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Conspiracy Theory Mandates, Lockdowns, Covid-19, SARS-Cov-2 Thread - Get vaccinated.
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Are you saying Stokes didn't get Federal approval to depart and arrive in Australia?
Sounds like you're trying to twist this politically again Taylor.
IMO a lot less value, asymptomatic infections, sportspeople running around participating in training/playing etc they're perfectly healthy and then test positive... don't test healthy people and suddenly the panic is over, the fear of Joe and Jane public is now being driven by cases.
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Dr Robert Malone was on the Joe Rogan Podcast today for over 3 hours discussing Covid, he's a highly impressive individual with impeccable credentials, a lot of mis information being spread about him, well worth the listen.
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Robert Wallace Malone is an American virologist and immunologist. His work has focused on mRNA technology, pharmaceuticals, and drug repurposing research. During the COVID-19 pandemic, he has been criticized for promoting misinformation about the safety and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines.
In the 1980s, while a researcher at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies, Malone conducted studies on messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) technology, discovering that it was possible to transfer mRNA protected by a liposome into cultured cells to signal the information needed for the production of proteins.[7][2]
In 1987, Malone performed a landmark experiment on transfection of RNA into human, rat, mouse, Xenopus, and Drosophila cells.[8][9]
In the early 1990s, he collaborated with Jon A. Wolff, Dennis A. Carson, and others on a study that first suggested the possibility of synthesizing mRNA in a laboratory to trigger the production of a desired protein.[10] Malone claims to be the inventor of mRNA vaccines, although credit for the distinction is more often given to later advancements by Katalin Karikó or Derrick Rossi,[7][11][12] and was ultimately the result of the contributions of hundreds of researchers, of whom Malone was but one.[13]
Malone has served as director of clinical affairs for Avancer Group, a member of the scientific advisory board of EpiVax, assistant professor at the University of Maryland, Baltimore school of medicine, and an adjunct associate professor of biotechnology at Kennesaw State University.[14] He was CEO and co-founder of Atheric Pharmaceutical,[15] which in 2016 was contracted by the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases to assist in the development of a treatment for the Zika virus by evaluating the efficacy of existing drugs.[16][17][18][19] Until 2020, Malone was chief medical officer at Alchem Laboratories, a Florida pharmaceutical company.[20]
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Masks have a huge environmental cost.
They also make life harder for people who rely on lip reading.
He has a hell of a resume, I'd certainly take more notice of him re virology, immunology issues than state health ministers/premiers and CHOs.
Yes I'm gradually starting to see more and more of them in gutters, roadways, parks and footpaths on my daily walks and cycles.
And hard at hearing, I'm constantly saying pardon when speaking to people with masks on, facial cues are an issue as well when trying to access mood, intention, sarcasm, children hate masks.
His claim to be the inventor of Mrna vaccines is highly questionable
A likely take is he is annoyed with not getting credit he think he deserves and because his ego is hurt he takes the airwaves craving the attention he yearns for
As Chief concludes yet another grifter
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Do you believe that Covid vaccines are ineffective and programs should be stopped? Malone does.
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Do you believe that countries should not have vaccinated their populations? Malone does.
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He went on Bannon's show to dis mRNA vaccinations.
He thinks his invention was stolen from him, when people involved say things like “the achievement of the mRNA vaccines of today is the accomplishment of a lot of collaborative efforts.”
"Low credibility":
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He's a grifter. He's bitter. He's wrong.
Do you believe that Covid vaccines are ineffective and programs should be stopped? Malone does.
Debunking claim by Dr Robert Malone that India withheld info about Ivermectin from US govt
Dr Robert Malone insinuated that India somehow withheld the use of Ivermectin from the United States government | OpIndia News
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Do you believe that countries should not have vaccinated their populations? Malone does.
The Vaccine Scientist Spreading Vaccine Misinformation
Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA technology. Why is he trying so hard to undermine its use?
He went on Bannon's show to dis mRNA vaccinations.
He thinks his invention was stolen from him, when people involved say things like “the achievement of the mRNA vaccines of today is the accomplishment of a lot of collaborative efforts.”
"Low credibility":
Washington Times article by Robert Malone and Peter Navarro relies on inaccurate and unsubstantiated claims about virus evolution, vaccine immunity, and COVID-19 vaccine safety
"This article has inaccuracies throughout with a clear view to push an anti-vaccine agenda. The picture depicting a skull with eyes and nose made of coronaviruses in the shape of the U.S. is sensationalist. The opening line calls it Biden’s strategy. It was also Trump’s and is the strategy of...
He's a grifter. He's bitter. He's wrong.
Speaking of grifters, Craig Kelly seems to get around a lot Melb one day Sydney the next
His travel schedule suggests he can move freely- can we conclude he is double vaccd?
His travel schedule suggests he can move freely- can we conclude he is double vaccd?
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Seeing as pretty much everyone in hospital has Omicron, and we know that the current vaccines have reduced efficacy against Omicron without a booster shot, we're to make of this: 'get a booster shot'.
Also, I'm seeing 48 percent of people in Victorian hospitals are vaccinated, and all 50 or so in ICU are not vaccinated:
190,999 Coronavirus Cases and 31,461 Active in Victoria - COVID Live
All 52 ICU cases in Victoria are unvaccinated.
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I watched all 3+ hours of the conversation with Joe Rogan, as usual Joe did a superb job, sat back asked insightful questions and sought clarifications on some issues... Malone did the vast majority of the talking, he addressed issues like the mRNA inventor and the craving attention claims, Rogan is very respectful of his guests but he is most definitely not a soft ball interviewer, he has an amazing memory for facts, figures, research papers etc and holds guests to account, just ask Sanjay Gupta.
Malone is a highly articulate and obviously knows his stuff.
BTW grifter accusations are becoming boring, it's an additional way to dismiss and demean a view you don't agree with, it's in the meaningless basket along with antivaxxer and conspiracy theorist. If a pejorative is used too much it becomes meaningless, save it for clear cases.
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But like anything in life, individual disappointment and bitterness can be real.
Sure he is a voice and worth listening to but is very much in the minority
No I don't agree with him on every single thing he has ever said, just because someone(anyone for that matter) says something you don't agree with doesn't mean you wipe everything they have ever said.M Malice
Do you believe that Covid vaccines are ineffective and programs should be stopped? Malone does.
Debunking claim by Dr Robert Malone that India withheld info about Ivermectin from US govt
Dr Robert Malone insinuated that India somehow withheld the use of Ivermectin from the United States government | OpIndia News
Do you believe that countries should not have vaccinated their populations? Malone does.
The Vaccine Scientist Spreading Vaccine Misinformation
Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA technology. Why is he trying so hard to undermine its use?
He went on Bannon's show to dis mRNA vaccinations.
He thinks his invention was stolen from him, when people involved say things like “the achievement of the mRNA vaccines of today is the accomplishment of a lot of collaborative efforts.”
"Low credibility":
Washington Times article by Robert Malone and Peter Navarro relies on inaccurate and unsubstantiated claims about virus evolution, vaccine immunity, and COVID-19 vaccine safety
"This article has inaccuracies throughout with a clear view to push an anti-vaccine agenda. The picture depicting a skull with eyes and nose made of coronaviruses in the shape of the U.S. is sensationalist. The opening line calls it Biden’s strategy. It was also Trump’s and is the strategy of...
He's a grifter. He's bitter. He's wrong.
My opinion on vaccines is they should not be required to carry on a normal life eg. shopping, restaurants, pubs, gyms, public transport etc. In certain clearly defined settings with highly vulnerable people eg. nursing homes(Flu vaccine) I'm fine with them being required, in saying that I am a bit hesitant re the mRNA vaccines being mandatory because in my view they were rushed.
In an ideal world I would not have got the vaccination but I weighed up the pros and cons and decided to get it.
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Refugee detention is reprehensible and a stain on Australia. Refugees and TPVs should be dealt with how Vic did with with Kosovo 99.
The fact you would try and score political points arguing the same policy for 2 states is simply reprehensible
Yes he is in the minority but that doesn't automatically mean he is wrong, the majority does not always mean that it is the truth.
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I think his argument goes that most of the same RWNJ's that were cheering on the Minister having the power to order mandatory detention of Refugees (Lebbo, Clokeshankedit, Mouncey etc) are the same people that are now all up in arms about the Minister having the power to order lockdowns.
It seems it wasnt the power itself they were concerned about.
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He's clearly saying shit against the consensus (which is fine, that's partly how science works).
The issue with him is he repeatedly says shit that is blatantly and deliberately untrue and deliberate misinformation. This is why he's gotten himself booted from a number of platforms.
If you have science that shows vaccines dont work, or are dangerous, or horse de-wormer is a good option I'm all ears. He doesnt have any science though' just outright fabrications and lies.
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Safe from what? All this mantra of safety. 99.85% survival. What are you afraid of exactly?
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I have one mask that I wash and re-use.
Plastic has a huge environmental impact , masks don't.
Was yr post a joke or do you want masks banned for the benefit of lip readers?
