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You Freo guys are funny.If this is Season 2 and Hogan was Season 1, I can't wait for Season 3 when JVR wants to come home.
Sold us a lemonYou Freo guys are funny.
From a Melb point of view I hope it's true. We did great out of that Hogan trade.
I will say 5 for a total $3.5mAnother example of someone who shoots someone down without putting their name next to an actual figure. what a comfy position to be in
Fun Facts: Sean Darcy has never laid 9 tackles in his whole career. Jackson did it in his first game as solo ruck. lol.Every Freo supporter acting like he was absolute garbage this year. This year compared to 2021 he almost doubled per game his tackles, centre clearances, inside 50s, whilst also making great improvements in stoppage clearances, intercepts, and cutting down on turnovers. It might be irrelevant because he's going to be playing with Darcy but his one game playing as sole ruck vs Brisbane he was one of our best players with 21 touches and 9 tackles showcasing the strides he has made. He was battling a knee injury in the second half of the year and the shorter pre season combined with the loss of our fitness boss lead to a lot of our players running out of gas by the end of the year which I believe Jacko was a culprit of.
Fun Fact: A ruck's main purpose is to ruck.Fun Facts: Sean Darcy has never laid 9 tackles in his whole career. Jackson did it in his first game as solo ruck. lol.
so a ruck doesn't need to mark, tackle, harass, kick goals or drop back into defence to take intercept marks?Fun Fact: A ruck's main purpose is to ruck.
And if a ruck does all of those things but is below average in every single ruck statistic are they a good ruck?so a ruck doesn't need to mark, tackle, harass, kick goals or drop back into defence to take intercept marks?
lol, yeah ok.
And if a ruck does all of those things but is below average in every single ruck statistic are they a good ruck?
LJ 3.0 marks per game. Darcy 2.5 marks per game. +0.5
LJ 3.7 tackles per game. Darcy 2.8 tackles per game. +0.9
LJ 0.5 goals per game. Darcy 0.5 goals per game. =
LJ 2.1 intercepts per game. Darcy 2.3 intercepts per game. -0.2
Now considering one plays the full game as the main ruck while the other plays second ruck, you'd expect these stats to be a lot different.
Let's look at ACTUAL ruck stats.
LJ 2.4 clearances per game. Darcy 4.5 clearances per game. -2.1
LJ 11.0 hitouts per game. Darcy 33.9 hitouts per game. -22.9
LJ 3.2 hitouts to advantage per game. Darcy 11.3 hitouts to advantage per game. -8.1
But you're right. That's not fair. LJ played second ruck so those stats aren't comparable. Let's find something that is.
LJ 33.2% hitouts won. Darcy 53.4% hitouts won. -20.2%
LJ 28.8% hitouts won. Darcy 33.3% hitouts won. -4.5%
So from what I can see, Darcy and LJ are actually very similar in all those aspects you mentioned, with Darcy FAR superior in actual ruck statistics. You get one more tackle from LJ a game. You get one more mark from LJ every second game. For someone who spends more than half his game playing a position that's not main ruck, I think you'd expect a lot more.
This is going to be so simple to pull apart but meh, lets do it anyway. This is comparing Sean Darcy's 3rd season vs Jackson's 3rd season.And if a ruck does all of those things but is below average in every single ruck statistic are they a good ruck?
LJ 3.0 marks per game. Darcy 2.5 marks per game. +0.5
LJ 3.7 tackles per game. Darcy 2.8 tackles per game. +0.9
LJ 0.5 goals per game. Darcy 0.5 goals per game. =
LJ 2.1 intercepts per game. Darcy 2.3 intercepts per game. -0.2
Now considering one plays the full game as the main ruck while the other plays second ruck, you'd expect these stats to be a lot different.
Let's look at ACTUAL ruck stats.
LJ 2.4 clearances per game. Darcy 4.5 clearances per game. -2.1
LJ 11.0 hitouts per game. Darcy 33.9 hitouts per game. -22.9
LJ 3.2 hitouts to advantage per game. Darcy 11.3 hitouts to advantage per game. -8.1
But you're right. That's not fair. LJ played second ruck so those stats aren't comparable. Let's find something that is.
LJ 33.2% hitouts won. Darcy 53.4% hitouts won. -20.2%
LJ 28.8% hitouts to adv won. Darcy 33.3% hitouts to adv won. -4.5%
So from what I can see, Darcy and LJ are actually very similar in all those aspects you mentioned, with Darcy FAR superior in actual ruck statistics. You get one more tackle from LJ a game. You get one more mark from LJ every second game. For someone who spends more than half his game playing a position that's not main ruck, I think you'd expect a lot more.
This is going to be so simple to pull apart but meh, lets do it anyway. This is comparing Sean Darcy's 3rd season vs Jackson's 3rd season.
Sean Darcy and Luke Jackson AFL Stats Comparison
Jackson beats Darcy in kicks, handballs, disposals, marks, goals, tackles, inside 50's, goal assists, contested possessions, effective disposals, disposal efficiency (Darcy 60% yuck), Contested marks, Centre Clearances, Score involvements, Metres gained, intercepts and has less clangers and less turnovers. 18 stats in total.
Darcy beats Jackson in: hitouts, clearances, marks i50, reb 50's, one %ers, stoppage clearances. 6 stats in total.
Here is the kicker: This is with Darcy being solo ruck and Jackson rucking behind Gawn. And another kicker, Darcy playing an extra 12% game time. Reverse these roles and Jackson eclipses Darcy in every single stat out there excluding a few hitouts.
Let's say we double Jacksons hitouts total to reflect him being a solo ruck, he goes from 11 to 22. Only 5 less than Darcy with hitouts being his only real draw card.
A nice little stat here for you too. Darcy averaged more hitouts in his debut season than he is now. What a great rate of improvement
The prosecution rests.
Try that on for size King Huskii
I look forward to the replies. Don't deflect
Darcy broke the record for the most hit outs on debut.Fun Facts: Sean Darcy has never laid 9 tackles in his whole career. Jackson did it in his first game as solo ruck. lol.
Hogan has been good everywhere but Freo, don’t know who’s fault that is?Sold us a lemon
Hogan has been good everywhere but Freo, don’t know who’s fault that is?
Interesting how dees wanna hold freo over a barrel for Jackson but are happy to take Grundy for pick 27. I get the circumstances but I think they need to be a bit more reasonable.
Yeah, I'm not denying he doesn't get plenty of hitouts. The reality is he got more hitouts in his debut season then he does now. He developed early. He was still 110kg in his first season I would've thought.Darcy broke the record for the most hit outs on debut.
Interesting how dees wanna hold freo over a barrel for Jackson but are happy to take Grundy for pick 27. I get the circumstances but I think they need to be a bit more reasonable.
I think it’s still a lot more than WC can afford so it is enough.I think freo’s two firsts is at the lowest end of reasonable.
This all goes back to day 1 of this trade discussion where Melbourne fans said Jackson is gun ruck. Stats were shown that proved otherwise.Darcy broke the record for the most hit outs on debut.