Makybe Diva > Brisbane Lions

[scotty13]

Two completely different senarios but i will have my say. One horse winning 3 years in a row without any changes to her compared to one team winning 3 years in a row with changes every year and every week. 3 races (6min) compared to 66h&a and 9?finals(hell of a lot of minutes). One retired at the top, the other tried to do better and fell on their ass. lol. but id rather be good and fall on my ass than just be an ass (collingwood)

 

[parano1a]

Two completely different senarios but i will have my say. One horse winning 3 years in a row without any changes...

I wouldn't say that.

2003 Melbourne Cup - 51.5 kg
2004 Melbourne Cup - 55.5 kg
2005 Melbourne Cup - 58.0 kg

Plus add in the Cox Plate (one of the world's best wfa races) and all the other Group 1 wins in between.

 

[Homer Jnr]

I wouldn't say that.

2003 Melbourne Cup - 51.5 kg
2004 Melbourne Cup - 55.5 kg
2005 Melbourne Cup - 58.0 kg

Plus add in the Cox Plate (one of the world's best wfa races) and all the other Group 1 wins in between.

You mean like the Lions playing 3 1/2 quarters of the 2002 GF with 21 men?

You mean like the Lions coming from behind in the 03 PF to make the GF? And then having Lappin play with a broken rib? And numerous other players nursing major injuries?

You mean like the brownlow medalist midfield winning the 01 and 02 awards?

You mean like the numerous media awards won by Lions players during the era?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Franklins Gardens>>>>Carlton

 

[Hollow Knight]

Mummify = Collingwood

What... too soon?

 

[smeagol_17]

hmmm it appears rather strange to compare Makybe Diva with football but put it this way her win will go down in history and never forgotten while although the Lions 3 GF wins in a row from 01-03 were great you have to remember that the 4 GF wins in a row that Collingwood won (cant remember the years) is hardely remembered as majory history in Australian sport (although, coming to think of it if WC won 3 or 4 GF in a row-that would most definitly blitz Makye Diva and Phar Lap )
Oh and by the way the Diva is the wrong gender to play AFL

 

[Bloods Rule!]

Makybe Diva proved today that she is greater than the Brisbane Lions.

Great athlete but not a natural footballer. Can run okay but kicks like a girl.

 

[Cyclops]

...Phar Lap/Makybe Diva/Don Bradman...

Now I'm not running Makybe diva down, she's one fantastic mare. However Phar lap won stretchs of 12 and 11 races straight. They gave him the heaviest weight ever in a Melbourne Cup and he still placed. Bradman dominated the international scene so utterly the Poms cheated to beat him. Makybe Diva is a fantastic all time mare, and a top- notch horse, but she's not quite in the same category as the other two.

PS Pies 1927-30> the rest of the Universe.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

Now I'm not running Makybe diva down, she's one fantastic mare. However Phar lap won stretchs of 12 and 11 races straight. They gave him the heaviest weight ever in a Melbourne Cup and he still placed. Bradman dominated the international scene so utterly the Poms cheated to beat him. Makybe Diva is a fantastic all time mare, and a top- notch horse, but she's not quite in the same category as the other two.

PS Pies 1927-30> the rest of the Universe.

One of those flags you won without making the Grand Final so the achievement is tarnished IMO. The best team for that year won the Grand Final and then played off against your side as the reigning premier from the previous year.

If you want to go on about this your feat is put in the shade by Port's six flags from 1954 to 1959. No playoff involved.

Really the attempts by Collingwood people from Eddie down to belittle Brisbane's achievements are just pathetic.



http://portadelaidefc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=235752

Power congratulates Tony & Christine Santic
4:41:06 PM Tue 1 November, 2005
Port Adelaide Football Club
Just like our song says, ‘there was history here in the making’ on Tuesday when Makybe Diva saluted for Melbourne Cup No. 3. The Port Adelaide Football Club today congratulated passionate Power supporter Tony Santic, wife Christine and family on the wonderful win of their champion mare.

Makybe Diva wrote her name into the record books after winning her third consecutive Melbourne Cup, becoming the first horse to ever have achieved that feat and the first mare to win carrying 58kg. She was retired from racing in the moments following her greatest victory.

Makybe’s owner, Tony Santic is a passionate Port Adelaide supporter and friend of the club.

"The Port Adelaide Football Club congratulates Tony and Christine Santic and family on the wonderful victory of Makybe Diva in today's Melbourne Cup," Power chief executive John James said.

"Tony Santic is a wonderful supporter and ambassador of the Port Adelaide Football Club and was with us on our finest day in 2004 when we won our first AFL premiership.

"Tony has also provided the Port Adelaide Football Club with exceptional support over the years including donating the club a thee-year lease for horse, Carnegie Power, which raised the club more than a quarter of a million dollars this year.

"We thought the Cox Plate win was the Santic’s greatest day, but today has taken Makybe Diva to immortality. Our Club is thrilled to have witnessed Tony's victory. We are thrilled for Tony and Christine. They are wonderful people and deserve this wonderful success."

 

[Muffo]

Makybe Diva proved today that she is greater than the Brisbane Lions.

So does that mean Makybe Diva is better than Collingwood 1927-1930?

4 straight premierships is better than 3....

 

[hotpie]

Makybe Diva proved today that she is greater than the Brisbane Lions.

But not as good as Collingwood in the 1920's.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

A racehorse is greater than a football team .... hmmm, now that she is retired from racing, Carlton could take her with the #1 pick in the draft. She could graze in the square at fullback .... Livo would never get another game.

 

[meltiger]

If you want to go on about this your feat is put in the shade by Port's six flags from 1954 to 1959. No playoff involved.

Rubbish, the two achievements in Australian Football competitions are quite simply the two record holders in each of the major codes in their respective cities.

The two noteworthy records are :

Collingwood's 4 in a row - The fact this has never been repeated in the competition is astounding, and really shows what an exceptionally hard feat it is to win even 3 - ala Melbourne, Brisbane etc

St George's 11 in a row - Not even the most feral of bogans from Port Adelaide can even pretend ANYTHING their club EVER achieved can be held to the level of achievment as the St George run from '56 to '66. This feat is without a doubt the most sensational in Australian sporting history.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

Rubbish, the two achievements in Australian Football competitions are quite simply the two record holders in each of the major codes in their respective cities.

The two noteworthy records are :

Collingwood's 4 in a row - The fact this has never been repeated in the competition is astounding, and really shows what an exceptionally hard feat it is to win even 3 - ala Melbourne, Brisbane etc

St George's 11 in a row - Not even the most feral of bogans from Port Adelaide can even pretend ANYTHING their club EVER achieved can be held to the level of achievment as the St George run from '56 to '66. This feat is without a doubt the most sensational in Australian sporting history.

Let's stick to the one sport shall we. How is four greater than six?

 

[bradrowe#32]

You really gotta love it don't ya. Collingwood blaming the Lions for Collingwood losing for a couple of years straight. Collingwood blaming the Lions and the AFL for the Lions being successful. Or in other words Collingwood blaming the Lions for the Lions being successful and Collingwood being crap.

Now the Lions are crap and Collingwood are still crap. So now it's about a horse who is better than the Lions seeing as Collingwood are still crap.

So one poster of BigFooty represents the whole of Collingwood?

 

[Spiritof82]

Makybe Diva proved today that she is greater than the Brisbane Lions.

Its a horse that spend all year waiting for ONE race, not a team that must play 22 games just to make the finals. Why all the fuss over a future can of dog food.

 

[Cyclops]

Let's stick to the one sport shall we. How is four greater than six?

When the six were won in the nuff-nuff back of beyond league vs the cream of yokel town, and the 4 were won in the elite competition in the centre of the known sporting world.

...or are you saying the Adelaide cup is the same as the Melbourne cup?

 

[meltiger]

When the six were won in the nuff-nuff back of beyond league vs the cream of yokel town, and the 4 were won in the elite competition in the centre of the known sporting world.

Exactly right. What I should have said was the major codes in Australia's largest (By miles and miles and miles) two largest cities.

Collingwood's record, whilst the best in the VFL does not equal St George's run though.

 

[meltiger]

Let's stick to the one sport shall we.

No. All Port supporters love to big note their clus achievements in a second rate competition ... They don't even come close to being able to lay a claim on Australia's best ever club team across all codes.

 

[MickZu]

If Chris Johnson was on the track he would have coathanged the b*tch.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

When the six were won in the nuff-nuff back of beyond league vs the cream of yokel town, and the 4 were won in the elite competition in the centre of the known sporting world.

...or are you saying the Adelaide cup is the same as the Melbourne cup?

Maybe you should ask yourself why possibly the best footballer ever, Haydn Bunton, left "the centre of the known sporting world" and was recruited by Subiaco in the Western Australian league at the height of his career. Maybe you should ask yourself why a Victorian was prepared to stand out of football for a year to leave a VFL club in order to play for Port. Maybe you should familiarise yourself with the long list of Victorian players who went to play in other states in the years prior to the VFL club's going close to bankrupting themselves buying players from interstate.

Maybe you should ask yourself how it was possible for Port to defeat Collingwood in the Champions of Australia game during your golden years before the Second World War. Port 15 20 (110) Collingwood 7 9 (51). Bit of a spanking that.

Maybe you should ask yourself why John Cahill found your club to be a long way behind Port Adelaide in terms of professional administration when he coached you.

Maybe you should compare the records of Port and Collingwood since we played in the same league.

And lastly maybe you should stop trying to tear down the achievements of other clubs in order to make your own look better.

 

[Cyclops]

Maybe you should ask yourself why possibly the best footballer ever, Haydn Bunton, left "the centre of the known sporting world" and was recruited by Subiaco in the Western Australian league at the height of his career.

...ask him yourself.

Maybe you should ask yourself why a Victorian was prepared to stand out of football for a year to leave a VFL club in order to play for Port.

...ask him yourself that too.

Maybe you should familiarise yourself with the long list of Victorian players who went to play in other states in the years prior to the VFL club's going close to bankrupting themselves buying players from interstate.

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the fact your mob left your little pond and joined the big league.

Maybe you should ask yourself how it was possible for Port to defeat Collingwood in the Champions of Australia game during your golden years before the Second World War. Port 15 20 (110) Collingwood 7 9 (51). Bit of a spanking that.

I'd say the major contibutors for Collingwood in that match were J. Idon'tcare and M. Whogivesarats. End of season friendlies vs regional sides are a great way to relax, but mean zip. The SOO concept died because Vic players just couldn't take it seriously. It was the passion and hatred of SA and WA for the Big Leaguers that made the concept and allowed minnows to compete with giants. It still doesn't make the Adelaide cup into the Melbourne cup.

Maybe you should ask yourself why John Cahill found your club to be a long way behind Port Adelaide in terms of professional administration when he coached you.

Is that when he took Collingwood backwards (including the biggest finals loss ever) after we made 5 GFs in 5 years under Hafey? Great example of how to make a decent footy side: take a great side and give it to a bush coach.

Champ in the minor league, Jack Cahill, but not up to speed in the big time and proved it again with your mob.

Maybe you should compare the records of Port and Collingwood since we played in the same league.

I'm happy too, because its RELEVANT, unlike bush league flags. Port have done magnificently in the big league, showing a lot of character to win after finals dissapointment. There is no possibility of them winning six straight because its the big league and there is decent competition, not farmers boys and tumbleweeds.

And lastly maybe you should stop trying to tear down the achievements of other clubs in order to make your own look better.

You're the one who brought up Port vs the Pies not me. I'm tearing nothing down, its jyust your argument blowing away in the desert wind.

I love Port and value their fabulous record in the SANFL as a proud and honourable record of success. You can only beat the opposition you have and its no disgrace to Port that they were playing bush league. Just don't pretend that the Adelaide cup is the Melbourne cup, or the SANFL is the VFL/AFL.

 

[The Magenius]

What comes out of Makybe Diva >Carlton

 

[Toots Hibbert]

...You're the one who brought up Port vs the Pies not me. I'm tearing nothing down, its jyust your argument blowing away in the desert wind....

We're posting in a thread started by one of your own bringing up a horse race in order to belittle the achievements of Brisbane. You responded to a post of mine taking issue with that and pointing out that to claim Collingwoods achievements as the greatest is false.

You brought in John Cahill to try and fix the Colliwobbles. That he failed where Hafey also failed says something about Collingwood and not Cahill.

 

[Helix]

But not as good as Collingwood in the 1920's.

Anyone here alive back then?? Yeah, that's what I thought.