Unsolved Madeleine McCann

[Angry Red Bull]

hah no it's not. A few jumbled up words when a person is under stress and not used to speaking in public through nerves of whatever, does not make a case.

Sometimes it can be interesting but we see experienced professionals and politicians do that sort of thing all the time and it's seized on by their opponents, goes nowhere.

Just as a drunken confession of bragging about false conquests as a criminal (Brueckner about Maddie) is in no way of probative value. In fact it's common that criminals brag falsely. So what is left at this point? ......his phone pinged to the tower at Ocean Hotel on the night as did 5000 other people

Having had his van since 2019 the police haven't announced any DNA link to Maddie. Having had him in Jail for like period there has also been no announcement of finger print match to Apartment 5A. They haven't come out and announced photographic evidence. The girls swimwear hasn't been announced as belonging to Maddie either. So at this point there isn't a lot.

But we have an escape route he supposedly used to leave (the bedroom window) that has only Kate's finger prints on it...no one else's. Why is that again? They said it was open when she found her gone .....but proven only she has finger print link to it. Why would she open it and say an abductor had? If you think hard enough there is an answer consistent with Gerry's words

But it's not common that the meaning of an entire phrase such as Gerry spoke to the Interviewer be mispoken by an educated person who is calm and deliberate. Gerry has always been an accomplished performer in front of a microphone or camera. Didn't even seem to get nervous in meeting the pope. Overawed? .....doesn't wash. Everyone occasionally uses poor choice of words....but to select words that convey an entirely different meaning is highly unlikely. That's my view anyway.

Perhaps they are going to make announcements. They certainly need way more than they have.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

This is a copy of the email between the Forensic Scientists -Dr Lowe (UK FSS) and Detective Prior (Head of UK Investigation), it might help understand why the alleged DNA of MC found in the boot of the hire car is useless.

Oh and didn't the tests show the blood found the bedroom was not Madeleine's because it came from a male?

Thank you for that. Appreciated. It was mixed and had 15 of 19 markers but because mixed results the test was inconclusive

I'll look at the report for apartment 5a again

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Dog analysis cadavar and blood is inadmissible but it is used to further an investigation as it was with Maddie

Leaving aside the indications behind lounge. Sight unseen I'll say they aren't linked to Maddie but will recheck

We still have cadavar indication in closet and in car boot and have blood indication in car boot also. There is also a travel bag went missing and never surfaced again. There is DNA in that boot that has 15 of 19 indication for Maddie but is a mixed sample. There are only Kate's finger prints on window that was supposedly used to abduct Maddie. Why was there a dead body in their closet and why likewise was there a dead body in the boot of their hire car AFTER Maddie went missing it having been hired after she went missing? Most hire cars are relatively new and have a history of months. Gerry slips up one day and inadvertently admits they found Maddie innuendo being they found her dead! How else could the find be construed more horrible than falsely being accused of death of your own child? Amongst the premier witness statement analysts in the world (FBI use him) Hyatt comes out after his analysis and says that Maddie died of a horrible accident in that apartment and that K & G disposed of the body presumably to prevent a negligent homicide charge and cited an 'embedded confession' by Gerry amongst other analyst conclusions. Cadavar indication of Kate's slacks and blouse and Maddie's cuddle toy insinuates that after having found her dead (already implicated in an interview by Gerry) that the grief stricken mother craddled the dead Maddie in her arms. Seems eminently more plausible than Kate's explanation as to why her clothes and Maddie's cuddle toy had cadavar indications. The dog handler was asked about accuracy and states that if the dogs are well trained (and his were)!that the accuracy is plus 95%. I've read elsewhere it's 97%.

CONTRAST with Brueckner
He is a sick individual with a criminal history of rape and child sex abuse who was in the area along with 5000 other people who were there too. Oh and bragged to a criminal associate whilst drunk he was perp for Maddie. Nothing else at this stage. If he did do it he must have used gloves (to explain only Kate's finger prints on window) but was seen by the Smith quartet without wearing them. So he took them off whilst carrying a sleeping child he was carrying on an abduction? That person carrying the child was identified by them as 80-90 it was Gerry and if not someone who very closely resembled Gerry with same mannerisms in head movement. Does he look like Gerry. Not particularly. This is a bit far fetched but perhaps it WAS Gerry. But why would he be carrying a dead Maddie and where would he be going 30-45 minutes before the alarm was raised? Hang on I think the Tapas 7 friends said he was with them. That's credible..... Right? I mean they were all honest about frequency of visits back to inspect kids .... Right?

The evidence points one direction at this stage. Perhaps that will change. The two can't co exist and I know what I believe

 

[Kurve]

Just as a drunken confession of bragging about false conquests as a criminal (Brueckner about Maddie) is in no way of probative value. In fact it's common that criminals brag falsely. So what is left at this point? ......his phone pinged to the tower at Ocean Hotel on the night as did 5000 other people

Gerry isn't bragging, he messed his words up and without even hearing it myself I couldn't be sure that's even what he said. On it's own it means nothing.

I'm building a profile on Bruecker to post later.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

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Gerry isn't bragging, he messed his words up and without even hearing it myself I couldn't be sure that's even what he said. On it's own it means nothing.

I'm building a profile on Bruecker to post later.

Psyche profile?

He seems an oddity. Burglary. Rape women. Rape geriatric women. Abuse young girls. Possible murders young girls. Fixation with child pornography. Drug involvement. Sadism. Intention to kidnap and retain as sex slave

Real nice guy that one!!!!

A defining trait if he is perp is transitioning over to murder. Many can rape abuse but few have the sociopathic or psychopathic tendencies to also murder their victims. He is linked to disappearance of a young girl with a car similar to his. So murder is possible though not proven

 

[faible]

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Psyche profile?

He seems an oddity. Burglary. Rape women. Rape geriatric women. Abuse young girls. Possible murders young girls. Fixation with child pornography. Drug involvement. Sadism. Intention to kidnap and retain as sex slave

Real nice guy that one!!!!

A defining trait if he is perp is transitioning over to murder. Many can rape abuse but few have the sociopathic or psychopathic tendencies to also murder their victims. He is linked to disappearance of a young girl with a car similar to his. So murder is possible though not proven

Yet you're so quick to dismiss him and accuse the McCann's who after 15 years have never been charged.

Yeah, you're not unbiased.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Yet you're so quick to dismiss him and accuse the McCann's who after 15 years have never been charged.

Yeah, you're not unbiased.

He is a sick individual no doubt. And was in vicinity. If there is more to link him let's hear it? So far we haven't. So the only actual evidence is that he is a sicko and was there that night and bragged to a criminal associate

Is he of the profile to offend like this? Certainly. So he took her to his van? But they've had his van now for a few years and nothing reported about DNA. Why? Read somewhere that a report is imminent. It's been 2 years?......does it really take that long? They haven't even sought to search his premises back then. Why? The apartment was finger printed when Maddie disappeared. So if there was a match to him we would have heard I would think

If he has photos of Maddie then that is incriminating. But they've had photos and nothing has been mentioned about photos of Maddie to my knowledge. Why? It's a few years now.

All that has been said is that they have evidence implicating him on Maddie's disappearance. Like he was there that night and bragged whilst drunk to an associate? If that's all they have it's a dead end.

I've listed and analysed the evidence in unbiased way. I'm sorry if you don't like where it leads us.

 

[faible]

All that has been said is that they have evidence implicating him on Maddie's disappearance.

Which is more than they've ever had on the McCann's.

I've listed and analysed the evidence in unbiased way.

Untrue.

I'm sorry if you don't like where it leads us.

It leads 'us' nowhere. It leads 'you' to a conclusion whereby you take the most obscure snippets of information and claim them as irrefutable evidence of guilt contrary to all law enforcement agencies, whilst completely ignoring that a number of law enforcement agencies all claim there's actual evidence against Brueckner.

You're so deep down the rabbit hole now you can't see the sky.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Which is more than they've ever had on the McCann's.



Untrue.



It leads 'us' nowhere. It leads 'you' to a conclusion whereby you take the most obscure snippets of information and claim them as irrefutable evidence of guilt contrary to all law enforcement agencies, whilst completely ignoring that a number of law enforcement agencies all claim there's actual evidence against Brueckner.

You're so deep down the rabbit hole now you can't see the sky.

There is DNA evidence 15 of 19 markers to Maddie in the car boot but they couldn't push forward from Arguido status because the DNA evidence was inconclusive as was mixed. Had it not been mixed they had imminent charges pending justifiably so. The threshold of evidence didn't meet the standard to proceed rather than there was never anything to implicate them. Massive difference. There certainly was plenty

There are 3 countries investigating his involvement and now nominated as Arguido just like McCann's were. That's all. Do they have any more evidence? Maybe. Maybe not. That is the unbiased view.

As an aside you seem to take the view my opinions determined from deductive reasoning and evidence are pure fanciful fantasy. My background was as external auditor (6 yrs) where persuasiveness of evidence was the centrepiece of all conclusions and then for a time I worked as as a forensic accountant (4 yrs) and required to prepare reports for court often about incomplete records using deductive reasoning and evidence. I never resort to fanciful fantasy and am only ever influenced by persuasiveness of evidence sometimes admissible sometimes not.

 

[Kurve]

CONTRAST with Brueckner
He is a sick individual with a criminal history of rape and child sex abuse who was in the area along with 5000 other people who were there too. Oh and bragged to a criminal associate whilst drunk he was perp for Maddie. Nothing else at this stage. If he did do it he must have used gloves (to explain only Kate's finger prints on window) but was seen by the Smith quartet without wearing them. So he took them off whilst carrying a sleeping child he was carrying on an abduction? That person carrying the child was identified by them as 80-90 it was Gerry and if not someone who very closely resembled Gerry with same mannerisms in head movement. Does he look like Gerry. Not particularly. This is a bit far fetched but perhaps it WAS Gerry. But why would he be carrying a dead Maddie and where would he be going 30-45 minutes before the alarm was raised? Hang on I think the Tapas 7 friends said he was with them. That's credible..... Right? I mean they were all honest about frequency of visits back to inspect kids .... Right?

IF it was Brueckner seen carrying Maddie out and given she never even saw his face she wouldn't have noticed if he was wearing gloves or not and if he was wearing surgical gloves, even less likely. And of course he was wearing gloves because he was well known as a skilled climber, athletic and very experienced, expert burglar. He also wore suits so he could blend and a wig on occasion when he was doing recon.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

IF it was Brueckner seen carrying Maddie out and given she never even saw his face she wouldn't have noticed if he was wearing gloves or not and if he was wearing surgical gloves, even less likely. And of course he was wearing gloves because he was well known as a skilled climber, athletic and very experienced, expert burglar. He also wore suits so he could blend and a wig on occasion when he was doing recon.

The tanner sighting was disproven. Related to someone who later came forward. The only other witnesses were the Smith ( 4 in all) and their witness statements elaborately describe dress. They walked past him face to face single file almost. No mention of any 'suit' or similar style outfit. Child was across left shoulder position showing face......probably with a hand to hold on the back. No mention by any of gloves or surgical gloves that would be obvious if they were.

We don't know for certain it was Maddie. It was closer to the Beach a few hundred metres away about 30-40 minutes prior alert. It's possible not Maddie but no one else has come forward saying was them. The child was identified as being like Maddie

Thank you for the background on clothing and climbing skills!!! Even more likely window was used I guess.

That time of night the child and parent should be on the way home. I'll have a look at map location and see if ANY apartments were down that track toward beach. I don't know the area that well but most resorts of this style have accommodation further away and only use facilities closer to beach etc. My aim is to see if it was possible they were headed to accommodation somewhere. I'd imagine that parking away from accommodation in opposite direction would be the likely parking position if was an abductor like Brueckner. You might find there isn't even parking available as you approach beach

 

[faible]

There is DNA evidence 15 of 19 markers to Maddie in the car boot

Which was even explained in detail within the last two pages as to how not-conclusive it was that it was even related to her. But again, you don't want to hear that.

The threshold of evidence didn't meet the standard to proceed rather than there was never anything to implicate them

So there simply wasn't evidence that indicated the McCann's killed her, and 15 years on, there still isn't such evidence.

my opinions

Exactly.

determined from deductive reasoning and evidence

Untrue.

My background was as external auditor (6 yrs) where persuasiveness of evidence was the centrepiece of all conclusions and then for a time I worked as as a forensic accountant (4 yrs) and required to prepare reports for court often about incomplete records using deductive reasoning and evidence. I never resort to fanciful fantasy and am only ever influenced by persuasiveness of evidence sometimes admissible sometimes not.

If the conclusions you came to in your job as an external auditor were similarly absurd then you almost certainly did not use deductive reasoning or evidence, and most definitely resorted to fantasy and ignored evidence.

If you're telling the truth, that is.

Sounds to me like you're very full of your own intelligence, to the point of actively ignoring anything and everything that conflicts with your predetermined position.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Which was even explained in detail within the last two pages as to how not-conclusive it was that it was even related to her. But again, you don't want to hear that.



So there simply wasn't evidence that indicated the McCann's killed her, and 15 years on, there still isn't such evidence.



Exactly.



Untrue.



If the conclusions you came to in your job as an external auditor were similarly absurd then you almost certainly did not use deductive reasoning or evidence, and most definitely resorted to fantasy and ignored evidence.

If you're telling the truth, that is.

Sounds to me like you're very full of your own intelligence, to the point of actively ignoring anything and everything that conflicts with your predetermined position.

I have never said that McCann killed her and I don't offer that opinion nor does the evidence support it either. You cant even get right what I believe and then based on your erroneous view of what you think I mean you choose to lambast me. It's a joke.

Then you go on to say and I quote that I'm full of my own intelligence to which I respond absolutely I'm full of my own intelligence. After all, for what it's worth, it belongs to me. And your intelligence, for what it's worth, belongs to you also. Perhaps best to leave it there and excuse myself from this ridiculous exchange

You don't like my opinions....please don't engage me or this won't end well for you

 

[faible]

or this won't end well for you

Glorious.

 

[Kurve]

Do you two have history of head clashes in SRP or something? owen87 Angry Red Bull

 

[faible]

Do you two have history of head clashes in SRP or something? owen87 Angry Red Bull

Not sure among the many people I've argued with on SRP threads I've ever argued with this poster previously.

Seems we've reached the 'or else' stage pretty early in our BigFooty relationship.

 

[Kurve]

Go steady!

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Do you two have history of head clashes in SRP or something? owen87 Angry Red Bull

Sadly it's the nature of the beast with this type of site I'm afraid. Some people just can't tolerate others opinions. I've had no history with this poster apart from here. Here well:

He has:

• told me I have some sort of character flaw because I won't bend to other opinions (that presumably in his mind are more correct)
• that if I continue to not bend to others opinions that i can expect to have fun poked at me for as long as he chooses (trolling i think it's called)
• has suggested I've gone down a rabbit hole oblivious to any rational thought
• suggested that my career work as a forensic accountant must have resulted in equally absurd outcomes
• suggests I'm a liar about my work
• suggested im full of my own intelligence (the meaning of which still eludes me but I take a guess thinking it's not good)

For my part I've suggested:

• I keep my opinion and he keep his respecting each
• suggested he may need counselling if he cant accept that simple principle which he couldn't
• upon being called incapable of rational thought, a liar and incompetent in my profession I ASKED him to politely leave me alone else I will return serve and it won't be pleasant

 

[Kurve]

Pretty good so far ...

Madeleine McCann - The Chief Suspect - All Episodes 22nd April

<p>A new 8-part series, which details author and journalist, Jon Clarke's quest to uncover the truth of the Madeleine McCann disappearance and his hunt for the suspect at the centre of this tragic story. Donal takes us through Jon's involvement in the case from the very first day, and the...

player.fm

 

[Kurve]

Something that I'm sure not many people outside of Portugal are aware of, is that up until 2007 it wasn't even illegal to view child pornography, paedophiles could sit out in public and watch child abuse material over the web. Reports to the police of random stranger sex attacks against children at the beaches wouldn't even get a cop down there to take a look.

The McCanns would have had no idea what they were taking their kids in to.

 

[faible]

Sadly it's the nature of the beast with this type of site I'm afraid. Some people just can't tolerate others opinions. I've had no history with this poster apart from here. Here well:

He has:

• told me I have some sort of character flaw because I won't bend to other opinions (that presumably in his mind are more correct)
• that if I continue to not bend to others opinions that i can expect to have fun poked at me for as long as he chooses (trolling i think it's called)
• has suggested I've gone down a rabbit hole oblivious to any rational thought
• suggested that my career work as a forensic accountant must have resulted in equally absurd outcomes
• suggests I'm a liar about my work
• suggested im full of my own intelligence (the meaning of which still eludes me but I take a guess thinking it's not good)

For my part I've suggested:

• I keep my opinion and he keep his respecting each
• suggested he may need counselling if he cant accept that simple principle which he couldn't
• upon being called incapable of rational thought, a liar and incompetent in my profession I ASKED him to politely leave me alone else I will return serve and it won't be pleasant

You certainly have an ‘interesting’ way of framing things.

 

[Engimal v3]

Can't believe some are so gullible to believe she's still missing

 

[BonzaRam]

Dog analysis cadavar and blood is inadmissible but it is used to further an investigation as it was with Maddie

Leaving aside the indications behind lounge. Sight unseen I'll say they aren't linked to Maddie but will recheck

We still have cadavar indication in closet and in car boot and have blood indication in car boot also. There is also a travel bag went missing and never surfaced again. There is DNA in that boot that has 15 of 19 indication for Maddie but is a mixed sample. There are only Kate's finger prints on window that was supposedly used to abduct Maddie. Why was there a dead body in their closet and why likewise was there a dead body in the boot of their hire car AFTER Maddie went missing it having been hired after she went missing? Most hire cars are relatively new and have a history of months. Gerry slips up one day and inadvertently admits they found Maddie innuendo being they found her dead! How else could the find be construed more horrible than falsely being accused of death of your own child? Amongst the premier witness statement analysts in the world (FBI use him) Hyatt comes out after his analysis and says that Maddie died of a horrible accident in that apartment and that K & G disposed of the body presumably to prevent a negligent homicide charge and cited an 'embedded confession' by Gerry amongst other analyst conclusions. Cadavar indication of Kate's slacks and blouse and Maddie's cuddle toy insinuates that after having found her dead (already implicated in an interview by Gerry) that the grief stricken mother craddled the dead Maddie in her arms. Seems eminently more plausible than Kate's explanation as to why her clothes and Maddie's cuddle toy had cadavar indications. The dog handler was asked about accuracy and states that if the dogs are well trained (and his were)!that the accuracy is plus 95%. I've read elsewhere it's 97%.

CONTRAST with Brueckner
He is a sick individual with a criminal history of rape and child sex abuse who was in the area along with 5000 other people who were there too. Oh and bragged to a criminal associate whilst drunk he was perp for Maddie. Nothing else at this stage. If he did do it he must have used gloves (to explain only Kate's finger prints on window) but was seen by the Smith quartet without wearing them. So he took them off whilst carrying a sleeping child he was carrying on an abduction? That person carrying the child was identified by them as 80-90 it was Gerry and if not someone who very closely resembled Gerry with same mannerisms in head movement. Does he look like Gerry. Not particularly. This is a bit far fetched but perhaps it WAS Gerry. But why would he be carrying a dead Maddie and where would he be going 30-45 minutes before the alarm was raised? Hang on I think the Tapas 7 friends said he was with them. That's credible..... Right? I mean they were all honest about frequency of visits back to inspect kids .... Right?

The evidence points one direction at this stage. Perhaps that will change. The two can't co exist and I know what I believe

I am curious now, what I am not understanding in your hypothesis is where was MCs body for the 3+ weeks (25 days?) from her disappearing to when the McCanns hired the vehicle ? It would have had to been at least chilled for them 3+ weeks, if not frozen, to avoid serious decomposition. Then at that point they would have to had snuck the body into the boot of the car whilst under massive media scrutiny at the time. How plausible is this?

 

[Angry Red Bull]

I am curious now, what I am not understanding in your hypothesis is where was MCs body for the 3+ weeks (25 days?) from her disappearing to when the McCanns hired the vehicle ? It would have had to been at least chilled for them 3+ weeks, if not frozen, to avoid serious decomposition. Then at that point they would have to had snuck the body into the boot of the car whilst under massive media scrutiny at the time. How plausible is this?

There are things known and things speculated. I haven't discussed much of the speculation because there is no concrete evidence but I know many of the theories some extreme some not.

Yes it the largely unknown that time line and you are absolutely right in your suggestions. Indeed it has been said that the taking out of freezer and in a travel bag (missing) was the catalyst for the thawing that largely produced the DNA in the boot. It wasn't blood as such but rather a wetness from a thawing dead body that leaked through the travel bag creating the DNA sample. If you remember it was a mixed sample. Not completely Maddie's but possibly including Maddie's (15 of 19 markers)

So where was it chilled? All the cars of tapas 7 were checked by cadavar dogs and none with the exception of McCann had an indication for cadavar. But Mcann was rented some time after she went missing. A week or two. One of them had their car at apartment 5a that night but it's unlikely it was in there because no dog indication. I'm unsure but also seem recall that the tapas 7 apartments were checked too.

possibilities:

1) The Smith sighting of a man carrying a child that occurred 30-45 mins prior to the alarm was suggested to in fact be fact Gerry. If you recall the Smith witnesses contacted police after having seen Gerry exit a plane and told police they were 80-90% sure it was in fact Gerry or someone who closely resembles Gerry. Updated their witness statement according. So on one suggestion Gerry carried Maddie toward the beach to hide her. That hiding place is not known and there would have to be retrieval after search is finalized We don't know where why how etc but the changing of witness statements to confirm Gerry as the person is of concern as to possible hiding of dead body. It's problematic because the search was frantic and didn't dissipate much. So questionable but I still find it hard to entirely dismiss Smith claims and WHERE Gerry was going if it were him

2) The McCann's the morning of the disappearance reached out to Portugese Catholic priest who was new to the church (also I believe in the direction toward the beach). They became so close to Father Panchero that he gave them a key to the church so they could pray privately there and did often even at night alone. It is speculated that Kate under confession had told Panchero about how Maddie died. It's likely the church had a freezer to hold deceased for subsequent transportation by car to the crematorium or burial much further away I understand. It is suggested the body was held here for a time and chilled. It's even been said that her body was held in a coffin within a freezer that had an elderly deceased lady and would be out of view. That of course would explain how DNA of a deceased child in a travel bag within a boot would actually have mixed DNA........transfer of DNA from that lady. All speculation which I cannot evidence. The church were identified by police as possibly complicit. Much later they investigated burial sites there and searched the church itself all too late. What is known for certain is that the extremely close relationship between the MCcanns and Father Panchero soured and deteriorated to point of distrust and hated. He is on record as having angrily said that the McCann's deceived him. He wouldn't elaborate nor break confessional but SOMETHING happened. He was castigated by senior catholics who criticised his handling and giving of key access. The whole thing seemed to ruin him

3) It has long been argued that there is concern about timeline. There was a massive flurry and exchange of calls between McCann and UK on the 2/05 not the 3/05. On this analysis it's been said the time stamp of Maddie on the famous photo at the pool on the 3/5 was earlier in the week having been changed then allowing time for disposal and the calls were UK govt involvement to help them navigate escape of charges for innocent accidental death of a child. No proof of any of this. Mere speculation. SOMETHING happened on the 2/3 that caused all the flurry of calls. Seems obvious if you look at the phone evidence as police did . The Police speculated UK govt intervention but ultimately didn't change their timeline from 3/05 because they had no evidence of alternatives though Amaral does say there must have been a step to chill somewhere. Of course if the death happened earlier they would have had a day or more to find a hiding place with freezer. No evidence has come forward about location if there was one

Personally I think there were possibly two steps to three steps. Hiding somewhere until search is over. Transport to church freezer after key access. Hiring car to bury when things calmed a little. The priest was used and placed in a horrible position and that is why there is mistrust and hatred towards McCann. He probably knows what happened.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Brueckner

When the story first broke about this perp 2 years ago 60 mins had contact with people in charge of the investigation in Germany.

The conversations were instructive

"Brueckner filmed his crimes. I'm not allowed to tell whether we have or don't have photographic or video evidence of Maddie but we do have strong evidence she is dead"

This from the lead prosecutor in Germany

So Portugese law prohibits speaking about case evidence but they do anyway. lol.

This is tantamount to telling they do have video proof of her death really. That's the first time I've seen it worded that way. RIP Maddie

A clue was also divulged that they were able to trace him from calls made from the Tapas bar the night Maddie went missing. MCcanns booking at the restaurant that night had a notation that they wanted to be seated close to their apartment so they could be close to their children in their apartment. It is suspected that a tip off call happened to Brueckner from staff at the Tapas bar and his number was traced back from there to someone who had child sex abuse convictions. Reading between the lines pressure was then applied to his associates who then turned on him to give further details they had witnessed about videos of rapes etc. And admission of involvement with Maddie abduction.

These discussions are extremely persuasive.

So Kate's finger prints on the window to bedroom was an earlier use of the windows that day . His use was covered by wearing gloves (as Kurve has suggested). We are then left with an open window with only Kate's finger prints on it. Once inside by using sliding doors the window would definitely be used instead of sliding door as escape route. That way gives good concealment by a wrap around wall adjacent to the car spaces virtually hiding the drop space below that window