Maynard cleared by tribunal for Brayshaw collision

[Corn Cobbers]

THE AFL has opted against appealing the Tribunal's decision in the Brayden Maynard case, meaning the Collingwood defender is in the clear to play in the Magpies' preliminary final.

AFL ponders rule change after Maynard Tribunal call

The Brayden Maynard saga is officially over after the AFL opted not to appeal the Tribunal's decision

www.afl.com.au

The AFL, having brought the charge against Maynard, said on Wednesday that it would not challenge the Tribunal's ruling, but would comment further later in the day.

"The AFL has confirmed that after careful consideration and review of the Tribunal's decision and reasons following last night's hearing into the incident involving Collingwood's Brayden Maynard and Melbourne's Angus Brayshaw, the AFL has decided not to appeal the Tribunal's decision," a statement read.

"Per the Tribunal Guidelines the AFL had to make this decision by 12:00pm AEST today.

"The AFL will release a further statement later today."

Finally some sanity

 

[Coasters7]

A poor point? I think it's a poor observation if you can't see that Maynard wasn't driving his shoulder but attempting a smother.

Even slowed down you can see he has very little time to react before Maynard's arms drop, as opposed to "driving" his shoulder.

That footage makes it worse for me. You can clearly see him lean into it and turn and push his shoulder into Brayshaw rather than “bracing” and absorbing the hit. He definitely creates more force than there needed to be.

 

[believe_it]

From the Afl site. Steele Sidebottom

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has described teammate Brayden Maynard

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327.8

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20.7

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14.0

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6.7

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3.9

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3.0

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417.4

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as a "hard and fair" player.
Hmm maybe just leave it at fair and leave out anything that could be construed as a routinely aggressive mindset.

 

[Deepthroat]

What if Maynard put his hands up to soften the blow like youve stated, and his fingers go directly into both Brayshaws eyes and he loses both eyeballs?

Would have shown "duty of care".

Play on.

 

[Makeshft_Mauler]

From the Afl site. Steele Sidebottom has described teammate Brayden Maynard as a "hard and fair" player.
Hmm maybe just leave it at fair and leave out anything that could be construed as a routinely aggressive mindset.

i always loved it when team mates trott out the hard but fair argument

Im sure if tom lynch had done what maynard did someone from richmond would come out and say "well we love the way tommy plays, he just plays on the edge, hard but fair"

 

[Roby]

The contact was only inevitable once he recklessly jumped into Brayshaws path

This is where he starts his jump. It's not in his path.

 

[sr36]

The expectation will be that Maynard use his extended hands to reduce the impact when he landed down on Brayshaw.

Have you thought this through, visualized it or understand the physics of it at all?

Two large men moving quickly at each other one of them coming down to earth in a superman pose - his arms strethed out ahead of him incredibly rigid to significantly slow the momentum of either of the body masses and reduce the force of the impact between bodies. He would have been like a spear striking Brayshaw. It would have been the dirtiest looking act that we've seen on the football field for many a year. You'd be advocating 10 weeks - and he'd deserve it if he had've significantly reduced the impact of the bodies with extended arms like you're suggesting.

What people are suggesting as a method to reduce risk at the point of collision is just bonkers. It is and always will be turn, shift your head out of the firing line if possible, brace for impact and hope the other player does the same. End of story.

There might be a case for suspension for the launch, but those looking to suspend players for turning and bracing for impact are nuts and are advocating for the game to become much more dangerous with many more concussions. Just bonkers.

 

[Deepthroat]

- his arms strethed out ahead of him incredibly rigid

Incredibly rigid is silly.

You use the arms to decrease the impact.

A bit like landing on your feet when you jump off a height. Do you extend your legs rigid or bend them?

 

[sr36]

Incredibly rigid is silly.

You use the arms to decrease the impact.

A bit like landing on your feet when you jump off a height. Do you extend your legs rigid or bend them?

They were moving at each other. You clearly don't understand the physics of it. We're still talking a big impact between bodies, unless he's rigid and forcing Brayshaw from moving forwards to moving back before his body catches up. What your advocating isn't safer, it's more dangerous - for a start if Maynard doesn't brace, twist and lean his head away you're dramatically increasing the risk of head knocks.

 

[GoPies1]

Here is the evidence that will get Maynard off.
He has both hands on Brayshaws arm attempting to push him away from the impact.
Maynard rotates left to lower the cross section of his body to try and clear a space to his right and push Brayshaw into that space.
Let’s see if I’m correct!

 

[greatwhiteshark]

So many on here think football is played in slow motion. No idea.

 

[Chief]

View attachment 1799957
Here is the evidence that will get Maynard off.
He has both hands on Brayshaws arm attempting to push him away from the impact.
Maynard rotates left to lower the cross section of his body to try and clear a space to his right and push Brayshaw into that space.
Let’s see if I’m correct!

However he was in the air, at that speed, directly at Brayshaw.

That's where he becomes liable. Anything after that might increase or mitigate the damage and punishment, but he is liable.

 

[Belnakor]

View attachment 1799957
Here is the evidence that will get Maynard off.
He has both hands on Brayshaws arm attempting to push him away from the impact.
Maynard rotates left to lower the cross section of his body to try and clear a space to his right and push Brayshaw into that space.
Let’s see if I’m correct!

if he was doing that why did he drop his shoulder into his face

 

[Belnakor]

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This is where he starts he's jump. It's not in his path.

you know that shot is on an angle yeah?

 

[Maze]

I always thought tackling was a football action. How many players have been suspended this year for tackles?

I thought it was a legitimate attempt at a smother not a tackle. Once he attempted this, he had no other alternative as both players have forward momentum. Many players that have been suspended have had alternatives....

 

[greatwhiteshark]

However he was in the air, at that speed, directly at Brayshaw.

That's where he becomes liable. Anything after that might increase or mitigate the damage and punishment, but he is liable.

Players are in the air all the time, every mark attempt you are in the air. Every ruck knock. If you leave the ground should you be liable for all injuries no matter what?
No different jumping in the air to spoil a kick than to take a mark.
I have no doubt he will get suspended but it will be a suspension for nothing in my view. He did nothing wrong at all, he accidently fell on an opponent. Bad luck to Brayshaw unfortunately.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

if he was doing that why did he drop his shoulder into his face

yes he had much more time to do something else especially in the slow motion replay.

 

[Captivating]

you know that shot is on an angle yeah?

Wrong. Look at the centre circle, the centre square and the location of Maynard's opponent.

 

[Belnakor]

yes he had much more time to do something else especially in the slow motion replay.

he had time to move his body and drop his shoulder, so yeah he had time to do something else.

 

[Belnakor]

Wrong. Look at the centre circle, the centre square and the location of Maynard's opponent.

So was Brayshaw running at a 0 degree angle at the camera was he

 

[GoPies1]

if he was doing that why did he drop his shoulder into his face

That’s called physics- as a mass loses propulsion it decelerates, loses energy and returns to earth via gravity.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

I always thought tackling was a football action. How many players have been suspended this year for tackles?

Of all the players who were suspended for dangerous tackles in 2023, I don't think a single one was trying to injure or concuss their opponent. Intent does not matter when you are reckless.

 

[GoPies1]

However he was in the air, at that speed, directly at Brayshaw.

That's where he becomes liable. Anything after that might increase or mitigate the damage and punishment, but he is liable.

Brayshaw was not static, his motion has to be accounted for and it would actually halve the time to impact between the two.
Any action to avoid contact has to be considered on the Maynard side as if Brayshaw was static.
Then the response time reconsidered to include Brayshaws speed to verify his efforts to avoid contact

 

[Captivating]

However he was in the air, at that speed, directly at Brayshaw.

That's where he becomes liable. Anything after that might increase or mitigate the damage and punishment, but he is liable.

No he isn't. The AFL are liable for not providing a safe workplace. They should have implemented rules to stop this. Maynard did nothing against the rules of the game.

 

[bomberclifford]

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This is where he starts he's jump. It's not in his path.

Neither is the ball, which is strange for an attempted smother.

 

[Maddo11]

No he isn't. The AFL are liable for not providing a safe workplace. They should have implemented rules to stop this. Maynard did nothing against the rules of the game.

Um.. late high contact isn't legal bud