Expectations for your team in 2025, do you expect your team to make the finals?

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WillHayward said:
I expect us to miss the 8.

Surely the other teams have figured us out by now?

Clamp down on Gulden, Warner and Heeney and it's game over. We crumble like grandma's famous apple bake.
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I take my hat off to posters who are pessimistic about their clubs.
Most posters around here have their head in the clouds in terms of their teams making finals.
 
aussierulesrules said:
For us, an awful lot of it is likely to come down to injuries, again. This upcoming season in particular, as we’ve lost/delisted a quarter of our list now, which means we’re likely to have less experienced depth than we’ve had in recent years. We’re going to have an awful lot of kids on the list.

So if we get a lot of injuries again (as we have the last 4 seasons- regularly missing up to 8-10 of our best 23 each season) we’re probably going to struggle, as we likely won’t have the experienced depth to cover them.

If on the other hand we finally have a decent run with injuries, we’ll definitely be aiming for finals.

Were top 6 for all bar one week of the 2023 H&A season (despite said injuries) and then this year we won 5 of our last 6 (only loss to Brisbane) and 8 of our last 12, once we were finally able to get a competitive midfield out on the park. We also started scoring consistently well during that period, which augurs well for us going forward.

So despite lots of injuries, we’ve been a top 6 side for 3/4 of the two years Lyon has been back, and with a good injury run, would be hoping to be that again in 2025. If we get hit hard by injuries again, we’ll probably be bottom 6, like we were for the first half of this year.
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You should have mentioned your injuries.
 
aussierulesrules said:
For us, an awful lot of it is likely to come down to injuries, again. This upcoming season in particular, as we’ve lost/delisted a quarter of our list now, which means we’re likely to have less experienced depth than we’ve had in recent years. We’re going to have an awful lot of kids on the list.

So if we get a lot of injuries again (as we have the last 4 seasons- regularly missing up to 8-10 of our best 23 each season) we’re probably going to struggle, as we likely won’t have the experienced depth to cover them.

If on the other hand we finally have a decent run with injuries, we’ll definitely be aiming for finals.

Were top 6 for all bar one week of the 2023 H&A season (despite said injuries) and then this year we won 5 of our last 6 (only loss to Brisbane) and 8 of our last 12, once we were finally able to get a competitive midfield out on the park. We also started scoring consistently well during that period, which augurs well for us going forward.

So despite lots of injuries, we’ve been a top 6 side for 3/4 of the two years Lyon has been back, and with a good injury run, would be hoping to be that again in 2025. If we get hit hard by injuries again, we’ll probably be bottom 6, like we were for the first half of this year.
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I’m sorry but St Kilda simply have not been a top 6 side in the comp in 3/4 quarters of the last 2 seasons. Injuries or not.

I would have thought your chairmen’s bleating about how his club can’t compete because they don’t have enough talent and everything is so unfair would have made that plainly obvious.
 
aussierulesrules said:
For us, an awful lot of it is likely to come down to injuries, again. This upcoming season in particular, as we’ve lost/delisted a quarter of our list now, which means we’re likely to have less experienced depth than we’ve had in recent years. We’re going to have an awful lot of kids on the list.

So if we get a lot of injuries again (as we have the last 4 seasons- regularly missing up to 8-10 of our best 23 each season) we’re probably going to struggle, as we likely won’t have the experienced depth to cover them.

If on the other hand we finally have a decent run with injuries, we’ll definitely be aiming for finals.

Were top 6 for all bar one week of the 2023 H&A season (despite said injuries) and then this year we won 5 of our last 6 (only loss to Brisbane) and 8 of our last 12, once we were finally able to get a competitive midfield out on the park. We also started scoring consistently well during that period, which augurs well for us going forward.

So despite lots of injuries, we’ve been a top 6 side for 3/4 of the two years Lyon has been back, and with a good injury run, would be hoping to be that again in 2025. If we get hit hard by injuries again, we’ll probably be bottom 6, like we were for the first half of this year.
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That conveniently excludes the Saints went 6-7 over the last 13 games of 2023. You can't really state how your form was top 6 late this season while ignoring your late season form for 2023.
 

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hawkman said:
That conveniently excludes the Saints went 6-7 over the last 13 games of 2023. You can't really state how your form was top 6 late this season while ignoring your late season form for 2023.
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Sure… but by your premise our poor end to 23 was followed up with a poor start to 24’

So in theory our strong finish in 24’ should be a strong start in 25’ 🤪
 
Even being on the pessimistic side, I don't see us finishing below Eagles or Tiges. That said, we probably sit in a mix with Suns, Dee's, Crows and Saints for the 5 positions above that pair. Though as above EFC posters have said, it's just as likely we sit inside the 8 after the bye, then fade to a 9-12 finish and another meh first round draft pick.
 
I think for Hawthorn there will be some natural progression, however that doesn't mean we will win anymore or less games.
Teams will start to put a bit of time and effort into our game, and start tagging guys like Day and trying to stop our run and carry. As good as our forward line was last year, I feel its still very suspect. I feel we could finish anywhere from 4th-10th
 
Adelaide. I expect us to be anywhere in the 6th to 14th range.

Finishing above 6th will be a A+
Finishing 6th will be a A
Finishing 8th will be a B
Finishing 9-10 will be a C

It depends on many factors like injuries, coaching, winning the close ones and so much more.
 
How will Essendon Fare?

Tricky one.

They definitely underperformed last season due to injuries, lack of depth and awful transition play.
Stringer trade should be addition by subtraction.

Overall they are a pretty young list but have a few prime age almost AA types on each line, and most players on the team should be better then last year.

I think Essendon got better this offseason but a bunch of teams that missed finals also got better this summer.

Best case scenario: team stays fully healthy and a few of the younger high picks have breakout years (Zac Reid, Tsatas, Nick Bryan, Caddy, Kako, Perkins). They fix their transition issues and are as good as any team in the comp.

Likely Scenario: to be in the 14-10 range and miss finals again. Go Strong into the trade period trying to untangle the list Mess Dodorro created
 

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