Yeah we are one of the wealthier clubs in the comp, what's a couple of thousand really? I've just got home to see all this so I don't know if it's been asked/mentioned but what was the reaction of the club? They give any indication of appealling?
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Luke Shuey 2 weeks WTF?
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I don't see the use in appealing again. The system is completely broken, and bashing our heads against it isn't going to fix it.
Although I hold some hope that bitching on the internet might.
Although I hold some hope that bitching on the internet might.
Only reaction was from Neale Daniher who was at the hearing and spoke afterwards saying that we are disapointed with the result, will have to accept the 2 weeks and will move on.
Would hope they will get together and see if there is any point going further. I think its worth a shot - the whole process just didn't make sense.
Would hope they will get together and see if there is any point going further. I think its worth a shot - the whole process just didn't make sense.
Can't believe we can't plead against a new charge. So essentially because the ******s can't grade a body part correctly, Shuey gets penalised. Should be able to plead with the one change, even if the others we were seeking didn't come off.
That word's a no-no - FS
That word's a no-no - FS
wellingham got 5
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Wellingham is only spending three weeks on the sidelines for hitting a guy high and hard and breaking his jaw. Shuey is spending two weeks on the sidelines for elbowing someone in the leg. You can add all the disclaimers you want, but that is what is happening.
Uh, what?
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The initial amount was 5 but he knew he could get 3 by pleading on the charge that was put before him. People here are pissed because we contested a groin hit and were sent away with a body shot charge. That, and the Wellingham one was the most serious case to come up this year by far.
Shuey didnt hit him in the leg he hit him very high in the groin. but regardless of that. Wellingham got 5 weeks as the interpretations from the MRP were significant enough for this. You can argue whether you think that is correct or not. But you cant argue with it being reduced to 3. It is the system, same set of rules for every player no matter what anyone tells you. You have a good record, you benefit in future, you dont, vice versa. You cannot argue with that.
not really interesting in bitching against the tribunal - the tribunal cleared barry hall to play despite belting some poor unfortunate in the guts - i.e. the tribunal isn't on our side - lets not worry ourselves with the things we can't affect and put all our energy into the things we can.
shuey needs to pull his head in - end of story - if he didn't act up - we wouldn't have this problem - they can't suspend you for something you flat out don't do - he needs to be made aware of this
shuey needs to pull his head in - end of story - if he didn't act up - we wouldn't have this problem - they can't suspend you for something you flat out don't do - he needs to be made aware of this
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Pretty well sumed up.
Shuey has a problem controlling his anger and this is the 2nd time he's been suspended this season and its simply not good enough. Last time he copped a week, missed the Lions game and IMO cost us the game, we lost by 2 points and clearly lacked his class in the midfield and in front of goal. Now he's going to miss two tough games against the Swans and Crows. Could cost us a top 2 finish.
If we can win the next two games we are serious flag contenders, we should finish top 2 if we win these two games and beating fellow top 4 sides with the players we have out would be sensational.
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Just watched the discussion on afl 360 and fox sports news.
The most classic thing was that we basically said "it's exceptional because Thomas loves to dive". It's great that the club can be honest. But it was pretty funny, trolling him hard.
It was the first time I'd seen the Lynch incident. He deserved a week.
And I agree Shuey deserved a week.
Shuey needs to pull his head in.
3 votes. T Swift.
The most classic thing was that we basically said "it's exceptional because Thomas loves to dive". It's great that the club can be honest. But it was pretty funny, trolling him hard.
It was the first time I'd seen the Lynch incident. He deserved a week.
And I agree Shuey deserved a week.
Shuey needs to pull his head in.
3 votes. T Swift.
How was Shuey's intentional and Wellingham reckless?
Shuey struck out behind him with an arm and couldn't see where he would make contact, Wellingham had the play in front of him, took his eyes off the ball and THEN jumped off the ground and broke Simpsons jaw FFS.
Shuey deserved a week, not 2.
Shuey struck out behind him with an arm and couldn't see where he would make contact, Wellingham had the play in front of him, took his eyes off the ball and THEN jumped off the ground and broke Simpsons jaw FFS.
Shuey deserved a week, not 2.
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If the eagles were really keen to push this they could get it wiped or reduced to 1. I they did want to go to the extreme of an actual court then there is no way the afl rules would hold up. The fact that shuey is not allowed to make a new early plea is ridiculous. He pleaded not guilty based on the fact he thought he hit the body and not the groin and that he did not intend to hit his groin and it was a reckless act. Now that the tribunal have said it was body, he should be allowed to take the early plea as he would no longer be claiming his action was not intentional and hence not challenging that part of the original assessment. It would probably be worth it given the high chance of success but we do have a couple miss up our sleeves to cover so probably won't bother.
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Nope.
Wellingham has a record in the VFL that they ignored and he doesn't have a record at AFL level because he's got off minor things.
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Tribunal says no. Charge was down graded from groin to body, so he hit him in the thigh.
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The MRP found that he didn't hit him in the groin - that it was body contact, so either stomach or thigh.
As such the elbow was not hard enough to warrant a suspension.
The second bit I think will see a change at the end of the year. Swan gets done for reckless tripping and his 5 year record saves him 20points, Wellingham saves him 130+ points. Not that I have a problem with Wellingham getting the discount, the rule has been there for 7 years. It's hardly a loophole.
Wouldn't be surprised that the 25% good behaviour discount gets removed for Level 4 & 5 offences next year.
Comparing to the legal system - a first time offender for stealing might get a reduced sentence for it being out of character. A first time murderer still has a mandatory sentence
He elbowed Beau Waters in the face last season, for one.
And I think that prior records shouldn't matter for shit in some cases. Just because he's never been caught doesn't mean he should get a free pass when he breaks someone's jaw.
And I think that prior records shouldn't matter for shit in some cases. Just because he's never been caught doesn't mean he should get a free pass when he breaks someone's jaw.
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Yeah but who ever heard of a player getting consideration for VFL conduct? Not me.. i think everyone would have been happy with 6 weeks downgraded to 5 with good behaviour..
The system sucks, every footballer should have the responsiblity to play fair. Special consideration shouldnt be taken into account, although i agree with carry over points for a bad record.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...-strange-tactics/story-e6frf9jf-1226423206612
So the North Melbourne Kangaroos are taking the moral high ground here saying they "would not accuse a rival player of staging" and
Short memory down at Arden Street I suppose...
http://www.kangaroos.com.au/tabid/4912/default.aspx?newsid=135047
The fact is that if Thomas had not staged, and the Tribunal held that he had staged, then Shuey's actions would not have been reviewed by the MRP. So they can't take the moral high ground here as their player staged and our player used that as a defence. It's like having a crack at a club for putting forward medical evidence that assists in proving sufficient force for a suspension.
So the North Melbourne Kangaroos are taking the moral high ground here saying they "would not accuse a rival player of staging" and
"don't bring other players from other clubs into any sort of discussions we have once the game is over" and that "
It's not for us to comment on what other players do at other clubs"
Short memory down at Arden Street I suppose...
http://www.kangaroos.com.au/tabid/4912/default.aspx?newsid=135047
The fact is that if Thomas had not staged, and the Tribunal held that he had staged, then Shuey's actions would not have been reviewed by the MRP. So they can't take the moral high ground here as their player staged and our player used that as a defence. It's like having a crack at a club for putting forward medical evidence that assists in proving sufficient force for a suspension.
I've never seen such hilarious hypocrisy.
West Coast 06
Norm Smith Medallist
Hypocrisy is in over drive at Arden Street!
Would think the relationship between the two clubs would be at an all time low ATM.
Would think the relationship between the two clubs would be at an all time low ATM.
East coast eagle
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very short memories...
Just heard some idiot on Sen congratulating the tribunal for upholding the sanctions for Lynch and Shuey..
Also having a whinge about how the Eagles have handled it, funny how things change.. Its ok to have a whinge if your a coach about ridiculas conspracy theorys
with umpires and playing for free kicks. But its not ok to single out a player with a history of playing for free's...
Is NMFC the most annoying pack of whinging aholes in the game???
i think they are fast becoming that..
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