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Thoroughbred said:
Spoke to a Natte person on the phone last night. They said that to be honest Natte weren't that under done on the weekend and that Skipton were just far too good. The scary thing for Natte is a couple of there key players may miss the majority of the second half of the year with serious injury. Word on the street is; Ross, Mortlock, Quinn, Jardine and maybe McNamee may be gone.. Personally i rate Natte NO CHANCE for a flag this year now.
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That is dissapointing to hear.
 
If the long term injuries are true its a shame as earlier on i was hoping to see maybe a Natte/ Rokewood final. Still i may have been jumping the gun to start engraving trophies. I also found out a few weeks ago the C/L coach is very superstitious and will usually put other names in the best intead of the actual best players so he does't put the mozz on them. Useless information i know but forget whats written in the paper. I am very concerned for this league as i feel Natte & Navarre would be better off in the MCDFL, Ararat in the MDFL and that leaves 5. How long can the LPFL continue with the CHFL becoming one of the strongest country leagues in vic
 

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Snail said:
I am very concerned for this league as i feel Natte & Navarre would be better off in the MCDFL, Ararat in the MDFL and that leaves 5. How long can the LPFL continue with the CHFL becoming one of the strongest country leagues in vic
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The 2 division CHFL is a great idea and should be done ASAP as those top teams will smash the spirit out of the weaker teams. Country Vic can't afford any more clubs to fold or merge.

A 2 division CHFL comp would work well if you brought Skipton, CL, Rokewood, Illabarook and Lexton in.

Look at Lexton a few years back with Fisher at the helm. If they couldn't win a flag then, they never will. I feel the same for the current Natte and Navarre line ups. They are as strong as they will get.
 
Old School Biff said:
Fair call there.

I don't think people from the bigger clubs would understand how hard it would be for Natte and Navarre to 'allow for depth'.

1. They would have to be smaller budget than CL, Rokewood or Skipton.
2. They are a minimum 60 mins + from Ballarat. This makes it hard to recruit guys who are going to be in and out of the 2's if they've got that far to drive. Maryborough and Stawell only have 5-8% of the population of Ballarat and a fair few teams to support.
3. Have a look at the towns. There's nothing there. It is a credit they haven't gone the way of Lansborough or Marnoo.

2008 should see them both in the MCDFL. I'm very impressed with both Navarre's and Natte's efforts in recruiting this year, but to me, it is proof that they can't keep up with the Ballarat teams.
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yes good call, natte have been up there 4 a couple of years now and just cant seem to have the right mix come september, its a credit to them but i think the leagues best interest is to split the sides and let them all go there own way, u look at c/l and navare at the moment there r 2/4 and sittting in the five doesnt say much 4 the league, you look at the chfl if you sitting on 2/4, start rebuilding for next year, i just dont think the league is going to last and if they dont do something soon we r going to get more clubs folding and we dont want that :thumbsdown:
 
wonker said:
It might be time to consider an Avoca / Natte merger.
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If they merged and held on to their players they'd win 5 flags on end. What really disappoints me is that most people that have some involvement in the LPFL players,supporters, committees can see whats happening to the league but i'll bet nothing happens until its too late. If your involved at Skipton, Carngham, Rokewood etc don't think cos your clubs strong on & off the field that you dont have a problem because if Ararat, Natte, Lexton leave the league or fold up then you'll have no one to play as any less than 8 teams will make it very hard to continue. I've seen this before and it looks like it could happen here. I believe within 5 years. What makes it very hard in this region is the fact that the CHFL is flying and i can tell you the league officials wont want to mess with the structure they have. Its time to start talking at league level and throwing around ideas NOW.
 
I highly doubt Natte and Avoca would ever even entertain the idea of merging Wonk!

Crushing blow for Natte on the weekend judging from the scores in the paper. Can they bounce back from that?
 
Snail said:
If they merged and held on to their players they'd win 5 flags on end. What really disappoints me is that most people that have some involvement in the LPFL players,supporters, committees can see whats happening to the league but i'll bet nothing happens until its too late. If your involved at Skipton, Carngham, Rokewood etc don't think cos your clubs strong on & off the field that you dont have a problem because if Ararat, Natte, Lexton leave the league or fold up then you'll have no one to play as any less than 8 teams will make it very hard to continue. I've seen this before and it looks like it could happen here. I believe within 5 years. What makes it very hard in this region is the fact that the CHFL is flying and i can tell you the league officials wont want to mess with the structure they have. Its time to start talking at league level and throwing around ideas NOW.
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You're on the right track there Snail. The league needs to prepare for the worst but hope for the best.

After watching a fair bit of the LPFL this year I would be comfortable in saying Skipton and Rokewood would hold their own in the CHFL. They wouldn't win flag, of course, but they'd be a chance of top 5.

CL should be able to turn it around and become competitive, especially with Head back in. Illabarook would be the only concern.

Geographically, Natte and Navarre are a long way from home in the LPFL. Same goes for Ararat. The MCDFL and MDFL would be best for those clubs respectively.

Lexton is a line ball. Talk is that they have a few rough years ahead so perhaps the MCDFL would be better for them.
 
I dont think the MCDFL can take another 3 clubs to be honest and they would be wary of bringing in Lexton and Navarre to an extent due to their proximity to Ballarat and their increased ability to pull players. I think Natte will still be next in in all honesty, probably at the expense of Trentham who will go to the Riddell League.
 

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Snail said:
If they merged and held on to their players they'd win 5 flags on end. What really disappoints me is that most people that have some involvement in the LPFL players,supporters, committees can see whats happening to the league but i'll bet nothing happens until its too late. If your involved at Skipton, Carngham, Rokewood etc don't think cos your clubs strong on & off the field that you dont have a problem because if Ararat, Natte, Lexton leave the league or fold up then you'll have no one to play as any less than 8 teams will make it very hard to continue. I've seen this before and it looks like it could happen here. I believe within 5 years. What makes it very hard in this region is the fact that the CHFL is flying and i can tell you the league officials wont want to mess with the structure they have. Its time to start talking at league level and throwing around ideas NOW.
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Spot on snail, I also know from experience what happens when clubs want to leave a league (Look at the old Ararat association), Clubs sent to 3 different leagues to play footy and the VCFL leading all clubs down the garden path telling them that they would do a restructure at the end of the 2000 season, The VCFL have proven time and time again they are a toothless Tiger and are too frightened to take on the leagues in regards to restructure, they would rather see clubs fall over than restructure country football leagues.
 
bigun said:
Spot on snail, I also know from experience what happens when clubs want to leave a league (Look at the old Ararat association), Clubs sent to 3 different leagues to play footy and the VCFL leading all clubs down the garden path telling them that they would do a restructure at the end of the 2000 season, The VCFL have proven time and time again they are a touthless Tiger and are too frightened to take on the leagues in regards to restructure, they would rather see clubs fall over than restructure country football leagues.
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Thats true bigun. Ararat eagles play R/C at R/C sat. They go through Beaufort(CHFL). Go to Skipton which is only 30 odd k's away from Lismore(MDFL). It doesnt make sense.
 
orion21 said:
Thats true bigun. Ararat eagles play R/C at R/C sat. They go through Beaufort(CHFL). Go to Skipton which is only 30 odd k's away from Lismore(MDFL). It doesnt make sense.
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Very True. Stupid league.

Avoca used to go through the MCDFL, CHFL and nearly into the MDFL for most of their games.

Natte, Navarre and Lexton should be in the MCDFL with us.

The bottom line is that the league is geographically unsound. It is idiodic on the VCFL's behalf to sit there and allow a league like that to exist.

It's a good standard of footy and etc but reserves and unpaid senior players get sick of driving over an hour to play footy with petrol prices so high.
 
I think most people wouldn't mind driving an hour and a bit to play footy, most car pull anyway. I agree the league is not structured well at all. Clubs like Navarre, Natte, Lexton should be right up there i no they are miles away from town and that your Skipton's and Rokewoods and C/L will grab players around Brat but they just have to try harder. I reckon these days most recruits want a job most importantly so if u can find them employment your halfway home. Surely the farmers around there district have jobs they can offer? most of the recruits these days are uni students so alot of the work they get is a day here and a day there...
 
layzerman said:
I think most people wouldn't mind driving an hour and a bit to play footy, most car pull anyway. I agree the league is not structured well at all. Clubs like Navarre, Natte, Lexton should be right up there i no they are miles away from town and that your Skipton's and Rokewoods and C/L will grab players around Brat but they just have to try harder. I reckon these days most recruits want a job most importantly so if u can find them employment your halfway home. Surely the farmers around there district have jobs they can offer? most of the recruits these days are uni students so alot of the work they get is a day here and a day there...
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An hour and a bit to training makes a long night. 1 hour travel each way with a 2hr session in the middle makes for a very long day.

I'll tell you that Natte are very aggressive in their recruiting but recruiting depth is hard. Why would someone who is likely to be a fringe player go to Natte when he knows he'll get a game at Rovers, Bushy, Dunolly or Talbot without any problems?

Natte can get the top end players, but depth players is another story.

Trying harder is not the problem. And employment? Maryborough has the highest unemployment rate in Victoria. As far as farms go, there is a draught at the moment but it was a good suggestion.

Trying to get a Ballarat player to Natte would be tough work. They drive past close to 10 footy ovals on the way to the game or training.
 
layzerman said:
I think most people wouldn't mind driving an hour and a bit to play footy, most car pull anyway. I agree the league is not structured well at all. Clubs like Navarre, Natte, Lexton should be right up there i no they are miles away from town and that your Skipton's and Rokewoods and C/L will grab players around Brat but they just have to try harder. I reckon these days most recruits want a job most importantly so if u can find them employment your halfway home. Surely the farmers around there district have jobs they can offer? most of the recruits these days are uni students so alot of the work they get is a day here and a day there...
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car pull???
 
Car pull one drives one week the next week someone else drives the week after that the other drives do u understand????
 
layzerman said:
I think most people wouldn't mind driving an hour and a bit to play footy, most car pull anyway. I agree the league is not structured well at all. Clubs like Navarre, Natte, Lexton should be right up there i no they are miles away from town and that your Skipton's and Rokewoods and C/L will grab players around Brat but they just have to try harder. I reckon these days most recruits want a job most importantly so if u can find them employment your halfway home. Surely the farmers around there district have jobs they can offer? most of the recruits these days are uni students so alot of the work they get is a day here and a day there...
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Try Harder :D

It took me over an hour to get to Natte to watch CL play them. I can't see many people wanting to travel that far from Ballarat when there are 15-20 clubs within 30 minutes of the town. Time spent in the car is time wasted regardless of who is driving.
 
Thoroughbred said:
An hour and a bit to training makes a long night. 1 hour travel each way with a 2hr session in the middle makes for a very long day.

I'll tell you that Natte are very aggressive in their recruiting but recruiting depth is hard. Why would someone who is likely to be a fringe player go to Natte when he knows he'll get a game at Rovers, Bushy, Dunolly or Talbot without any problems?

Natte can get the top end players, but depth players is another story.

Trying harder is not the problem. And employment? Maryborough has the highest unemployment rate in Victoria. As far as farms go, there is a draught at the moment but it was a good suggestion.

Trying to get a Ballarat player to Natte would be tough work. They drive past close to 10 footy ovals on the way to the game or training.
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Well the move seems to be paying divedends for you guys!;)
 
Couple of points to make.
1. Ive bben on recruiting committees and everyone knows you have to talk to 50 blokes to get 3 good players. Lexton etc would be trying just as hard as any other club to lure players but weather you admit it or not would be on half the budget of your club.
2. Any suggestion made about restructuring leagues should involve the LPFL MDFL & MCDFL as i have stated before the CHFL will not be messing with the structure they have. On the MCDFL it is in a similar position to the LPFL with too many teams drawing players from Maryborough. Trentham, Bushy & a couple of others are so far away from a flag that they'll find it hard to hang on for that long. If anyone on here is in a position at league level please don't leave it too late
 
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