Roast Media Shakes Head, Part 8

[VineValerian]

Hang on a minute.

The Bond brothers were not even asked if their picture could appear on the trophy - they were TOLD it would appear just a few days before the medal and shield were unveiled. They did not agree or authorise to their image being used in advertising and promotion for every showdown game held since. And no compensation of course - they are just expected to be honoured to have the privilege.

Like it or not, the AFL is a billion dollar national professional sporting competition where TV rights are worth $650m a year and where just about anyone even remotely associated with the game has their hand in the AFL commercial coffers. So how is the way the Bond Brothers treated just or fair?

And how does these two indigenous former players daring to exercise their legal right to a formal agreement and payment for past and ongoing use of their image rights 'not reflect well' on them?

Taylor Walker threatened to sue a shop for using his name on one of their hamburgers FFS.

Both the Crows and Port have agreed to meet with the Bond Brothers to discuss the issue as part of a mediation process btw.

I see this as an issue between the Bonds and the AFL (maybe also the SANFL plus telecast partners, printed media, etc).

The brothers have stated that they and their families were both honoured and humbled by the use of the photo and their images on the trophy, and that both have copies hanging on the walls of their homes. So it really is just a money issue - fair enough too.

Not sure why the clubs have even been brought into this case? In any event, both clubs are happy to mediate on it, and will most likely request the AFL pay whatever sum mediation determines is fair and reasonable, so they are probably the go-betweens to broker a deal.

Doubt if it ever gets to Court - unless the AFL plays hard ball on this. As someone posted, the AFL has all commercial rights to pics, etc to use in whatever way they choose anyway.

Just a pity a simple request for consent wasn't thought of (or ignored) in the first instance. Then there wouldn't be an issue.

 

[manureid]

We should have a trophy in the likeness of Bruce Weber given he is the main reason both clubs are in the AFL.

 

[ibd77]

We should have a trophy in the likeness of Bruce Weber given he is the main reason both clubs are in the AFL.

Well we sought of had a stand named after him on the eastern center wing before the AO blue coats interceded.

 

[Steve Dore]

LEGAL SHOWDOWN

So, the Bond Bros want to sue the Power, the Crows, the SANFL and anyone they can in what is nothing more than a money grab. I would have thought they would have been proud to have their images on the Showdown trophy? Hopefully the issue can be resolved amicably but if not we settle out of court and remove the images from the trophy. Money, money and yet more money is all society is about these days.

Twenty five years ago footy administrators acted in good faith to capture a great moment in local sport now those involved, both of who were free to object at the time, want to cash in. I truly hope this story is a media beatup because if true it is a distasteful affair.

A News Limited photographer took that photo and the players would have granted the AFL media rights to their images taken by accredited AFL and media photographers on game day in their player contract. Not sure on what basis the Bond brothers now claim to own the rights to that image.

I can't see what's "media, shakes head" about a dispute between two ex-players, the two SA AFL clubs and a charity.

 

[ibd77]

Hang on a minute.

The Bond brothers were not even asked if their picture could appear on the trophy - they were TOLD it would appear just a few days before the medal and shield were unveiled. They did not agree or authorise to their image being used in advertising and promotion for every showdown game held since. And no compensation of course - they are just expected to be honoured to have the privilege.

Like it or not, the AFL is a billion dollar national professional sporting competition where TV rights are worth $650m a year and where just about anyone even remotely associated with the game has their hand in the AFL commercial coffers. So how is the way the Bond Brothers treated just or fair?

And how does these two indigenous former players daring to exercise their legal right to a formal agreement and payment for past and ongoing use of their image rights 'not reflect well' on them?

Taylor Walker threatened to sue a shop for using his name on one of their hamburgers FFS.

Both the Crows and Port have agreed to meet with the Bond Brothers to discuss the issue as part of a mediation process btw.

Just cut them out and put the James brothers (Roger & Brett) on it instead? I am sure the James boys wont object to the sentiment of the award and the charity it supports. Heck they would probably show up in their old kit to hold the trophy together.

If Bond brothers had a cultural or personal issues, then their concerns should have been raised immediately. Not sure why 2 years down the track its all of a sudden an issue.

 

[simba_]

yeah there shouldn't be a trophy at all, maybe a medal for BOG

 

[Del165198]

They're probably just upset because the trophy looks like absolute shit

 

[Ford Fairlane]

We lost that Showdown, melt it down and have a new trophy. I nominate the Showdown where Bowen Lockwood

Bowen Lockwood

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0.8

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12.8

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3.8

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stepped on Ben Hart

Ben Hart

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's knackers. A perfect illustration of the glory and pain of sport.

 

[raptalia]

A News Limited photographer took that photo and the players would have granted the AFL media rights to their images taken by accredited AFL and media photographers on game day in their player contract. Not sure on what basis the Bond brothers now claim to own the rights to that image.

I can't see what's "media, shakes head" about a dispute between two ex-players, the two SA AFL clubs and a charity.

It might be a media beat up, if so then I would definitely be shaking my head. The fact that despite a war in Ukraine and a good portion of the world at risk of starvation because of it The Advertiser choose to plaster this all over the front page. Looking at today's rag I reckon I could find at least four stories more worthy of front page treatment, starting with the poor bastard who has been waiting five months to see a specialist after returning a positive bowel cancer screen. Shaking of heads is not just the story but the treatment of the story.

I can't see what's "media, shakes head" about a dispute between two ex-players, the two SA AFL clubs and a charity. Tell that to the Advertiser as they seem to think it is worthy of front page news.

 

[Rising Power]

We lost that Showdown, melt it down and have a new trophy. I nominate the Showdown where Bowen Lockwood stepped on Ben Hart's knackers. A perfect illustration of the glory and pain of sport.

What about the one where bird nose Burton is on the ground with a fist hovering above him? Probably lost that one too though.

 

[tribey]

The trophy is a ******* eyesore anyway just bin it and make a better one.

what about The Showbag Medal?

 

[bomberclifford]

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what about The Showbag Medal?

The chopped off feet. It's like some kid's yr7 homework assignment.

 

[BornPort]

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what about The Showbag Medal?

What the ****.

 

[Steve Dore]

It might be a media beat up, if so then I would definitely be shaking my head. The fact that despite a war in Ukraine and a good portion of the world at risk of starvation because of it The Advertiser choose to plaster this all over the front page. Looking at today's rag I reckon I could find at least four stories more worthy of front page treatment, starting with the poor bastard who has been waiting five months to see a specialist after returning a positive bowel cancer screen. Shaking of heads is not just the story but the treatment of the story.

I can't see what's "media, shakes head" about a dispute between two ex-players, the two SA AFL clubs and a charity. Tell that to the Advertiser as they seem to think it is worthy of front page news.

The Bond brothers have engaged an expensive lawyer and the clubs are aware of their claims. Hardly sounds like a media beat up.

 

[DaTBird187]

The trophy is a ******* eyesore anyway just bin it and make a better one.

A comatose Rhett Biglands trophy would suffice.

 

[PAFC66]

Why the **** is there a showdown trophy anyway.
I could not give a absolute shit about the fact it's a "showdown" this week , just get the 4 points we've got bigger fish to fry.

 

[raptalia]

The Bond brothers have engaged an expensive lawyer and the clubs are aware of their claims. Hardly sounds like a media beat up.

You raise an interesting point about player contracts. I have never seen one so I do not know what is in them but I imagine there is a media clause which allows the AFL an out for the duration of the contract. Beyond the life of the contract who knows obviously the Bonds' expensive lawyer thinks there is a case.

I probably should cut the media some slack as it is Showdown week and any side issue is probably big news in their eyes.

 

[raptalia]

Why the * is there a showdown trophy anyway.
I could not give a absolute s**t about the fact it's a "showdown" this week , just get the 4 points we've got bigger fish to fry.

It will look good in our Trophy Cabinet. We have not accumulated much in the way of silverware over the past twenty years.

 

[Festerz]

The fact that despite a war in Ukraine and a good portion of the world at risk of starvation because of it The Advertiser choose to plaster this all over the front page.

Yep the Adelaide Advertiser has always been at the forefront of reporting on global affairs.

Just as the people who buy it do so for their informed and balanced reporting of same.

 

[Doctor Feel]

I vote Ken gets sacked this game and we then have the Ken Hinkley Memorial Trophy

 

[Byrons Firen]

Don't need a trophy for beating that joke franchise. Just fold them.

The trophy is an attempt to legitimise the camrys and to try to put them on the same level as Port Adelaide. They aren't.

Yep they're a weird mob alright, cobbled together in a panic, conceived in a courtroom and shamelessly copying a footy club they openly detest.

Bound together by the 2 things they have more of than us... money and hate. Little more than a plaything for The Liberals.

If you barrack for them you really don't know them. Ted suits them beautifully

 

[Jimmy95]

You'd think it would be an honour to be on the showdown trophy plus the publicity would also present other commercial opporunities.

Unfortunately as always, money turns people into arseholes.

What next...Ricciouto and Wanganeen suing Adelaide oval for not paying royalties after naming stands in their honour!

Malcolm Blight suing Adelaide Oval for the bronze statue in his honour?

 

[Papa G]

Why the * is there a showdown trophy anyway.
I could not give a absolute s**t about the fact it's a "showdown" this week , just get the 4 points we've got bigger fish to fry.

Plenty of your beloved Victorians have them too.

https://www.hardballget.net/afl-awards-interclub.html

AWARDS - A to Z (active)​	COMPETING TEAMS​	YEARS​
Alan Schwab Memorial Shield	Brisbane-Sydney	1994-
Alec Campbell Cup	Tasmania Devils & Anzac Day opponent	2001-2008
Hawthorn & Anzac Day opponent (Launceston only)	2009-
Anzac Day Trophy	Collingwood-Essendon	2000-
Anzac Day Medal	Collingwood-Essendon (B.O.G.) - retrospective medals awarded in 2011	1995-1999
Collingwood-Essendon (B.O.G.)	2000-
Barker-Whitten Challenge Plate	St Kilda-Western Bulldogs	1997-
Beyond Blue Cup	Hawthorn-Geelong	2006-2012
Hawthorn-Collingwood	2013
Hawthorn-Sydney	2014-2018
Hawthorn-West Coast	2019
Hawthorn-Gold Coast	2020
Blue Ribbon Cup	Hawthorn-St Kilda	1999-
Bob Rose-Charlie Sutton Medal	Collingwood-Western Bulldogs (B.O.G.)	2007-
Brett Kirk Medal	GWS Giants-Sydney (B.O.G.)	2012-
Col Austen Trophy	Hawthorn-Richmond	1996-
David Parkin Cup	Carlton-Hawthorn (winning club)	1998-2002
David Parkin Medal	Carlton-Hawthorn (B.O.G.)	2003-
E.J. Whitten Cup	Essendon-Western Bulldogs	1995-
Frank MacDonald Medal	Tasmania Devils' & Anzac Day opponent's B.O.G. (dual medals)	2001-2008
Hawthorn vs Anzac Day opponent B.O.G. (one medal, Launceston only)	2009-
Glendinning-Allan Medal	Fremantle-West Coast (B.O.G.)	2018 (Rd.20)-
Goodes-O'Loughlin Medal	Sydney & their Sir Doug Nicholls Indigenous Round opponent (B.O.G.)	2016-
HMAS Sydney II Memorial Trophy	Sydney-West Coast	2010-
HMAS Sydney II Best On Ground Award	Sydney-West Coast (B.O.G.)	2010-
Ian Stewart Medal	Richmond-St Kilda (B.O.G.)	2004-
Jack Dyer-Lou Richards Trophy	Collingwood-Richmond	1999-
Kennedy Cup	Port Adelaide & their opponent in Shanghai	2019-
Kevin Sheedy Cup	Essendon-Richmond (all premiership matches)	1998-2011
Essendon-Richmond: Clash of the Sash (the non-Dreamtime game)	2012-
Lockett-Coventry Cup	Collingwood-Sydney	2000-
Madden Trophy ("Madden Cup")	Carlton-Essendon	1997-
Marcus Ashcroft Medal	Brisbane-Gold Coast (B.O.G.)	2011-
Marn Grook Trophy	Sydney-Essendon	2002-2013
Sydney & their Sir Doug Nicholls Indigenous Round opponent	2014-
Neale Daniher Trophy	Collingwood-Melbourne (B.O.G.)	2015-
Nicky Winmar Cup	St Kilda-West Coast	2003-
Peter Badcoe VC Medal	Port Adelaide & their Anzac Day opponent (B.O.G.)	2004-
Peter MacCallum Cup	Collingwood-Carlton (all premiership matches)	1993-2008
Collingwood-Carlton (Collingwood's home game only)	2009-
Polly Farmer Trophy	Geelong-West Coast	1996-
Q Clash Trophy	Brisbane-Gold Coast	2011-
R.D. Barassi Trophy	Carlton-Melbourne	1965-1972 / 2002-
RAC Derby Trophy	Fremantle-West Coast	2019-
Richard Pratt Cup	Carlton-Collingwood (Carlton's home game)	2009-
Richard Pratt Medal	Carlton-Collingwood (Carlton's home game B.O.G.)	2012-
Robert Rose Cup	Collingwood-Western Bulldogs	2000-
Ron Barassi Cup	Melbourne-Sydney	2003-
Shanghai Medal	Port Adelaide & their opponent in Shanghai (B.O.G.)	2017-
Showdown Trophy	Adelaide-Port Adelaide	1997-2017
Showdown Shield	Adelaide-Port Adelaide (official name is the Variety Showdown Shield)	2018-
Showdown Medal	Adelaide-Port Adelaide (B.O.G.)	2000-
Silk-Miller Medal	Hawthorn & St Kilda's B.O.G. in the Blue Ribbon Cup	1999-
Sydney Derby Cup	GWS Giants-Sydney	2019-
Tom Wills Award	Essendon-Geelong (Country Festival match B.O.G.)	2017-
Western Derby Trophy	Fremantle-West Coast	1997-2017 / 2019-
Wills-Harrison Shield	Geelong-Melbourne	1996-c.2001
Wills-Harrison Trophy	Geelong-Melbourne	c.2002-
Yiooken Award	Essendon-Richmond (Dreamtime at the 'G B.O.G.)	2006-
Zaidee Trophy	Hawthorn-Port Adelaide	2011-
AWARDS - A to Z (defunct)​	COMPETING TEAMS​	YEARS​
Albert Thurgood Challenge Trophy	Essendon-Fremantle	1995-unknown
Anzac Day Medal	St Kilda & Anzac Day opponent (New Zealand only)	2013-2014
Archer-Hird Medal	Essendon-North Melbourne	2008-2013
Bartercard Cup	Richmond-St Kilda	1993-c.1995
Berry Street Cup	Melbourne-Richmond	1986-2013
Melbourne-North Melbourne	2014
Bob McCaskill Trophy	Hawthorn-North Melbourne	1952-c.1956
Brent Crosswell Medal	North Melbourne & various opponents B.O.G. (Hobart only)	2012-2015
Carlton Mid Derby Trophy	Fremantle-West Coast	2001-2014
Carlton Draught Derby Trophy	Fremantle-West Coast	2015-2017
Centenary Challenge Cup	Fitzroy-Footscray (Western Bulldogs)	1983
Chateau Cup	Sydney & their first home game opponent	1982
Crowl-McDonald Medal	St Kilda & Carlton B.O.G. (Anzac Day in NZ only)	2015
David Parkin Cup	Carlton-Hawthorn (replaced in 2003 by the David Parkin Medal)	1998-2002
Dockland Trophy	Fremantle-Port Adelaide	1995-2002
Eastcoast Challenge Cup	Footscray (Western Bulldogs) & their first home game opponent	1985-1986
EMU Export Western Derby Trophy	Fremantle-West Coast	1995-2000
Fila Cup	Geelong-Western Bulldogs	2000-2002
Gary Dempsey Medal	North Melbourne-Western Bulldogs	2009
Jason McCartney Medal	Collingwood-North Melbourne	2003-2009 / 2013
Kennedy-McHale Cup	Collingwood-Hawthorn	2000-2002
Lake Premiership Pennant	South Melbourne-St Kilda	1938-1964
Nauru Challenge Cup	Fitzroy-West Coast	1995
Nick Schernickau Trophy	Melbourne-St Kilda	1994-1998
Origin Energy Western Victoria Cup	Geelong-Western Bulldogs	2004-2005
Phillip Walsh Medal	Adelaide-Port Adelaide (B.O.G.)	2015 (Rd.16)
Prime Minister's Cup	GWS & various opponents (Canberra only)	2012-2015
Ross Glendinning Medal	Fremantle-West Coast (B.O.G.) (replaced by the Glendinning-Allan Medal)	2001-2018 (Rd.6)
Sands of Gallipoli Medal	Brisbane's best player (Anzac Day round)	2003-2010
Shanghai Cup	Port Adelaide & their opponent in Shanghai (replaced by Kennedy Cup)	2017-2018
Showdown Trophy	Adelaide-Port Adelaide (replaced in 2018 by the Variety Showdown Shield)	1997-2017
Simpson-Henderson Trophy	St Kilda & their Anzac Day opponent (New Zealand only)	2013-2015
Sir Keith Murdoch Cup	Geelong-North Melbourne	1949-c.1952
T.M. Ferguson Trophy	Hawthorn-Melbourne	1953-1960s
TAC Trophy	Footscray-Richmond	c.1989-c.1993
Westpac Community Cup	Adelaide-Collingwood	2010-2013
White Ribbon Trophy	GWS Giants-Sydney	2012-2018
Wills-Harrison Shield	Geelong-Melbourne (replaced c.2002 by the Wills-Harrison Trophy)	1996-c.2001
WINNING CLUB TROPHY + B.O.G.​	COMPETING TEAMS​	YEARS​
ANZAC DAY - COLLINGWOOD & ESSENDON​
Anzac Day Trophy	Collingwood-Essendon	2000-
Anzac Day Medal	Collingwood-Essendon (B.O.G.) - retrospective medals awarded in 2011	1995-1999
Collingwood-Essendon (B.O.G.)	2000-
ANZAC DAY - NEW ZEALAND​
Simpson-Henderson Trophy	St Kilda & Anzac Day opponent	2013-2015
Anzac Day Medal	St Kilda & Anzac Day opponent (B.O.G.)	2013-2014
Crowl-McDonald Medal	St Kilda & Carlton (B.O.G.)	2015
ANZAC DAY - TASMANIA​
Alec Campbell Cup	Tasmania Devils & Anzac Day opponent	2001-2008
Hawthorn & Anzac Day opponent (Launceston only)	2009-
Frank MacDonald Medal	Tasmania Devils' & Anzac Day opponent's B.O.G. (dual medals)	2001-2008
Hawthorn vs Anzac Day opponent B.O.G. (one medal, Launceston only)	2009-
BLUE RIBBON CUP​
Blue Ribbon Cup	Hawthorn-St Kilda	1999-
Silk-Miller Medal	Hawthorn's B.O.G. & St Kilda's B.O.G.	1999-
DREAMTIME AT THE 'G​
Kevin Sheedy Cup	Essendon-Richmond	2005-2011
Yiooken Award	Essendon-Richmond (B.O.G.)	2006-
HMAS SYDNEY II MEMORIAL GAME​
HMAS Sydney II Memorial Trophy	Sydney-West Coast	2010-
HMAS Sydney II Best On Ground Trophy	Sydney-West Coast (B.O.G.)	2010-
PORT ADELAIDE & THEIR SHANGHAI OPPONENT​
Shanghai Cup	Port Adelaide & their opponent in Shanghai	2017-2018
Kennedy Cup	Port Adelaide & their opponent in Shanghai	2019-
Shanghai Medal	Port Adelaide & their opponent in Shanghai (B.O.G.)	2017-
Q-CLASH​
Q Clash Trophy	Brisbane-Gold Coast	2011-
Marcus Ashcroft Medal	Brisbane-Gold Coast (B.O.G.)	2011-
RICHARD PRATT CUP​
Richard Pratt Cup	Carlton-Collingwood (Carlton's home game)	2009-
Richard Pratt Medal	Carlton-Collingwood (Carlton's home game B.O.G.)	2012-
ROBERT ROSE CUP​
Robert Rose Cup	Collingwood-Western Bulldogs	2000-
Bob Rose-Charlie Sutton Medal	Collingwood-Western Bulldogs (B.O.G.)	2007-
SHOWDOWN​
Showdown Trophy	Adelaide-Port Adelaide	1997-2017
Variety Showdown Shield	Adelaide-Port Adelaide	2018-
Showdown Medal	Adelaide-Port Adelaide (B.O.G.)	2000-
SYDNEY DERBY​
White Ribbon Trophy	GWS Giants-Sydney	2012-2018
Sydney Derby Cup	GWS Giants-Sydney	2019-
Brett Kirk Medal	GWS Giants-Sydney (B.O.G.)	2012-
SYDNEY vs VARIOUS OPPONENTS (INDIGENOUS ROUND)​
Marn Grook Trophy	Sydney-Essendon	2002-2013
Sydney & their Sir Doug Nicholls Indigenous Round opponent	2014-
Goodes-O'Loughlin Medal	Sydney & their Sir Doug Nicholls Indigenous Round opponent (B.O.G.)	2016-
WESTERN DERBY​
EMU Export Western Derby Trophy	Fremantle-West Coast	1995-2000
Carlton Mid Derby Trophy	Fremantle-West Coast	2001-2014
Carlton Draught Derby Trophy	Fremantle-West Coast	2015-2017
RAC Derby Trophy	Fremantle-West Coast	2019-
Ross Glendinning Medal	Fremantle-West Coast (B.O.G.) - retrospective medals awarded in 2018	1995-2000
Ross Glendinning Medal	Fremantle-West Coast (B.O.G.)	2001-2018 (Rd.6)
Glendinning-Allan Medal	Fremantle-West Coast (B.O.G.)	2018 (Rd.20)-
THEMED MATCHES - NO AWARD​	COMPETING TEAMS​	YEARS​
Clash for Cancer (Call to Arms Match)	Essendon-Melbourne	2006-2009
Essendon vs various opponents	2010-
Len Hall Tribute Game	Fremantle's Anzac Round match (note - no trophy/medal)	1996-
Maddie's Match	St Kilda-Richmond (Maddie Riewoldt tribute, Bone Marrow Failure treatment)	2016-
Pink Lady Match	Melbourne vs various opponents (Breast Cancer Network Australia fundraiser)	2005-
Pride Game	Sydney-Fremantle (Diversity and inclusion) - played pre-season	2015
Sydney-St Kilda (Diversity and inclusion)	2016-
Spud's Game: Time 2 Talk	St Kilda-Melbourne (Danny Frawley tribute, mental health awareness)	2021-
AWARDS - EXHIBITION MATCHES​	COMPETING TEAMS​	YEARS​
Barry Cable Trophy	North Melbourne-East Perth	1980
Kaspersky Cup	Brisbane-Melbourne	2010
Syd Jackson Trophy	Indigenous All-Stars vs Carlton	2003
Sir Doug Nicholls Cup	Indigenous All-Stars vs Various Opponents	2005-
Polly Farmer Medal	Indigenous All-Stars vs Various Opponents (B.O.G.)	2005-
AWARDS - RESERVES / UNDER 19s​	COMPETING TEAMS​	YEARS​
Jacob Tootell Shield	Geelong-North Melbourne (Reserves)	1952-unknown
Peter Crimmins Trophy	Fitzroy-Hawthorn (U'19s)	1977-c.1981
Sir Doug Nicholls Cup & B.O.G. Award	Essendon Reserves-Richmond Reserves (VFA-VFL)	2014-

 

[tribey]

What the *.

even the great man can’t upscale it

 

[Doctor Feel]

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what about The Showbag Medal?

That looks like something you throw in the bin because it arrived attached to some religious pamphlet.