Mason Cox's success is embarrassing for the AFL

[VineyIsLORD]

Its easy being skilled when the most body contact you can expect is body against body and not much more. As skilled as these basketballs and soccer players are under very little physical contact, how would they be executing in a 360 degree game where bodies crash into each other? The basketballers might handle it a bit better because there are a few errant elbows here and there, but soccer players being flung to the ground let alone being bumped with the force AFL players are would lead to an incredible rise in Oscar nominations and a huge increase in tissue sales the world over.

Basketball is a 360 degree game where bodies crash into eachother. On a hardwood floor.

People that have played both almost always say basketball is just as physical, just in different ways.

And fights during basketball > fights in AFL

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Well i read most if not all.
And from what i understand is, you are adamant that NBL is a more skillful game than AFL, is that correct?
There fore what you are preaching is that NBL players are more skillful in general than an AFL player, is that correct?
I am not arguing which is the most skilled sport.
From what i take from your posts is you think because an NBL player has better skills, they could try their hand and become elite at any sport.
I would love to see an NBL player win a major at golf.

Ok i can see where the confusion is now. Im using the term AFL to identify the sport of Aussie Rules. Not the actual league.

Pretend i said footy instead of AFL. And when I've said football i meant soccer.

 

[FuManchu]

Basketball is a 360 degree game where bodies crash into eachother. On a hardwood floor.

People that have played both almost always say basketball is just as physical, just in different ways.

And fights during basketball > fights in AFL

its the momentum that the tackles in AFL carry where you can build up speed from greater distances and jump into packs that is the difference. Its a different sort of contact and for all the time I played both sports, I never felt that I was in any real danger except for the odd elbow whilst playing basketball.

 

[Drewie11]

Not as embarrassing as Lindsay Thomas

 

[VineyIsLORD]

its the momentum that the tackles in AFL carry where you can build up speed from greater distances and jump into packs that is the difference. Its a different sort of contact and for all the time I played both sports, I never felt that I was in any real danger except for the odd elbow whilst playing basketball.

Yeah id agree with that. The big hits in AFL are some of the most dangerous collisions in all of world sport.

If you play the 4 or 5 in basketball against decent opposition you are almost certainly finishing the game with about a dozen or so stray elbows having been planted all over your back and face.

And when a little bloke is on a fast break and a 7 footer decides to flatten him, well, things can get pretty serious considering the hardwood surface.

 

[Linda Lovelace]

Basketball is a 360 degree game where bodies crash into eachother. On a hardwood floor.

People that have played both almost always say basketball is just as physical, just in different ways.

And fights during basketball > fights in AFL

Physicality is of course part of the game, but it is a mostly a non-contact sport and there is a reason teams can play 82 regular season games and the possibility of 28 games in the playoffs, buddy.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Physicality is of course part of the game, but it is a mostly a non-contact sport and there is a reason teams can play 82 regular season games and the possibility of 28 games in the playoffs, buddy.

Definitely for the wing players. Theyd only really get clobbered going for rebounds occasionally or on a fast break.

And the NBA has severe penalties for hard fouls that didnt previously exist. But go watch a local A grade mens league in the burbs and people will be outright brawling.

Always used to enjoy looking at the noticeboard in suburban courts to see who was the latest person suspended for life.

 

[doppleganger]

Definitely for the wing players. Theyd only really get clobbered going for rebounds occasionally or on a fast break.

And the NBA has severe penalties for hard fouls that didnt previously exist. But go watch a local A grade mens league in the burbs and people will be outright brawling.

Always used to enjoy looking at the noticeboard in suburban courts to see who was the latest person suspended for life.

A league surburban basketball is hardly "skillful".

 

[LoungeLizard]

Ok i can see where the confusion is now. Im using the term AFL to identify the sport of Aussie Rules. Not the actual league.

Pretend i said footy instead of AFL. And when I've said football i meant soccer.

So now i am confused.
So you just mean the "game of footy" not at the elite level?
Well colour me purple, you don't need much skill to be able to play footy, you don't need much skill to play BB.
What are you actually arguing about?

 

[Gigantor]

Even tiddlywinks is hard if you don't practice - but it is a game we can all master.

I suspect we'd all lose at darts if we tried to play it at the elite level.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

So now i am confused.
So you just mean the "game of footy" not at the elite level?
Well colour me purple, you don't need much skill to be able to play footy, you don't need much skill to play BB.
What are you actually arguing about?

Well i have tried to make it very clear to you but you dont seem to understand.

 

[LoungeLizard]

Well i have tried to make it very clear to you but you dont seem to understand.

And i have asked the questions and you make it more confusing.
I really think it's you that doesn't understand.
I'll ask again:
Why are NBL players more skilled than AFL players?

 

[VineyIsLORD]

And i have asked the questions and you make it more confusing.
I really think it's you that doesn't understand.
I'll ask again:
Why are NBL players more skilled than AFL players?

FMD man

 

[LoungeLizard]

FMD man

Sorry i said AFL again didn't i?
So i take it all this time you were just talking crap?
But jeeze, i really thought you were saying because an athlete in their field is a better athlete, then they could transition to any sport below them.
Do you understand that AFL at the elite level, and NBL at the elite level are different sports?
Just give me an example of 1 NBL player that can even kick a football 50 metres

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Sorry i said AFL again didn't i?
So i take it all this time you were just talking crap?
But jeeze, i really thought you were saying because an athlete in their field is a better athlete, then they could transition to any sport below them.
Do you understand that AFL at the elite level, and NBL at the elite level are different sports?
Just give me an example of 1 NBL player that can even kick a football 50 metres

You are making up arguments in your head and attributing them to me.

But as for your example, Dean Brogan easily transitioned from NBL to AFL

 

[LoungeLizard]

You are making up arguments in your head and attributing them to me.

But as for your example, Dean Brogan easily transitioned from NBL to AFL

Oh, so we can go back to "AFL" now, and from that example, you are definitely describing the transition, and that's what i thought you were arguing in the 1st place.

 

[IllBeTheJudge]

Just give me an example of 1 NBL player that can even kick a football 50 metres

Dean Brogan easily transitioned from NBL to AFL

As I read the question I immediately thought, "Dean Brogan" and then thought, LL really should have said, "give me two examples"

 

[Gigantor]

You are making up arguments in your head and attributing them to me.

But as for your example, Dean Brogan easily transitioned from NBL to AFL

Brogan was born in Adelaide - are you saying he never played footy in Adelaide as a kid?

 

[LoungeLizard]

As I read the question I immediately thought, "Dean Brogan" and then thought, LL really should have said, "give me two examples"

Actually, i stuffed up big time saying NBL, i was meaning all this time NBA

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Oh, so we can go back to "AFL" now, and from that example, you are definitely describing the transition, and that's what i thought you were arguing in the 1st place.

I was responding to your question.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

As I read the question I immediately thought, "Dean Brogan" and then thought, LL really should have said, "give me two examples"

LOL I wouldn't imagine he knows what he's saying anyway

 

[LoungeLizard]

I was responding to your question.

yep, i know, but you change from AFL to footy, very confusing.

 

[IllBeTheJudge]

Actually, i stuffed up big time saying NBL, i was meaning all this time NBA

Haha, no kidding!

I can't imagine anyone earning the coin in NBA even considering anything like AFL, ever. Even NCAA

That would be like quitting the NFL to take up Rugby Sevens

 

[LoungeLizard]

LOL I wouldn't imagine he knows what he's saying anyway

Really?
I asked questions to understand what the hell you are actually arguing and you won't answer them.

 

[LoungeLizard]

Haha, no kidding!

I can't imagine anyone earning the coin in NBA even considering anything like AFL, ever. Even NCAA

That would be like quitting the NFL to take up Rugby Sevens

Yep, too true.
But the argument (i think) Viney is arguing is, NBA players would make the transition to elite AFL.
My argument to that is, they are completely different sports, yes 1 or 2 maybe could do it.
Viney's seems to be arguing that because they are more skillful, but i would like to know, in what way.