I'd like to change just to see if the Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne could get 85k at the ground.
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MCG Anzac Day match 2011 , If it was your choice , which 2 teams would play.
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We now equate ANZAC Day with attendance figures?
I hope they only conscript Collingwood and Essendon supporters in future.
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Were you given friday nights on a platter?
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From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_Night_Football_(Australia)
Also note: this is 3 years before the NRL did Friday nights (they were however doing monday nights at this time)
smasha
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I went to one and the crowd was in the mid 50ks and no atmosphere because there were no Richmond supporters ripping the roof off.
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Collingwood and Essendon are going to forfeit their friday night fixtures and hand them to North?
COLLINGWOOD vs. ESSENDON
15 years of tradition, a very successful event finacially through attendance and ratings and 2 clubs who do a great job of recognising the contribution of the ANZAC's. If its not broke, dont fix it. Sure Essendon got a bath last season but what's to say if it was a GF rematch that Collingwood wouldn't touch up the Saints again like the GF replay. Either way, it doesn't matter, because the AFL is smart and the $ will always be more important than arguable 'fairness'.
Besides I wouldn't want to travel all the way to Turkey to see my team play in a few years time
15 years of tradition, a very successful event finacially through attendance and ratings and 2 clubs who do a great job of recognising the contribution of the ANZAC's. If its not broke, dont fix it. Sure Essendon got a bath last season but what's to say if it was a GF rematch that Collingwood wouldn't touch up the Saints again like the GF replay. Either way, it doesn't matter, because the AFL is smart and the $ will always be more important than arguable 'fairness'.
Besides I wouldn't want to travel all the way to Turkey to see my team play in a few years time
'95 - drawn
'96 - Pies 12 points
'97 - Pies 29 points
'98 - Pies 20 points
'99 - Dons 8 points
'00 - Dons 40 points
'01 - Dons 8 points
'02 - Pies 33 points
'03 - Dons 66 points
'04 - Dons 33 points
'05 - Dons 14 points
'06 - Pies 17 points
'07 - Pies 16 points
'08 - Pies 73 points
'09 - Dons 5 points
'10 - Pies 65 points
Pies - 8
Dons - 7
Draw - 1
Yep, just a training run for Collingwood
If you're a minnow club that wants a big game, then go and carve out something else. I say that because the majority of Carlton, Richmond and Hawthorn fans I come across don't care so much for playing on ANZAC Day. Obviously means a bit of that little man syndrome is going round. :\
that ****ed 'em.
Joke?
GF1 was the highest attendance for a Grand Final in AFL history. Not sure what world you are on, but in this world that suggests they can fill the MCG for a grand final.
GF2 I assume your comment was targeted at, even though GF1 makes your statement redundant.
to be fair, the OP did specifically ask what people would change if they had the chance, so I don't see why anyone would get shitty.
Just in the same way that it's an entirely boring subject, because the simple fact of the matter is, despite all the hand-wringing, the AFL aren't going to change it. It's good to see what is probably the majority of posters saying leave it as it is; and it really shows up the hyperbole of the change for it's own sake it's so unfair brigade.
This is the only point I take issue with. What a load of rot. The only way you can compare a one off annual game with a weekly normal H&A round is via the incredibly tenuous link that North pioneered Friday nights. There's no other way to compare them, so it's just stupid. It really is.
I mean, think about what you're saying. You really think that one team should always have a 7 day break? And that TV networks would be happy having the same team every single Friday night?
Give me a break
What I've said every year for the last 5 years when this topic inevitably comes up, and the risible suggestion that North should get Friday night inevitably comes up, is this:
Compare apples with apples. Instead of moaning about completely stupid, unrealistic scenarios, try something realistic that will assist your club.
I would be happy to see North get Good Friday as recognition of their "pioneering" work for Fridays. I'd see that as a very good reward, and it's actually realistic, rather than this complete bullshit about them getting every Friday night. Actually go away, and make a day of it; just like Collingwood and Essendon have done
Just in the same way that it's an entirely boring subject, because the simple fact of the matter is, despite all the hand-wringing, the AFL aren't going to change it. It's good to see what is probably the majority of posters saying leave it as it is; and it really shows up the hyperbole of the change for it's own sake it's so unfair brigade.
This is the only point I take issue with. What a load of rot. The only way you can compare a one off annual game with a weekly normal H&A round is via the incredibly tenuous link that North pioneered Friday nights. There's no other way to compare them, so it's just stupid. It really is.
I mean, think about what you're saying. You really think that one team should always have a 7 day break? And that TV networks would be happy having the same team every single Friday night?
Give me a break
What I've said every year for the last 5 years when this topic inevitably comes up, and the risible suggestion that North should get Friday night inevitably comes up, is this:
Compare apples with apples. Instead of moaning about completely stupid, unrealistic scenarios, try something realistic that will assist your club.
I would be happy to see North get Good Friday as recognition of their "pioneering" work for Fridays. I'd see that as a very good reward, and it's actually realistic, rather than this complete bullshit about them getting every Friday night. Actually go away, and make a day of it; just like Collingwood and Essendon have done
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In 2011, probably Collingwood and St Kilda. For a one-off fixture, the two teams responsible for a drawn GF the year before would be a good start.
That said, despite all the chest-beating it is just another H&A game, so I don't really care.
That said, despite all the chest-beating it is just another H&A game, so I don't really care.
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I know what you mean, I'm annoyed Carlton get to pay their best player outside of the salary cap in the name of helping the environment.
Then again, I'm just a hater like you.
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Mate Good Friday will happen I have no doubt; just a question of who and when.
That aside though, it doesn't have to be a public holiday (unless you want to play it the EXACT day every year, like a Tuesday). Plenty of opportunity, and clubs / AFL pursuing it, such as Richmond-Carlton season opener, Queens Birthday etc etc. The GF replay IMO was one that has been tried in the last few years in Round 1 that just doesn't seem to work at the same level - personally I reckon its because the last game you see is the GF, and you don't really want it to be the first....
The major point that is continually overlooked by many who feel left out or denied in some way is that these rivalries / events simply CANNOT be manufactured, particularly between traditionally low drawing clubs.
Disagree with most of that. It IS deserved, both through the effort of the clubs and supporters.
As for the parallels, I don't so much (not that its ever done with any seriousness) because the entire day is done in complete deference to the ANZACs. I mean, we have 80,000+ every year honouring the ANZACs - this tradition helps support the memory.
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Predictably arrogant.
You also need to look up the meaning of the word "tenuous".
Make a day of it?
How much competition have Essendon and Collingwood had to fight off for the ANZAC Day timeslot?
It's a 100% given, a lay down misere, a garaunteed winner before the whistle has been blown. The AFL have never even entertained giving anyone else the slightest look in, so I can hardly see how these two clubs have forged this event against overwhelming odds with sweat and grit.
Amazing double standards in relation to "pioneering" on display here.
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Looking forward to the build up in 2011. Lets honour our fallen diggers by sending out the worse team we have in Victoria and as in 2010 make no effort to have anything to do with a contest. Lets give the brave Bombers this game every year - end of the day they put their heads to together and thunk of it furrrrst!
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maybe you could write to the AFL or something?
johncitizen
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It was Kevin Sheedy's idea and he took it to Allan Mcallister the ex Pies President. They ran it past RSL President Bruce Ruxton and then approached the AFL with the idea. They have made it such a success that numbers to the shrine on the morning of the game have risen tenfold. Leave it as it is.
Collingwood V Fremantle next year, would still sell out, big tourism boon.
Or maybe the previous years GF match up, Collingwood V St Kilda.
Or maybe the previous years GF match up, Collingwood V St Kilda.
Care to give some odds mouth ?
I`m sure the worst team in Victoria beat that bunch of handout beggars you follow in the season just gone.
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You picked the wrong game to go to then, the average is over 82,000 per year and the atmosphere is incredible.
Pies and Bombers respect eachother, marketed it (when nobody else wanted it) and continue to promote it.
Richmond had the chance to set up a regular Round 1 against Collingwood several years ago but in a shortsighted move reneged on the gatetakings deal to make a few extra quid. Collingwood were disappointed when this happened and pulled the pin.
As a Richmond supporter, why do you have issues when your team is trying to do the same thing with a regular Round 1 against Carlton and a Dreamtime match against Essendon? If Richmond/Essendon Dreamtime ends up being of a similar significance in time, will you ask that that be shared around? The same with Round 1 against the Blues, let's share that around?
Obviously from your post it is not necesssary to understand things in order to
argue about them. I personally haven't missed one and the atmosphere at the bounce is the best of the H & A season.
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