Current Lucy Letby - Paediatric nurse in the UK charged with the murder of 8 babies * CONVICTED

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Yes the prosecution were intimating she was killing to get sympathy from her boyfriend doctor.
Her parents need to back off as well. They made campaigners of themselves in the court room.
The Daily Fail has a long and detailed article which I'm going through. There is one mention of potentially doing a post mortem but it's not clear if this is a hospital or coronial one. The words coroner or coronial are not in the article. Dr A, her lover & fool seems an unintentional helper.
Full timeline of horrific crimes Lucy Letby committed
 
I read in one case the a doctor deemed that the death did not need to be referred to the coroner and blamed it on a the fact the child was premmie and this was the cause of death. That doc publicly apologised in the stands to the parents for not recommending the coroner.

Can you even imagine being a,grieving parent believing your baby died because it was prem then having police turn up a few years later to inform you that it was possibly a murder……bloody awful


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What a despicable human. A wolf (murderer) in sheep’s (nurse) clothing.
Will die in Gaol.

She will possibly have 40-50 years to rot behind bars. Still pretty young.

My heart goes out to all those families who had their babies heinously taken from them.
 
The victim impact statements were heartbreaking . My grandson spent 6months from birth in NICU and PICU having 2 open ️ surgeries……..his little life was in their hands…..it would have been so easy for someone to tamper with the equipment keeping him alive. We are so lucky to have him alive and being a typical 6 year old unlike those poor families whose babies were murdered at the COCH.


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The victim impact statements were heartbreaking . My grandson spent 6months from birth in NICU and PICU having 2 open ️ surgeries……..his little life was in their hands…..it would have been so easy for someone to tamper with the equipment keeping him alive. We are so lucky to have him alive and being a typical 6 year old unlike those poor families whose babies were murdered at the COCH.


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She didn't listen to the victim inpact statements because she refused to becin the courtroom which is still allowed.
Meanwhile Tony Chambers, the chief executive at the time, who threatened doctors with a referral to the diciplinary board and made doctors write a letter of apology, took a $1 million bonus and is still employed in the same role at other hospitals.
 
Is the Mail's podcast on this case any good?


 

The alleged fraud and fake Prof. who presents this youtube is this deranged ****wit.

Are you a fan of his utility?


'Edward Croft Dutton (1980–) is a far-right eccentric English Youtuber grifter,[note 1] QAnon conspiracy theorist,[note 2] anti-vegan, and transphobe who writes articles for the white nationalist site VDARE and The Unz Review plus is a regular speaker on Mark Collett's white supremacist podcast Patriotic Weekly Review.[3][4][5][6] He is a disgraced academic and pseudointellectual who was investigated by the University of Oulo and found guilty of scientific misconduct due to plagiarism.[7] He is pretentious and claims to be a Professor of Evolutionary Psychology at Asbiro University despite this being questionable at best. Critics label him a fraud.[8]

Dutton's views include eugenics, climate change denial,[9] race and intelligence pseudoscience, sexism, anti-feminism, transphobia, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, anti-veganism, and white supremacy.[10][11] He has been accused of sympathising with terrorism for comments he made on a neo-Nazi podcast.[12] He is ex-editor-in-chief of the journal Mankind Quarterly and calls himself the Jolly Heretic on social media.[13][14] Dutton has a degree in Theology from Durham University and a PhD in religious studies from the University of Aberdeen.[15]

Dutton claims to be a proponent of freedom of speech and thinks there should be no censorship in science, writing: "If someone forcefully insists that a certain area is out of bounds and you’re ‘immoral’ for even contemplating it, then that is where new discoveries are going to lie."[16] The problem is he's a huge hypocrite. For example, he deletes any comments left on his YouTube videos that merely criticise him or his colleague Michael A. Woodley.

Unlike his closet racist associates such as Michael Woodley, Emil Kirkegaard, Nathan Cofnas, and Noah Carl,[note 3] Dutton is more open about his racist beliefs. He has regular friendly podcasts and public discussions with alt-right, neo-Nazi, and/or white supremacist outlets. In late 2020, he was the main guest of a podcast run by neo-nazi and white supremacist Richard Spencer on the topic "Making Sense of Race".[17]

Dutton promotes the pseudoscientific spiteful mutant hypothesis and a ridiculous fad diet known as the carnivore diet. He attacks liberals, vegetarians, vegans, homosexuals, transexuals, and people who dye their hair as "mentally ill" mutants. He is also a supporter of the white nationalist group Patriotic Alternative that promotes "White Lives Matter" banners around the UK.[18] In November 2022, Dutton began defending Graham Hancock's pseudoarchaeological theories including belief in Atlantis as an advanced culture saying he is "open-minded" and does not consider Hancock to be a pseudoarchaeologist.[19]

Dutton charges $147 to enroll on an online course in sociobiology at a fake (non-accredited) university named GegenUni.[20] Other bogus "lecturers" at the fake university include white nationalist Martin Sellner.[21]

Openly a eugenicist, Dutton's main reason for supporting abortion is his claim women who have abortions are less intelligent (on average) than women who do not.[22]

A disturbed individual, Dutton will often dress up and impersonate an autistic, disabled, feminist, homosexual or transexual person in his BitChute videos just to attack and mock them.
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What annoys me are articles like these that say she will have a 'cushy cell' and be lucky enough to be able to ' pet a rabbit and birds and buy clothes from the prison shop.'
The prison staff don't need to deal with psycho prisoners going mental all day . They need prisoners to have some sort of calmness
The general public have no idea what one day in prison is like and what it is like to be denied liberty.
Letby's life will be totally shit, living with psychopaths that want to kill her. She will be intimidated , threatened and probably bashed at some point.
There is no way she will have a cushy life.
Locking her up forever is all you can do.

 
Sounds like more arse covering, trying to avoid liability, and not setting a precedent for inquiries with Statutory powers to summon evidence and force witnesses testify on anything related to the NHS or Government in general.

If the same happened here in Australia in any State or Territory, would the same toothless type of inquiry be used too, or would a Royal Commission powers one be a sure bet?

'The Observer view: only a robust inquiry will hold NHS to account over Lucy Letby murders

Observer editorial
Families need answers from the trust that allowed preventable deaths to happen
Sun 20 Aug 2023 04.32 AEST

The murder of premature babies in their first few weeks of life by a medical professional is impossible to make sense of. But this is the crime of which Lucy Letby, a nurse in the neonatal unit at the Countess of Chester hospital, was last week convicted in relation to a number of vulnerable infants entrusted to her care. They were utterly dependent on the clinical staff in that unit. But Letby murdered seven babies, attacking some multiple times before she succeeded in killing them. She has also been convicted of the attempted murder of another six, two of whom have been left with brain damage as a result.

This makes Letby Britain’s worst child killer of modern times. She used a variety of means on her victims, including administering fatal injections of air, poisoning with insulin, overfeeding with milk and tampering with feeding tubes. The police have now begun the task of investigating the records of more than 4,000 babies across two hospitals whose care may have been tampered with by Letby. The critical question that needs answering now the criminal trial is concluded is how she was able to get away with these crimes over the course of more than a year and why some of these murders were not prevented after senior clinicians repeatedly raised red flags about their suspicions. A full assessment of how their babies were fatally let down by the system is the very least the families are owed.

The government has announced an independent inquiry into how the Letby murders were handled by the Countess of Chester hospital, but has so far declined to put it on a statutory footing. This is not good enough. The criminal trial and the reporting around it have highlighted evidence of grievous failings by the NHS trust that runs the hospital, but no one from hospital management was required to give evidence in the trial. It is of vital importance a statutory inquiry is given the power to summon evidence and force witnesses to testify, to examine not just the actions of the trust and its employees but other agencies involved in the events that unfolded, including the Care Quality Commission.

The hospital took a full year to remove Lucy Letby from the neonatal unit after suspicions were first raised
In particular, the inquiry must ask why no investigation into these unexplained baby deaths was ordered by hospital management until July 2016, more than a year after doctors first raised concerns. Two reviews in the second half of 2016, one by the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health and the second by a premature baby expert, recommended a thorough external independent review of each neonatal death and further forensic investigation; neither of these things happened. The senior management team did not keep the trust’s board informed of the findings of the reviews that had both called for further investigation; minutes show executives said the reviews concluded the issues were down to the unit’s leadership and timely intervention.

The hospital took a full year to remove Letby from the neonatal unit after suspicions were first raised, and members of its senior executive team are alleged to have claimed that the two reviews cleared Letby and said they would be moving her back to frontline work on the neonatal ward. In the interim, she was moved to the hospital’s risk and patient safety office where, despite the fact she was under suspicion of being associated with unexplained infant deaths, her role included raising serious incident investigation reports to the NHS.

The catalogue of failings does not stop there. It was a small group of consultant whistleblowers on the neonatal unit who played a key role in flagging their concerns; it is not clear that without them these crimes would have come to light, as the deaths were not properly reported to the NHS and so not picked up by its alert systems. Yet they were treated appallingly by hospital management: their calls for urgent meetings went unheeded; their concerns were treated dismissively and they say that once management had decided Letby should return to her post in 2017, two of them were instructed to enter a mediation process with her. They were warned her father had threatened to refer them to the General Medical Council unless they withdrew their allegations and were asked to write a letter of apology to her. The medical director who started in 2018, and who later became the chief executive of the trust, says she was warned by her predecessor that she would need to pursue action with the GMC against the whistleblowers (something he denies).

What we know so far about this truly awful case throws up familiar themes that crop up again and again in scandals that have in recent years beset failing NHS trusts, from mid-Staffs where hundreds died as a result of poor care at Stafford hospital, to the several maternity scandals that have emerged. Defensiveness in management culture; appallingly punitive treatment of whistleblowers; prioritisation of the reputation of a hospital over patient safety and dignity: the evil acts of Letby may thankfully be “exceedingly rare”, according to experts, but we have seen time and again how these toxic cultures produce avoidable deaths, injury and heartache for patients and families. In this case, it seems highly likely that failings by this hospital contributed to the preventable murder of babies. That would be a devastating verdict, and it is only right that the question of who is responsible and how this could have happened is handed to a statutory inquiry with the powers it needs to provide answers.
 
Sounds like more arse covering, trying to avoid liability, and not setting a precedent for inquiries with Statutory powers to summon evidence and force witnesses testify on anything related to the NHS or Government in general.

If the same happened here in Australia in any State or Territory, would the same toothless type of inquiry be used too, or would a Royal Commission powers one be a sure bet?

'The Observer view: only a robust inquiry will hold NHS to account over Lucy Letby murders

Observer editorial
Families need answers from the trust that allowed preventable deaths to happen
Sun 20 Aug 2023 04.32 AEST

The murder of premature babies in their first few weeks of life by a medical professional is impossible to make sense of. But this is the crime of which Lucy Letby, a nurse in the neonatal unit at the Countess of Chester hospital, was last week convicted in relation to a number of vulnerable infants entrusted to her care. They were utterly dependent on the clinical staff in that unit. But Letby murdered seven babies, attacking some multiple times before she succeeded in killing them. She has also been convicted of the attempted murder of another six, two of whom have been left with brain damage as a result.

This makes Letby Britain’s worst child killer of modern times. She used a variety of means on her victims, including administering fatal injections of air, poisoning with insulin, overfeeding with milk and tampering with feeding tubes. The police have now begun the task of investigating the records of more than 4,000 babies across two hospitals whose care may have been tampered with by Letby. The critical question that needs answering now the criminal trial is concluded is how she was able to get away with these crimes over the course of more than a year and why some of these murders were not prevented after senior clinicians repeatedly raised red flags about their suspicions. A full assessment of how their babies were fatally let down by the system is the very least the families are owed.

The government has announced an independent inquiry into how the Letby murders were handled by the Countess of Chester hospital, but has so far declined to put it on a statutory footing. This is not good enough. The criminal trial and the reporting around it have highlighted evidence of grievous failings by the NHS trust that runs the hospital, but no one from hospital management was required to give evidence in the trial. It is of vital importance a statutory inquiry is given the power to summon evidence and force witnesses to testify, to examine not just the actions of the trust and its employees but other agencies involved in the events that unfolded, including the Care Quality Commission.


In particular, the inquiry must ask why no investigation into these unexplained baby deaths was ordered by hospital management until July 2016, more than a year after doctors first raised concerns. Two reviews in the second half of 2016, one by the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health and the second by a premature baby expert, recommended a thorough external independent review of each neonatal death and further forensic investigation; neither of these things happened. The senior management team did not keep the trust’s board informed of the findings of the reviews that had both called for further investigation; minutes show executives said the reviews concluded the issues were down to the unit’s leadership and timely intervention.

The hospital took a full year to remove Letby from the neonatal unit after suspicions were first raised, and members of its senior executive team are alleged to have claimed that the two reviews cleared Letby and said they would be moving her back to frontline work on the neonatal ward. In the interim, she was moved to the hospital’s risk and patient safety office where, despite the fact she was under suspicion of being associated with unexplained infant deaths, her role included raising serious incident investigation reports to the NHS.

The catalogue of failings does not stop there. It was a small group of consultant whistleblowers on the neonatal unit who played a key role in flagging their concerns; it is not clear that without them these crimes would have come to light, as the deaths were not properly reported to the NHS and so not picked up by its alert systems. Yet they were treated appallingly by hospital management: their calls for urgent meetings went unheeded; their concerns were treated dismissively and they say that once management had decided Letby should return to her post in 2017, two of them were instructed to enter a mediation process with her. They were warned her father had threatened to refer them to the General Medical Council unless they withdrew their allegations and were asked to write a letter of apology to her. The medical director who started in 2018, and who later became the chief executive of the trust, says she was warned by her predecessor that she would need to pursue action with the GMC against the whistleblowers (something he denies).

What we know so far about this truly awful case throws up familiar themes that crop up again and again in scandals that have in recent years beset failing NHS trusts, from mid-Staffs where hundreds died as a result of poor care at Stafford hospital, to the several maternity scandals that have emerged. Defensiveness in management culture; appallingly punitive treatment of whistleblowers; prioritisation of the reputation of a hospital over patient safety and dignity: the evil acts of Letby may thankfully be “exceedingly rare”, according to experts, but we have seen time and again how these toxic cultures produce avoidable deaths, injury and heartache for patients and families. In this case, it seems highly likely that failings by this hospital contributed to the preventable murder of babies. That would be a devastating verdict, and it is only right that the question of who is responsible and how this could have happened is handed to a statutory inquiry with the powers it needs to provide answers.
I think they need to bring in a law that all complaints of possible negligance by staff should be referred to an external source.
This management were more concerned about the hospitals reputation than lives.
 

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She didn't listen to the victim inpact statements because she refused to becin the courtroom which is still allowed.
What complete and utter rubbish. Drag her in there kicking and screaming if you have to. Absolute bullshit and a final insult to the families.
 

Same old issue with how actual/perceived 'whistleblowers' are too often treated/managed in large organisations (public, private & NFP).

And wouldn't be surprised if internal/external legal advice played a part in the hospital management's response too.
 
What annoys me are articles like these that say she will have a 'cushy cell' and be lucky enough to be able to ' pet a rabbit and birds and buy clothes from the prison shop.'[/URL]
What they don't say is that she will be sharing that cell with Rosemary West and will be served meals with human excrement added like the late Bobby Sands.


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Sorry I have not followed this case at all- is there any motive at all for this??

Letby, who was accused by prosecutors of “getting a thrill” out of murdering babies and “playing God” with those placed in her care, carried out her deadly spree in the neonatal unit at the Countess of Chester Hospital in northwest England between June 2015 and June 2016.

She nearly killed the same family’s second son the following day by injecting insulin into a nutrition bag. He survived.


Prosecutors described Letby as an “opportunist” who had targeted sick children and accused her of killing one infant simply because she wanted to get the attention of a doctor she liked.
 
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The alleged fraud and fake Prof. who presents this youtube is this deranged *******.

Are you a fan of his utility?


'Edward Croft Dutton (1980–) is a far-right eccentric English Youtuber grifter,[note 1] QAnon conspiracy theorist,[note 2] anti-vegan, and transphobe who writes articles for the white nationalist site VDARE and The Unz Review plus is a regular speaker on Mark Collett's white supremacist podcast Patriotic Weekly Review.[3][4][5][6] He is a disgraced academic and pseudointellectual who was investigated by the University of Oulo and found guilty of scientific misconduct due to plagiarism.[7] He is pretentious and claims to be a Professor of Evolutionary Psychology at Asbiro University despite this being questionable at best. Critics label him a fraud.[8]

Dutton's views include eugenics, climate change denial,[9] race and intelligence pseudoscience, sexism, anti-feminism, transphobia, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, anti-veganism, and white supremacy.[10][11] He has been accused of sympathising with terrorism for comments he made on a neo-Nazi podcast.[12] He is ex-editor-in-chief of the journal Mankind Quarterly and calls himself the Jolly Heretic on social media.[13][14] Dutton has a degree in Theology from Durham University and a PhD in religious studies from the University of Aberdeen.[15]

Dutton claims to be a proponent of freedom of speech and thinks there should be no censorship in science, writing: "If someone forcefully insists that a certain area is out of bounds and you’re ‘immoral’ for even contemplating it, then that is where new discoveries are going to lie."[16] The problem is he's a huge hypocrite. For example, he deletes any comments left on his YouTube videos that merely criticise him or his colleague Michael A. Woodley.

Unlike his closet racist associates such as Michael Woodley, Emil Kirkegaard, Nathan Cofnas, and Noah Carl,[note 3] Dutton is more open about his racist beliefs. He has regular friendly podcasts and public discussions with alt-right, neo-Nazi, and/or white supremacist outlets. In late 2020, he was the main guest of a podcast run by neo-nazi and white supremacist Richard Spencer on the topic "Making Sense of Race".[17]

Dutton promotes the pseudoscientific spiteful mutant hypothesis and a ridiculous fad diet known as the carnivore diet. He attacks liberals, vegetarians, vegans, homosexuals, transexuals, and people who dye their hair as "mentally ill" mutants. He is also a supporter of the white nationalist group Patriotic Alternative that promotes "White Lives Matter" banners around the UK.[18] In November 2022, Dutton began defending Graham Hancock's pseudoarchaeological theories including belief in Atlantis as an advanced culture saying he is "open-minded" and does not consider Hancock to be a pseudoarchaeologist.[19]

Dutton charges $147 to enroll on an online course in sociobiology at a fake (non-accredited) university named GegenUni.[20] Other bogus "lecturers" at the fake university include white nationalist Martin Sellner.[21]

Openly a eugenicist, Dutton's main reason for supporting abortion is his claim women who have abortions are less intelligent (on average) than women who do not.[22]

A disturbed individual, Dutton will often dress up and impersonate an autistic, disabled, feminist, homosexual or transexual person in his BitChute videos just to attack and mock them.
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Ok boomer.
 
If only they could blame or attribute all the deaths and injuries to natural causes only, then the hospital, it’s managers, the NHS and it’s gatekeepers would severly reduce their legal, reputational or professional risk and liability whatsoever.

Little wonder that lots of ppl were told to STFU, threatened and forced/coerced into apologising for raising legitimate issues.
 

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