin
Johnson (If fit)
Harris
Siddle
Lyon

This would also be my team if Bird is injured.

 

[what did you say]

klinger wade an bailey should be the names that come up as that middle order batter,hope they tell wade to take of the gloves an field an maybe bowl ha, i know he scored his runs in one day games on a small ground but wonder if cutting will be thrown up as a all rounder,did score a ton last sheffield season