Speculation Liam Baker [reportedly headed west]

[Jeremias]

Time for some house cleaning.

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We will use thread bans and infractions if necessary.

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

It will work out in the end

Just not like that

 

[Barrybran]

They still wouldn't do that deal without something else coming back. It's horrific.

On paper, I agree with you, however Richmond are looking like having picks 1, 6, 10, 18, 20, 24 + 32 before the Baker trade and any other shenanigans involving Gold Coast's picks. I can't see Richmond's list manager being stuck on drawing full value for all players but rather making sure they can hit their targets with such a loaded hand.

 

[JackOutback]

I just have to laugh at the continued VFL narrative that the Bulldogs have to accept whatever they get from Geelong as they have no power over an uncontracted Bailey Smith

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. But West Coast has to satisfy Richmond to get an uncontracted Liam Baker

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Liam Baker

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Also, we should accept whatever the Hawks offer because a contracted Tom Barrass

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clearly wants out.

I hope this is the year West Coast grow a spine and play hardball:

 

[tiger_tough]

On paper, I agree with you, however Richmond are looking like having picks 1, 6, 10, 18, 20, 24 + 32 before the Baker trade and any other shenanigans involving Gold Coast's picks. I can't see Richmond's list manager being stuck on drawing full value for all players but rather making sure they can hit their targets with such a loaded hand.

I expect our list manager to do both of those things.

 

[tiger_tough]

I just have to laugh at the continued VFL narrative that the Bulldogs have to accept whatever they get from Geelong as they have no power over an uncontracted Bailey Smith. But West Coast has to satisfy Richmond to get an uncontracted Liam Baker.

Also, we should accept whatever the Hawks offer because a contracted Tom Barrass clearly wants out.

I hope this is the year West Coast grow a spine and play hardball:

ViC B1@S

 

[tiger_tough]

Pick 3 potentially involved according to Matt Clarke...

 

[stallon]

Pick 3 potentially involved according to Matt Clarke...

Tigers interest in pick 3 is real then, they want 2 of the top mids.
He didn't really say anything we didn't at least strongly suspect already

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Pick 3 potentially involved according to Matt Clarke...

Massive for the Tigers if they split pick 3.

 

[tiger_tough]

Tigers interest in pick 3 is real then, they want 2 of the top mids.
He didn't really say anything we didn't at least strongly suspect already

Massive for the Tigers if they split pick 3.

I reckon we'll end up with pick 2 or pick 3. Doubtful we target both.

North said earlier they're open to trading back from 2 but only a few spots. Given that Eagles, North and Crows have all said they're open to splitting their pick that really only leaves us or potentially Dees in the frame for it.

 

[Daka]

Done deal.
Currently pick 14, which will end up being pick 17 for Baker

Exactly that's about right Baker 2nd round pick is too low and close to the top 10 is too high.

 

[Barrybran]

Pick 3 potentially involved according to Matt Clarke...

Sounds like we've spoken to multiple clubs about pick 3

 

[Barrybran]

Exactly that's about right Baker 2nd round pick is too low and close to the top 10 is too high.

No, 14 is ridiculous. That pick is still getting the 14th best kid available.

 

[tiger_tough]

Sounds like we've spoken to multiple clubs about pick 3

No doubt.

 

[Daka]

No, 14 is ridiculous. That pick is still getting the 14th best kid available.

But But... Barrass is worth more than 14 who is 29 years old.

 

[Barrybran]

But But... Barrass is worth more than 14 who is 29 years old.

Barrass is one of the best KPD's in the comp. Baker, while a very good player himself, is a role player. So yes, Barrass, despite being two years older, is indeed worth more than Baker.

 

[Daka]

Barrass is one of the best KPD's in the comp. Baker, while a very good player himself, is a role player. So yes, Barrass, despite being two years older, is indeed worth more than Baker.

Tom Barrass never been AA. big call to call to call him one of the best defenders in the comp with a broken down back.

 

[the_interloper]

No, 14 is ridiculous. That pick is still getting the 14th best kid available.

Wow what insight!

 

[amazingjoshy]

But But... Barrass is worth more than 14 who is 29 years old.

and a much better player

 

[Danog]

Tom Barrass never been AA. big call to call to call him one of the best defenders in the comp with a broken down back.

This. Maybe I've got some bias because I don't tend to watch every West Coast game, but every memory I have of Barrass includes Jack Riewoldt toweling him up.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Pick 3 potentially involved according to Matt Clarke...

But I though this was done for pick 14?

 

[tiger_tough]

But I though this was done for pick 14?

 

[Jupes]

But But... Barrass is worth more than 14 who is 29 years old.

KPP market. reminder that the highest paid player in the comp is mac andrew haha.

 

[Lia]

This. Maybe I've got some bias because I don't tend to watch every West Coast game, but every memory I have of Barrass includes Jack Riewoldt toweling him up.

He did have a shocker in that 2019 game of the year, was fresh back from injury though if I remember correctly.