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McClure and Caro issue formal apologies over Crows camp reporting
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As I've said before there was so much wrong with the camp and how the club handled it
However, Mclure did himself no favours with that tweet that was meant to be a 'wink wink nudge nudge' to the AFL industry. The fact he has since deleted it almost looks worse than the original apology.
However, Mclure did himself no favours with that tweet that was meant to be a 'wink wink nudge nudge' to the AFL industry. The fact he has since deleted it almost looks worse than the original apology.
There's absolutely no suggestion in those media releases that anything that was reported was actually untrue, which I think should be fairly disconcerting for anyone looking for exoneration. The apology just says that the parties acknowledge that the camp was run in "good faith and with the players' interests front of mind" which only means that the camp operators didn't go out of their way to harm players, not that the camp operators didn't cause any harm at all.
If there had been anything substantially untrue about the allegations, then Collective Mind wouldn't have settled for mere legal costs and a "sorry for any offence that may have been caused" footnote in a newspaper, given all the damage that this must have caused their reputation. Obviously this settlement was reached because the finding that there was no legal wrongdoing took away the quickest and easiest path the media outlets had to prevent this from degenerating into a protracted legal battle. If you believe in the sincerity of "retractions" issued under threat of scorched-earth litigation then you're as dumb as someone who believes everything that an AFL journo has to say.
If there had been anything substantially untrue about the allegations, then Collective Mind wouldn't have settled for mere legal costs and a "sorry for any offence that may have been caused" footnote in a newspaper, given all the damage that this must have caused their reputation. Obviously this settlement was reached because the finding that there was no legal wrongdoing took away the quickest and easiest path the media outlets had to prevent this from degenerating into a protracted legal battle. If you believe in the sincerity of "retractions" issued under threat of scorched-earth litigation then you're as dumb as someone who believes everything that an AFL journo has to say.
from a reputation perspective, they’ve been destroyed. There are a plethora of articles, webpages and videos associating them to the infamous camp. Any average Joe doing a basic web surf will come across them. Highly doubt they’re going to start waiving the apology o prospective clients as a means of acquiring business…
No but the sort of people who hire them aren't looking very closely anyway. A quick scan of their website would tell any critical reader that it is a bunch of bullshit made up by people with no qualifications in the field.
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I’m not sure how she got that crown. She didn’t expose it. Damien Barrett did. Caro was just the AFL’s go-to journalist (like Sheahan before her) so spent the whole saga running whatever they told her to.
Had Caro actually been the journalist who got the story, fair chance it never would’ve seen the light of day. She had masters at the AFL.
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She won an prestigious journalist award for it though I believe, although makes you wonder if it was engineered AFL propaganda (her winning that gong, which really wouldn't surprise me)
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Considering the stick he gets on here (...well, everywhere), that's quite the feather in his cap that neither he nor his publicist boasts about. Annoying prick perhaps but he may deserve a bit of credit or at least some slack cut from his "sliding doors".
I don't think anyone on here is suggesting it is an exoneration or that there was no truth to any of it. Some of media reports were clearly wrong, not saying the journalist made them up but they trusted the wrong sources.
You do have to acknowledge media companies and journalist don't apologize and take down content very often. It hurts the journalist reputation no matter which way you look at it. They didn't do the media release to be nice people.
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I guess the major question here is: Did they "trust wrong sources" (in that what they were saying wasn't accurate) or did they trust the wrong sources (in that they wouldn't repeat what they said in court*)?
* which leads to many, many other questions as to why
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The key source was a person who wasn't there (a spouse), who was backed up by a player who was eyeing a role in the mediaand wanted to cultivate a relationship.
The logical thing for a journalist to do would have been to take these sources with a grain of salt and proceed with caution, but instead they proceeded with reckless ambition.
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A full and public apology, combined with payment of all legal expenses and complete removal of all evidence of the articles' existence is about as big an admission of fault as you can get without proceeding to legal damages.
So what you are saying is that all is well with the camp and there were no casualties or disgruntled players who left the club? YepAhhh the port power supporter coming in to offer his unbiased opinion
In a way it is an apology to the Adelaide football club and if you can’t see that take your Port Power glasses off. These news articles said that Adelaide were allowing things such as racial abuse, tied to trees naked and so on. All of these are now proven to be wrong as their is no evidence of anything like that happening. This is why they are apologising and paying their legal fees. The stories they produced about Collective minds and the ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB were rubbish. Complete Morons…. You said it
Just a Crows ambassador who masks himself an unbiased media commentator.
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Should do as was won on false pretences, which sums up his so called "journalism".
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& lost her main source once AD left as CEO...
Caro has never been a journalist’s bum hole. She’s a nasty gossip monger. Uses her profile and her inside AFL house deals to kick every team in the guts... except her beloved Richmond.
I get journos have bias but she’s a campaigner. And I don’t say that lightly. She is on my list of people I won’t brake for if they are crossing the road.
McLure I don’t rate enough to call him names
I get journos have bias but she’s a campaigner. And I don’t say that lightly. She is on my list of people I won’t brake for if they are crossing the road.
McLure I don’t rate enough to call him names
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Hopefully this spells the end for garbage like Wilson and McClure. Just make up stuff that ruins peoples lives .
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Thanks for your opinion Mr Wilson
The apology seems pretty clear that it's specific to suggestions they made about the people running Collective Minds and their intentions and/or motives.
There's no mention of stuff they said about the camp itself in the apology is there?
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Yes Bacon Buster, haven't you read the BF posting rules. ' Due to the supplements saga, no Essendon supporter is permitted to make any critical comment of whatever nature concerning another AFL club or its supporters'.
