Player Watch Luke Nankervis - Re-Signed to End of 2027

Do you think the AFC coaches will pick Luke Nankervis in Round 1?


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Another player who when I watched his 1st game just knew he would be a long-term player for us.

Pity the coaches took a while to work this out.

This is the type of talent you fast-track to 50 games.
Our coaches are farken idiots.

Taylor will be the next one to come in and everyone will be like “well what do you know, the kid can play”.

The evidence just keeps on mounting that our moron coaches couldnt spot talent sitting rightunder their nose.
 
Another player who when I watched his 1st game just knew he would be a long-term player for us.

Pity the coaches took a while to work this out.

This is the type of talent you fast-track to 50 games.

Looked at home from his first few touches. Why a legit natural like him got yo-yoed out of the side while we kept pumping games into guys that clearly don't have it is another one of the AFC's great mysteries.
 
Most of us were calling for him to be picked in 2022. And even more early last year. Took Nicks until round 19 last year to pick him.......NFI
And he only got a game then cause someone got sick on gameday.

If Nicks had his way he'd probably be in 4 career games instead of 14.
 

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Looked at home from his first few touches. Why a legit natural like him got yo-yoed out of the side while we kept pumping games into guys that clearly don't have it is another one of the AFC's great mysteries.

To be fair, once he's actually come into the side he's tended to stay there. The bigger issue is our usual brainfart for round 1. It always seems to take us several rounds each season to remember that, oh yeah, we discovered a bunch of players towards the end of last season and should probably start playing them. I swear, we do it every year.
 
He'll be in a similar boat to Nank as a talent who should've been played MUCH sooner than he was.
To be fair Taylor has had fitness and injury issues for most of his Crows tenure...A LOT OF.
2023 was virtually a wipeout coming back reportedly out of condition for the preseason and then big foot issues.

They obviously recognised his talent to extend him to 2025.
 
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To be fair, once he's actually come into the side he's tended to stay there. The bigger issue is our usual brainfart for round 1. It always seems to take us several rounds each season to remember that, oh yeah, we discovered a bunch of players towards the end of last season and should probably start playing them. I swear, we do it every year.

Nicks record in the first three rounds of the season is 4 wins and 11 losses - even worse than his overall stinky record

I wonder if that's related :think:
 
He absolutely carved up on his 360 interview tonight

Has a bit of personality

I'd forgotten that he almost didn't make the 18s Sandringham squad. Missed the email with the invitation to training. Found it months later and had to beg for a chance
Another Ogilivie drafting gem. His skinny frame was miles off AFL level when we first drafted him too. Murray, Keane and Nank have been shrewd selections in recent years.

If people are going to highlight first round misses, also realise that if any of these guys were taken in the first round you wouldn't be batting an eyelid. Talent can come from anywhere and it's about maximising every recruiting mechanism the AFL allows.
 
Another Ogilivie drafting gem. His skinny frame was miles off AFL level when we first drafted him too. Murray, Keane and Nank have been shrewd selections in recent years.

If people are going to highlight first round misses, also realise that if any of these guys were taken in the first round you wouldn't be batting an eyelid. Talent can come from anywhere and it's about maximising every recruiting mechanism the AFL allows.
Whist that is correct that talent can come from anywhere, the odds of hitting talent the closer to pick 1 you have should be greater so missing targets inside the top 10 with all the scouting media spotlight etc on the best kids should be highlighted.

With the team hitting back ended targets like they have makes you wonder had they been as on point inside the 1st round, our list might be very good right now
 
To be fair, once he's actually come into the side he's tended to stay there. The bigger issue is our usual brainfart for round 1. It always seems to take us several rounds each season to remember that, oh yeah, we discovered a bunch of players towards the end of last season and should probably start playing them. I swear, we do it every year.
We seem to erase all learning from the previous season over the summer. It always takes us 4-5 rounds to re-learn it.
 
We seem to erase all learning from the previous season over the summer. It always takes us 4-5 rounds to re-learn it.
We get seduced by the Brent Reilly types who look amazing against the traffic cones. They are great at following instructions but not so good at executing under AFL standard pressure.
 
Whist that is correct that talent can come from anywhere, the odds of hitting talent the closer to pick 1 you have should be greater so missing targets inside the top 10 with all the scouting media spotlight etc on the best kids should be highlighted.

With the team hitting back ended targets like they have makes you wonder had they been as on point inside the 1st round, our list might be very good right now
At the end of the day, do you think Sydney cares about taking Dylan Stephens with pick 5 in 2019, when they hit gold at pick 39 with Chad Warner?

Do you care if we take Worrell with pick 6 in 2019 and McAsey in the 2nd round?

Or the Hawks taking Josh Ward with pick 3, but nailing Newcombe in the MSD?

Talent can come from anywhere, it’s about maximizing those opportunities as not all first round picks will workout.
 

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Whist that is correct that talent can come from anywhere, the odds of hitting talent the closer to pick 1 you have should be greater so missing targets inside the top 10 with all the scouting media spotlight etc on the best kids should be highlighted.

With the team hitting back ended targets like they have makes you wonder had they been as on point inside the 1st round, our list might be very good right now
If we had drafted one Dawson/Rankine level player from 2015-2019 we’d look much better right now
 
At the end of the day, do you think Sydney cares about taking Dylan Stephens with pick 5 in 2019, when they hit gold at pick 39 with Chad Warner?

Do you care if we take Worrell with pick 6 in 2019 and McAsey in the 2nd round?

Or the Hawks taking Josh Ward with pick 3, but nailing Newcombe in the MSD?

Talent can come from anywhere, it’s about maximizing those opportunities as not all first round picks will workout.
Or..scary option...we nail the 1st round pick AND the later pick where the chances of nailing talent in the 1st round is greater than later rounds as you are getting one of the first picked best kids in the land
 
Or..scary option...we nail the 1st round pick AND the later pick where the chances of nailing talent in the 1st round is greater than later rounds as you are getting one of the first picked best kids in the land
You didn’t actually answer my question. No club nails every first round pick, it’s about maximizing every mechanism of recruiting.

Do you think any club cares if they miss a first round pick, but then get a quality player later in the draft?

Do you think Sydney cares that Dylan Stephens was a bust? Chad Warner was the more speculative selection who’s turned into a top 5 player in the comp, nobody can predict those circumstances.

Of course in an ideal world you want to nail every single selection, but these are 18 year olds and a lot of things can change at that age.
 
Or..scary option...we nail the 1st round pick AND the later pick where the chances of nailing talent in the 1st round is greater than later rounds as you are getting one of the first picked best kids in the land
You'd be very mistaken if you think AFL recruiters boards look the same as the media draft boards hence why often players are classed by the media as "sliders", for instance 2 SA lads were spoken about as 1st round chances at different times in Arlo Draper and Kobe Ryan especially but ended going much later and not at all even in the rookie draft. No player to my recollection we've taken in the 1st round wasn't spoken about as a 1st round possibility so no picks you'd call a real stretch especially picks taken outside the 1st 10.
 
You'd be very mistaken if you think AFL recruiters boards look the same as the media draft boards hence why often players are classed by the media as "sliders", for instance 2 SA lads were spoken about as 1st round chances at different times in Arlo Draper and Kobe Ryan especially but ended going much later and not at all even in the rookie draft. No player to my recollection we've taken in the 1st round wasn't spoken about as a 1st round possibility so no real picks you'd call a stretch especially picks taken outside the 1st 10.
Its not the point though is it. The clear point i am making to BACCS is that if they can pick the right players with later picks, the odds they should be picking the right players with higher picks is much greater so why have we missed so often in the 1st round? Forget the media then, all clubs have extensive scouting networks, watch these guys many many times and we have the national champs where the best kids get to play against each other so none of them are site unseen.

Expectation we get it right at the top end of the order is and should be much higher than getting it right with a pick in the 30's as the pool of available kids in the 1st round is at its greatest.
 
Its not the point though is it. The clear point i am making to BACCS is that if they can pick the right players with later picks, the odds they should be picking the right players with higher picks is much greater so why have we missed so often in the 1st round? Forget the media then, all clubs have extensive scouting networks, watch these guys many many times and we have the national champs where the best kids get to play against each other so none of them are site unseen.

Expectation we get it right at the top end of the order is and should be much higher than getting it right with a pick in the 30's as the pool of available kids in the 1st round is at its greatest.
It is the point. Why don’t Sydney cop it for drafting a Dylan Stephens at pick 5? Because he was always rated a top 10 selection and got Warner later, so net result is the same, they got an elite mid in that draft.

Why do we cop it so hard for McAsey when he was always a first round selection, but get no credit for Worrell at pick 30? Net result is the same, we got a very good KPD out of that draft.

Are you happy with Pedlar, Thilthorpe, Rachele, MM and Curtin as first round selections since 2020? It is not like every 1st round pick has been a bust.
 
It is the point. Why don’t Sydney cop it for drafting a Dylan Stephens at pick 5? Because he was always rated a top 10 selection and got Warner later, so net result is the same, they got an elite mid in that draft.

Why do we cop it so hard for McAsey when he was always a first round selection, but get no credit for Worrell at pick 30? Net result is the same, we got a very good KPD out of that draft.

Are you happy with Pedlar, Thilthorpe, Rachele, MM and Curtin as first round selections since 2020? It is not like every 1st round pick has been a bust.
Exactly, Hamish is on record as saying had the Sun's taken Rachele we'd likely have taken Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera so obviously our guys also rated him highly.
 
It is the point. Why don’t Sydney cop it for drafting a Dylan Stephens at pick 5? Because he was always rated a top 10 selection and got Warner later, so net result is the same, they got an elite mid in that draft.

Why do we cop it so hard for McAsey when he was always a first round selection, but get no credit for Worrell at pick 30? Net result is the same, we got a very good KPD out of that draft.

Are you happy with Pedlar, Thilthorpe, Rachele, MM and Curtin as first round selections since 2020? It is not like every 1st round pick has been a bust.
Gallucci, McHenry, Jones, Milera, McAsey represent 4 drafts where we have badly lost out at the top end and those busts are haunting us to this day as we have a shortage of top end talent in that 23-27 age group. You say Pedlar but he is at the crossroads where he might not be the player we all want him to be. MM was a father son and bid on inside the first round - by Sydney no less!! so he is a 1st round pick and probably the best of the lot.

Its really not hard to get the picture that its reasonable to expect we had done better with our 1st round picks and that we have had to rely on getting lucky with later gems has masked it to some it seems
 
We're paying the price for our poor drafting from 2016-19. 2020 isn't exactly shooting the lights out for us yet either.

Almost no one from those years is capable of playing more than a peripheral role for us (Worrell and to a lesser extent Fogarty being the exceptions).

From 2021 onwards our drafting and trading looks much better though. What needs to happen is the likes of Jones, Murphy, McHenry, Sholl, Berry and Schoenberg along with aging guys like Smith need to make way for this crop.

Put Dowling in the guts instead of Berry.

Cut down Laird's CBA's and give him more time at half back.

Bring in Taylor and get him playing Schoenberg's half forward role.

Nankervis can play up on a wing ahead of either Jones or Sholl.

Cook plays instead of McHenry.

Curtin plays half back ahead of Smith.

Rachele needs more time up the field.

Etc.
 
Gallucci, McHenry, Jones, Milera, McAsey represent 4 drafts where we have badly lost out at the top end and those busts are haunting us to this day as we have a shortage of top end talent in that 23-27 age group. You say Pedlar but he is at the crossroads where he might not be the player we all want him to be. MM was a father son and bid on inside the first round - by Sydney no less!! so he is a 1st round pick and probably the best of the lot.

Its really not hard to get the picture that its reasonable to expect we had done better with our 1st round picks and that we have had to rely on getting lucky with later gems has masked it to some it seems
Oh ok, so we are only looking at first round busts and ignoring anything else done to build a list?

It’s a wonder how Sydney have survived with first round busts like Matt Ling (2017) and Dylan Stephens (2019)… could also go back to Dean Towers (2012) or Zak Jones (2013).

Sydney have obviously had an academy which has netted them some ridiculous talent, but outside of that they’ve drafted very well with later picks. Do you think they’re doing as well right now if they don’t get a Chad Warner quality player to makeup for Dylan Stephens, or Tom McCartin with a later pick in that Ling draft?

Amartey and McLean were very late picks, but are super important to the way they’re playing this year after Buddy retired. Papley taken in the rookie draft.

If only drafting high picks was needed for a successful list build, then why were Carlton, Melbourne and Richmond so shit for a decade?
 
Oh ok, so we are only looking at first round busts and ignoring anything else done to build a list?

It’s a wonder how Sydney have survived with first round busts like Matt Ling (2017) and Dylan Stephens (2019)… could also go back to Dean Towers (2012) or Zak Jones (2013).

Sydney have obviously had an academy which has netted them some ridiculous talent, but outside of that they’ve drafted very well with later picks. Do you think they’re doing as well right now if they don’t get a Chad Warner quality player to makeup for Dylan Stephens, or Tom McCartin with a later pick in that Ling draft?

Amartey and McLean were very late picks, but are super important to the way they’re playing this year after Buddy retired. Papley taken in the rookie draft.

If only drafting high picks was needed for a successful list build, then why were Carlton, Melbourne and Richmond so shit for a decade?
How many different ways do you want to keep missing the point? - we expect that the 1st round picks we make are not busts as the earlier you pick, the greater the pool of quality kids should be there to pick. Up until 2020, our track record of drafting at the top end has been that poor we are still paying the price for it now. And for every hit we have had later in the draft, how many misses have we also had to go along with the misses at the top end.

So again, why is it hard to expect we don't fail as bad as we have done in the past when taking 1st round picks and using the argument that oh well, at least we did ok picking up talent later in the draft is cop out.
 
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How many different ways do you want to keep missing the point? - we expect that the 1st round picks we make are not busts as the earlier you pick, the greater the pool of quality kids should be there to pick. Up until 2020, our track record of drafting at the top end has been that poor we are still paying the price for it now. And for every hit we have had later in the draft, how many misses have we also had to go along with the misses at the top end.

So again, why is it hard to expect we don't fail as bad as we have done in the past when taking 1st round picks and using the argument that oh well, at least we did ok picking up talent later in the draft.
Picking up talent at any stage of the draft is important, there is no guarantee with any kid you take at 18 years of age.

Why are you ignoring that all clubs have many first round fails, but can make up for it with later picks? Lists need to be built with every mechanism available.

Do you think Sydney are in their current position if they miss with both the Stephens and Warner picks? Of course they aren’t.

Have a look through every clubs draft hauls from 2015 onwards and tell me which club nails every single high pick and doesn’t rely on later picks and trades to build their lists? https://www.draftguru.com.au/clubs/adelaide#2019
 

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