Lost - season 6 Thread 2

[timtamWB]

Damon revealed that one of the show's biggest questions—who was on the outrigger—was actually written, but the writers decided that "it was a cool answer but what's cooler is to not answer it…

Yep, nailed it lol

The reasoning for this and the way he's said it sounds extremely douchey, but I like it. It lets you speculate on who could be there, they did it with a few of the mysteries, and I spent countless hours reading fan theories and discussing mysteries online.

Also, for anyone who thinks they were dead the entire time, you're an idiot and you should have your technological rights stripped from you.

 

[Gasometer]

The reasoning for this and the way he's said it sounds extremely douchey, but I like it. It lets you speculate on who could be there, they did it with a few of the mysteries, and I spent countless hours reading fan theories and discussing mysteries online.

Also, for anyone who thinks they were dead the entire time, you're an idiot and you should have your technological rights stripped from you.

Hear hear...it was it was, gtfo over it...and those who define a show based on the last 10 minutes are idiots as well.

 

[bourbons]

Not just the last 10 minutes. Most of the last season was horseshit, I like to pretend it ended after season 5 when they blew the nuke.

I just have no time for writers who base the entire show on a bunch of mysteries and then don't bother to (even superficially) explain them. They might like to pretend that was the plan all along or 'no answer is cooler' but I call BS. Its lazy, cheap and to the point of disrespecting and deceiving their fan base.

At this point I flat-out don't believe Lindelof that the outrigger stuff was written. I'll happily admit I was wrong if it ever materialises as he hinted in that article, I wouldn't hold your breath though.

 

[timtamWB]

Not just the last 10 minutes. Most of the last season was horseshit, I like to pretend it ended after season 5 when they blew the nuke.

I just have no time for writers who base the entire show on a bunch of mysteries and then don't bother to (even superficially) explain them. They might like to pretend that was the plan all along or 'no answer is cooler' but I call BS. Its lazy, cheap and to the point of disrespecting and deceiving their fan base.

At this point I flat-out don't believe Lindelof that the outrigger stuff was written. I'll happily admit I was wrong if it ever materialises as he hinted in that article, I wouldn't hold your breath though.

What mystery that the plot was based on did Lost not explain? Anything that was essential to the plot was explained.

 

[bourbons]

What mystery that the plot was based on did Lost not explain? Anything that was essential to the plot was explained.

What plot was there other than a series of mysteries, weird happenings and some vague musings on fate vs free will?

Anyway, main one would be what was jacob tyring to achieve.

Also

- what was so special about Walt
- what was DHARMA trying to achieve
- what were the 'others' trying to achieve (lists, brainwashing etc.)
- the outrigger stuff (who was shooting at them and why)

I get the feeling you would consider the latter ones not essential to the plot, I don't agree. They were major factors in the character motivations/actions that shaped the plot.

That's just what I could think of in 5 minutes off the top of my head 5 years after the show has finished, there are a heap more.

 

[timtamWB]

What plot was there other than a series of mysteries, weird happenings and some vague musings on fate vs free will?

Anyway, main one would be what was jacob tyring to achieve.

Also

- what was so special about Walt
- what was DHARMA trying to achieve
- what were the 'others' trying to achieve (lists, brainwashing etc.)
- the outrigger stuff (who was shooting at them and why)

I get the feeling you would consider the latter ones not essential to the plot, I don't agree. They were major factors in the character motivations/actions that shaped the plot.

That's just what I could think of in 5 minutes off the top of my head 5 years after the show has finished, there are a heap more.

I forgot about Walt, I'll give you that one. I always just assumed he was special because he had a special connection with the island somehow.

The others were following orders from Jacob, who was the protector of the island, who wanted to die and needed to find a new protector. The others established their own sort of "cult" with their own rules.

DHARMA was trying to manipulate the laws of science and thought the island held the key to that. If you look further into it, it was explained they're trying to change one of the numbers in the Valenzetti equation, which was believed to mark the date of the end of the humanity, in order to change that date.

And I don't believe the outrigger was that essential to the plot.

Either way I like the fact that it wasn't all laid out in black and white, it lets you think and interpret it your own way and come up with your own theories. That to me was the beauty of Lost, it wasn't just "This is what happened and here's why." It's "This is what happened, but why did it happen?" They let you figure it out.

 

[bourbons]

Pretty vague stuff. Why does the island need a protector?

Anyway I can see what you mean and it's a valid point of view. I didn't necessarily want everything explained, just a fair bit more than they ended up giving us. Each to their own.

 

[Gasometer]

^ all good questions that after all these years I have forgotten the answer to.....

 

[Kong]

^yeah pretty weird. Its even a line in the finale, "some died far after" or something like that.

Re: the link, I did read it but it only re-affirms my disinterest in anything those assclowns have to say on the matter. For example;



. Seriously.



Yep, nailed it lol

Reminds me a lot of Scott Buck, the guy that took over Dexter for Season 5 and completely shifted the goal posts from "Will Dexter get caught?" to "Let's make Dexter more human".

Idiots.

 

[Dont be a lemon]

Show lost it's way when they introduced time travel and eventually jumped forward three years in everybody's lives. It was fun but disjointing from what the show had been before that. Flashforwards also contributed to this a bit.

Season 1 was plane crash-day 44 plus flashbacks.

Season 2 was day 44-day 67 plus flashbacks.

Season 3 was day 68-day 91 plus flashbacks.

Season 4 was day 91-day 108. Flashforwards they do now which is weird but fun.

Season 5 SZHOOOM all over the place. The extras from the plane get killed off, half the main characters leave the island and the remaining half go a time travelling adventure before the story eventually settles with everyone having lived 3 years either on or off the island.

Season 6 half set pointlessly in the afterlife with a ton of equally pointless red herrings.

 

[Gasometer]

Show lost it's way when they introduced time travel and eventually jumped forward three years in everybody's lives. It was fun but disjointing from what the show had been before that. Flashforwards also contributed to this a bit.

Season 1 was plane crash-day 44 plus flashbacks.

Season 2 was day 44-day 67 plus flashbacks.

Season 3 was day 68-day 91 plus flashbacks.

Season 4 was day 91-day 108. Flashforwards they do now which is weird but fun.

Season 5 SZHOOOM all over the place. The extras from the plane get killed off, half the main characters leave the island and the remaining half go a time travelling adventure before the story eventually settles with everyone having lived 3 years either on or off the island.

Season 6 half set pointlessly in the afterlife with a ton of equally pointless red herrings.

People switched off after Season 2 because they weren't getting the answers.

Only the diehards lasted the distance.

Here's an example from 2007

http://intensities.wordpress.com/20...asons-why-im-rapidly-losing-interest-in-lost/

and here's some BF thoughts...I still stand by the fact that Season 3 turned the show upside down and for the better...the Season 3 finale was awesome.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/lost-season-3.387552/

 

[Ochre]

http://intensities.wordpress.com/20...asons-why-im-rapidly-losing-interest-in-lost/

Heroes. I’m extremely late to this show–busy on Monday nights and I couldn’t find a good download–but since a friend burned me a DVD of the first eleven episodes, I’m totally hooked, and it’s mostly for the same reasons that I was initially grabbed by LOST. It’s got a lot of the same appeal–diverse ensemble cast, can’t-wait-till-next-week mysteries and revelations, spellbinding set pieces and action sequences–but it feels much fresher than LOST does now, and it’s still in a stage where not explaining everything is still acceptable and even preferable. Supposedly the creators have a five-year plan for the show already mapped out, too, so here’s hoping I’m not making the same complaints about it two seasons from now.

Lewl.

 

[Ochre]

That said, the first season of Heroes was very good, and the writers strike was what ruined it

 

[Dont be a lemon]

What ruined Heroes was pressing the reset button at the end of each season. And every character coming back from the dead.

 

[Hawthorn United]

For me, it was Sylar taking so many powers that he was indestructible.

 

[SM]

Not sure where else to post it but there's a brilliant documentary out for the 20th anniversary of the show called Getting Lost. It's available to purchase for a week and you get 24 hours to watch it once you start. Really great watch and delves into a lot of different aspects of the production.

 

[Gasometer]

Not sure where else to post it but there's a brilliant documentary out for the 20th anniversary of the show called Getting Lost. It's available to purchase for a week and you get 24 hours to watch it once you start. Really great watch and delves into a lot of different aspects of the production.

Damn; who where and what!!!

 

[Gasometer]

Omg this looks so cool!

I feel like I need to take a sickie right now to watch it

 

[Gasometer]

And where did 20 years go?

And tf there’s an heir at last with “From”

 

[Gasometer]

Not sure where else to post it but there's a brilliant documentary out for the 20th anniversary of the show called Getting Lost. It's available to purchase for a week and you get 24 hours to watch it once you start. Really great watch and delves into a lot of different aspects of the production.

Matthew Fox in it?

 

[SM]

Matthew Fox in it?

Sadly he seems just about the only one not in it.

 

[Mentallo]

Not available on the high seas just yet, Arrrrrrrr.

 

[Mentallo]

Not available on the high seas just yet, Arrrrrrrr.

BUMP
(and quoting myself)

Took my ship out this evening and Arrrrrrr guess what I discovered....

 

[SM]

BUMP
(and quoting myself)

Took my ship out this evening and Arrrrrrr guess what I discovered....

Hope you enjoy it! I really liked all the angles it covered.

 

[Mentallo]

Hope you enjoy it! I really liked all the angles it covered.

Yet to watch it. Will do so on my days off next week.
Really looking forward to it I must say.