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Kane Cornes. What a complete spanner.

I hope we back ourselves and select Reid. If he makes the “brave call” to go home after a year so be it. I can think of several adjectives other than brave which would more appropriately describe such a decision though.
 
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I hate Barrett with every bone in my body


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Barrett is a tool but he inadvertently raises a good point around consistency. The AFL should either do away with priority picks or be more consistent on granting them. I know tanking was an issue in the past, but they can avoid that by making it linked to multiple years of under performance. No club is going to deliberately suck for 2-3 seasons, and if they're in their third season of being shit, I don't see how it hurts the competition at all if they deliberately win only 2 games instead of 4.

While they're at it, they should fix up academy and FS selections (make it that you must match by using at least 1 pick in the round they are selected and remove the 25% discount). Also start deregistering players that tamper with the draft (ie by refusing to leave their state) and make first round (or top 10) players sign up for 3-4 years on their initial contract.
 

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I actually agree with DB on priority picks primarily because there are no public guidelines for all and sundry to see. The hidden process is farcical and then out pops a decision.

But I would also extend the outrage to povo clubs being stumped through VFL grants. If you cannot afford to be in the big league then move onto something you can afford.

AFL Commission don’t know how to, or won’t, make hard decisions.

19th license to Tasmania is another eg of their ineptitude - easy decision. The harder and better decision was to relocate, or close down, a povo club.


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Rowan18 said:
Barrett is a tool but he inadvertently raises a good point around consistency. The AFL should either do away with priority picks or be more consistent on granting them. I know tanking was an issue in the past, but they can avoid that by making it linked to multiple years of under performance. No club is going to deliberately suck for 2-3 seasons, and if they're in their third season of being s**t, I don't see how it hurts the competition at all if they deliberately win only 2 games instead of 4.

While they're at it, they should fix up academy and FS selections (make it that you must match by using at least 1 pick in the round they are selected and remove the 25% discount). Also start deregistering players that tamper with the draft (ie by refusing to leave their state) and make first round (or top 10) players sign up for 3-4 years on their initial contract.
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I’m fine with changing the rule too… but do it after we get a PP!

They aren’t going to ever change the FS and Academy rules so why not accept the one leg up we might actually get


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Vic media are in an uproar over the idea of WCE receiving a PP but Eddie's the only one who's floated the idea, as far as I'm aware.

WCE aren't North, who tell all and sunder they're going to beg for PPs target specific players, etc.
 
Tugga27 said:
Even calling Simmo an "ageing coach".
What an absolute cnut he's turned in to.


Why the AFL’s next big thing needs to avoid football’s graveyard​


Joel Selwood was lucky - or made his luck by how he presented to the AFL recruiting scouts. His draft story is one that should resonate for this year’s player lottery in November.
Selwood filed his nomination form for the AFL national draft in 2006 with no certainty on where he would be called to start his career. Most of the 18 clubs had their own uncertainty about the teenager who carried a knee injury into his draft year.
Geelong - with master recruiter Stephen Wells clearly impressed by Selwood’s off-field character – took a punt with pick No.7. And Selwood won football’s version of Lotto.
Selwood walked into a team primed to become a powerhouse. He played 21 AFL games in his first season, winning 19 – including the 2007 grand final.

In his first three seasons, Selwood’s win-loss record was 66-6, including three grand final appearances and two premierships. He closed his Hall of Fame-destined career holding the 2022 AFL premiership trophy as Geelong captain. He played a record 40 finals, won four premierships and an astonishing 73 per cent of his matches at Geelong.

The No.1 draftee of that 2006 lottery was not so lucky.
Bryce Gibbs went to Carlton after Adelaide failed to claim him as a father-son pick. He did get to the Crows in the end, but that move did not have a pay-off to match Selwood’s luck.

While Selwood took preliminary finals as a yearly treat, Gibbs waited six seasons to experience and reach the same number of wins Selwood savoured in just three years. In that time, Gibbs won just one final - the elimination final against Essendon in 2011.


In Gibbs’ 14 seasons at two clubs, he played only five finals.
Soon, hundreds of teenagers will file their draft forms with a dream – and the hope of avoiding a nightmare such as West Coast.
Where you are drafted matters, and for the upcoming 2023 draftees, the last club you want to be selected by is West Coast.

The bottom-placed Eagles are an embarrassment to the game. One win this season, a percentage of 51, and just four wins in the past 38 games.
The reward for this appalling state at West Coast most certainly will be the No.1 draft pick.

Once an admired and powerful club, the state of decay in the Eagles was reflected in how the quickly ageing premiership coach Adam Simpson spelled out West Coast’s rebuild in his comments last Saturday after another humiliating defeat, this time by 122 points to Adelaide.
It has taken Simpson three seasons to finally admit his list needs an overhaul. The dreaded rebuild is on. The No.1 draftee would be going to a club where things will get significantly worse before they get better.

When pressed on the Eagles’ list management strategy, Simpson declared: “We are going to transition the list pretty quickly; it’s going to be one of the youngest lists in a year or so in the competition. We want to get some picks at the top end if we can so we’ll work through all of that, and that’s pretty clear from my point of view and the club’s point of view, and we’re right in the middle of it.”

Simpson will be lucky to see out the year, let alone a five-year rebuild. No coach in the game’s history has survived a record such as his.
The Eagles have their now-open eyes on one young player they would hope is the first brick in the overdue rebuild.
Bendigo Pioneers sensation Harley Reid is the pre-draft No.1. He is an explosive, goalkicking midfielder who has drawn comparisons to Richmond champion Dustin Martin.
But Reid’s career would be at risk of stagnating, rather than flourishing, on the big stage should he, as expected, be drafted by the Eagles.

After Jason Horne-Francis’ exit from North Melbourne just a year after being announced at No.1, Reid should make it very clear to the Eagles that he could do the same. He would only need to tell West Coast of his intent to return home to a Victorian club after his mandatory two-year contract expires, if not sooner.
If Reid and his management group are savvy and strategic, they can engineer the Eagles into trading the No.1 pick to Melbourne, which is prepared to offer multiple first-round selections in return for the first crack at securing Reid.

Reid need only to look at Horne-Francis. His brave call to leave North Melbourne after just one season created a fierce backlash and ridicule, but he has had the last laugh.
Horne-Francis has thrived in a stable environment surrounded by his family in his home state of South Australia, and with stoic support from coach Ken Hinkley. There is no sign of the questionable body language and visible frustration that was obvious in his first season at North Melbourne.

Reid would not be the first athlete in world sports to refuse to play at a specific club.
In the 2004 NFL draft, NFL quarterback Eli Manning was expected to be the top pick. The San Diego Chargers held the first pick, but Manning’s camp made it known that he did not want to play for the Chargers and preferred to be at the New York Giants.

The Chargers still selected Manning, who followed through with his refusal to play for San Diego. The Chargers traded Manning to the Giants in exchange for another quarterback, No.4 pick Philip Rivers.
Manning’s ploy paid off. He won two Super Bowl rings at New York, as well as Super Bowl MVP honours in both finales.

No one would blame Reid for taking his destiny into his own hands by avoiding being stuck 1691 kilometres from home - and a million miles from success in the football graveyard that is currently the Eagles.
Not everyone can be as lucky as Joel Selwood. But Reid should at least try.
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Rowan18 said:
Barrett is a tool but he inadvertently raises a good point around consistency. The AFL should either do away with priority picks or be more consistent on granting them. I know tanking was an issue in the past, but they can avoid that by making it linked to multiple years of under performance. No club is going to deliberately suck for 2-3 seasons, and if they're in their third season of being s**t, I don't see how it hurts the competition at all if they deliberately win only 2 games instead of 4.
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They did. It used to be end of first round for < 4 wins year one, prior to first round for 2 consecutive years of < 4 wins. The really good PPs were for multiple years of sucking.
 
Tugga27 said:
What an absolute cnut he's turned in to.
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Turned into:

Nope he has always been a cnut.
It's in his DND he comes from a family of cnuts.

Father Graham was one of the first SA shock jocks on air with KG Cunningham and brother Chad was a tosser who was not liked by many of his team mates.

Graham has passed some of his flawed character traits on to his two boys - Chad & Kane

All three are arrogant.
Self opinionated.
Shit stirrers.
Deliberately court controversy.
Dead set flogs.
Disharmony and angst follow them on the trail of life.

When you constantly throw hand grenades out of your bunker to all that pass by you on their travels, it doesn't take long for people to realise what a cnut you are.

They are the sort of people who you wouldn't bother pissing on if they were on fire.

Kane was a narky antagonistic run with tagger, that sledged, elbowed and played dirty ........and yet was a dobber and whinger when he was on the end of similar treatment.

All the Cornes cnts share a similar quirk of character, none can take a dose of their own medicine, when on the receiving end of a well placed targeted taunt directed at them.

All quick by mouth to insult or sledge someone else and even quicker to get all offended and turn sooky, when the barb is directed at them. :violin::cry::violin::cry::violin:
 
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Josh Hill with the wise words.

He was always my 2nd favourite Josh.

Josh Smith was a Collingwood reject and Josh Wooden looked like a pigeon.

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Monocle said:
Turned into:

Nope he has always been a cnut.
It's in his DND he comes from a family of cnuts.

Father Graham was one of the first SA shock jocks on air with KG Cunningham and brother Chad was a tosser who was not liked by many of his team mates.

Graham has passed some of his flawed character traits on to his two boys - Chad & Kane

All three are arrogant.
Self opinionated.
s**t stirrers.
Deliberately court controversy.
Dead set flogs.
Disharmony and angst follow them on the trail of life.

When you constantly throw hand grenades out of your bunker to all that pass by you on their travels, it doesn't take long for people to realise what a cnut you are.

They are the sort of people who you wouldn't bother pissing on if they were on fire.

Kane was a narky antagonistic run with tagger, that sledged, elbowed and played dirty ........and yet was a dobber and whinger when he was on the end of similar treatment.

All the Cornes cnts share a similar quirk of character, none can take a dose of their own medicine, when on the receiving end of a well placed targeted taunt directed at them.

All quick by mouth to insult or sledge someone else and even quicker to get all offended and turn sooky, when the barb is directed at them. :violin::cry::violin::cry::violin:
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Now thats how you do a drive bye

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Monocle said:
Turned into:

Nope he has always been a cnut.
It's in his DND he comes from a family of cnuts.

Father Graham was one of the first SA shock jocks on air with KG Cunningham and brother Chad was a tosser who was not liked by many of his team mates.

Graham has passed some of his flawed character traits on to his two boys - Chad & Kane

All three are arrogant.
Self opinionated.
s**t stirrers.
Deliberately court controversy.
Dead set flogs.
Disharmony and angst follow them on the trail of life.

When you constantly throw hand grenades out of your bunker to all that pass by you on their travels, it doesn't take long for people to realise what a cnut you are.

They are the sort of people who you wouldn't bother pissing on if they were on fire.

Kane was a narky antagonistic run with tagger, that sledged, elbowed and played dirty ........and yet was a dobber and whinger when he was on the end of similar treatment.

All the Cornes cnts share a similar quirk of character, none can take a dose of their own medicine, when on the receiving end of a well placed targeted taunt directed at them.

All quick by mouth to insult or sledge someone else and even quicker to get all offended and turn sooky, when the barb is directed at them. :violin::cry::violin::cry::violin:
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Don't hold back fella.
Tell us what you really think.
 
Tugga27 said:
Even calling Simmo an "ageing coach".
What an absolute cnut he's turned in to.


Why the AFL’s next big thing needs to avoid football’s graveyard​


Joel Selwood was lucky - or made his luck by how he presented to the AFL recruiting scouts. His draft story is one that should resonate for this year’s player lottery in November.
Selwood filed his nomination form for the AFL national draft in 2006 with no certainty on where he would be called to start his career. Most of the 18 clubs had their own uncertainty about the teenager who carried a knee injury into his draft year.
Geelong - with master recruiter Stephen Wells clearly impressed by Selwood’s off-field character – took a punt with pick No.7. And Selwood won football’s version of Lotto.
Selwood walked into a team primed to become a powerhouse. He played 21 AFL games in his first season, winning 19 – including the 2007 grand final.

In his first three seasons, Selwood’s win-loss record was 66-6, including three grand final appearances and two premierships. He closed his Hall of Fame-destined career holding the 2022 AFL premiership trophy as Geelong captain. He played a record 40 finals, won four premierships and an astonishing 73 per cent of his matches at Geelong.

The No.1 draftee of that 2006 lottery was not so lucky.
Bryce Gibbs went to Carlton after Adelaide failed to claim him as a father-son pick. He did get to the Crows in the end, but that move did not have a pay-off to match Selwood’s luck.

While Selwood took preliminary finals as a yearly treat, Gibbs waited six seasons to experience and reach the same number of wins Selwood savoured in just three years. In that time, Gibbs won just one final - the elimination final against Essendon in 2011.


In Gibbs’ 14 seasons at two clubs, he played only five finals.
Soon, hundreds of teenagers will file their draft forms with a dream – and the hope of avoiding a nightmare such as West Coast.
Where you are drafted matters, and for the upcoming 2023 draftees, the last club you want to be selected by is West Coast.

The bottom-placed Eagles are an embarrassment to the game. One win this season, a percentage of 51, and just four wins in the past 38 games.
The reward for this appalling state at West Coast most certainly will be the No.1 draft pick.

Once an admired and powerful club, the state of decay in the Eagles was reflected in how the quickly ageing premiership coach Adam Simpson spelled out West Coast’s rebuild in his comments last Saturday after another humiliating defeat, this time by 122 points to Adelaide.
It has taken Simpson three seasons to finally admit his list needs an overhaul. The dreaded rebuild is on. The No.1 draftee would be going to a club where things will get significantly worse before they get better.

When pressed on the Eagles’ list management strategy, Simpson declared: “We are going to transition the list pretty quickly; it’s going to be one of the youngest lists in a year or so in the competition. We want to get some picks at the top end if we can so we’ll work through all of that, and that’s pretty clear from my point of view and the club’s point of view, and we’re right in the middle of it.”

Simpson will be lucky to see out the year, let alone a five-year rebuild. No coach in the game’s history has survived a record such as his.
The Eagles have their now-open eyes on one young player they would hope is the first brick in the overdue rebuild.
Bendigo Pioneers sensation Harley Reid is the pre-draft No.1. He is an explosive, goalkicking midfielder who has drawn comparisons to Richmond champion Dustin Martin.
But Reid’s career would be at risk of stagnating, rather than flourishing, on the big stage should he, as expected, be drafted by the Eagles.

After Jason Horne-Francis’ exit from North Melbourne just a year after being announced at No.1, Reid should make it very clear to the Eagles that he could do the same. He would only need to tell West Coast of his intent to return home to a Victorian club after his mandatory two-year contract expires, if not sooner.
If Reid and his management group are savvy and strategic, they can engineer the Eagles into trading the No.1 pick to Melbourne, which is prepared to offer multiple first-round selections in return for the first crack at securing Reid.

Reid need only to look at Horne-Francis. His brave call to leave North Melbourne after just one season created a fierce backlash and ridicule, but he has had the last laugh.
Horne-Francis has thrived in a stable environment surrounded by his family in his home state of South Australia, and with stoic support from coach Ken Hinkley. There is no sign of the questionable body language and visible frustration that was obvious in his first season at North Melbourne.

Reid would not be the first athlete in world sports to refuse to play at a specific club.
In the 2004 NFL draft, NFL quarterback Eli Manning was expected to be the top pick. The San Diego Chargers held the first pick, but Manning’s camp made it known that he did not want to play for the Chargers and preferred to be at the New York Giants.

The Chargers still selected Manning, who followed through with his refusal to play for San Diego. The Chargers traded Manning to the Giants in exchange for another quarterback, No.4 pick Philip Rivers.
Manning’s ploy paid off. He won two Super Bowl rings at New York, as well as Super Bowl MVP honours in both finales.

No one would blame Reid for taking his destiny into his own hands by avoiding being stuck 1691 kilometres from home - and a million miles from success in the football graveyard that is currently the Eagles.
Not everyone can be as lucky as Joel Selwood. But Reid should at least try.
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The wooden spoon team aka worst team in the league has always been gifted pick #1.
But it's only now that the Eagles are due to receive it is it such a bad thing that there are calls for draftees to start draft tempering?

They fear us. Simple as that.
We've always had success and the thought of us loading up on early draft picks scares them.
 
Tugga27 said:
Even calling Simmo an "ageing coach".
What an absolute cnut he's turned in to.


Why the AFL’s next big thing needs to avoid football’s graveyard​


Joel Selwood was lucky - or made his luck by how he presented to the AFL recruiting scouts. His draft story is one that should resonate for this year’s player lottery in November.
Selwood filed his nomination form for the AFL national draft in 2006 with no certainty on where he would be called to start his career. Most of the 18 clubs had their own uncertainty about the teenager who carried a knee injury into his draft year.
Geelong - with master recruiter Stephen Wells clearly impressed by Selwood’s off-field character – took a punt with pick No.7. And Selwood won football’s version of Lotto.
Selwood walked into a team primed to become a powerhouse. He played 21 AFL games in his first season, winning 19 – including the 2007 grand final.

In his first three seasons, Selwood’s win-loss record was 66-6, including three grand final appearances and two premierships. He closed his Hall of Fame-destined career holding the 2022 AFL premiership trophy as Geelong captain. He played a record 40 finals, won four premierships and an astonishing 73 per cent of his matches at Geelong.

The No.1 draftee of that 2006 lottery was not so lucky.
Bryce Gibbs went to Carlton after Adelaide failed to claim him as a father-son pick. He did get to the Crows in the end, but that move did not have a pay-off to match Selwood’s luck.

While Selwood took preliminary finals as a yearly treat, Gibbs waited six seasons to experience and reach the same number of wins Selwood savoured in just three years. In that time, Gibbs won just one final - the elimination final against Essendon in 2011.


In Gibbs’ 14 seasons at two clubs, he played only five finals.
Soon, hundreds of teenagers will file their draft forms with a dream – and the hope of avoiding a nightmare such as West Coast.
Where you are drafted matters, and for the upcoming 2023 draftees, the last club you want to be selected by is West Coast.

The bottom-placed Eagles are an embarrassment to the game. One win this season, a percentage of 51, and just four wins in the past 38 games.
The reward for this appalling state at West Coast most certainly will be the No.1 draft pick.

Once an admired and powerful club, the state of decay in the Eagles was reflected in how the quickly ageing premiership coach Adam Simpson spelled out West Coast’s rebuild in his comments last Saturday after another humiliating defeat, this time by 122 points to Adelaide.
It has taken Simpson three seasons to finally admit his list needs an overhaul. The dreaded rebuild is on. The No.1 draftee would be going to a club where things will get significantly worse before they get better.

When pressed on the Eagles’ list management strategy, Simpson declared: “We are going to transition the list pretty quickly; it’s going to be one of the youngest lists in a year or so in the competition. We want to get some picks at the top end if we can so we’ll work through all of that, and that’s pretty clear from my point of view and the club’s point of view, and we’re right in the middle of it.”

Simpson will be lucky to see out the year, let alone a five-year rebuild. No coach in the game’s history has survived a record such as his.
The Eagles have their now-open eyes on one young player they would hope is the first brick in the overdue rebuild.
Bendigo Pioneers sensation Harley Reid is the pre-draft No.1. He is an explosive, goalkicking midfielder who has drawn comparisons to Richmond champion Dustin Martin.
But Reid’s career would be at risk of stagnating, rather than flourishing, on the big stage should he, as expected, be drafted by the Eagles.

After Jason Horne-Francis’ exit from North Melbourne just a year after being announced at No.1, Reid should make it very clear to the Eagles that he could do the same. He would only need to tell West Coast of his intent to return home to a Victorian club after his mandatory two-year contract expires, if not sooner.
If Reid and his management group are savvy and strategic, they can engineer the Eagles into trading the No.1 pick to Melbourne, which is prepared to offer multiple first-round selections in return for the first crack at securing Reid.

Reid need only to look at Horne-Francis. His brave call to leave North Melbourne after just one season created a fierce backlash and ridicule, but he has had the last laugh.
Horne-Francis has thrived in a stable environment surrounded by his family in his home state of South Australia, and with stoic support from coach Ken Hinkley. There is no sign of the questionable body language and visible frustration that was obvious in his first season at North Melbourne.

Reid would not be the first athlete in world sports to refuse to play at a specific club.
In the 2004 NFL draft, NFL quarterback Eli Manning was expected to be the top pick. The San Diego Chargers held the first pick, but Manning’s camp made it known that he did not want to play for the Chargers and preferred to be at the New York Giants.

The Chargers still selected Manning, who followed through with his refusal to play for San Diego. The Chargers traded Manning to the Giants in exchange for another quarterback, No.4 pick Philip Rivers.
Manning’s ploy paid off. He won two Super Bowl rings at New York, as well as Super Bowl MVP honours in both finales.

No one would blame Reid for taking his destiny into his own hands by avoiding being stuck 1691 kilometres from home - and a million miles from success in the football graveyard that is currently the Eagles.
Not everyone can be as lucky as Joel Selwood. But Reid should at least try.h
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Altum Volantes said:
Josh Hill with the wise words.

He was always my 2nd favourite Josh.

Josh Smith was a Collingwood reject and Josh Wooden looked like a pigeon.

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He most certainly did not

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Our disdain of the media was even at it finest in the late nineties

 
joeyavalanche said:
I’m fine with changing the rule too… but do it after we get a PP!

They aren’t going to ever change the FS and Academy rules so why not accept the one leg up we might actually get


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Why not? They've changed the rules multiple times before.

And I also ask, What leg up are we actually getting? We are very generously allowed to match bids after pick 40. Wow-wee! Happy days are here again! I feel like it's it's my birthday and I'm getting all the presents!

Seriously? Match a bid in the 3rd round?

Any identified, possible talent isn't going to make it to the match bid stage as it currently stands for clubs like us.
 
daddy_4_eyes said:
The wooden spoon team aka worst team in the league has always been gifted pick #1.
But it's only now that the Eagles are due to receive it is it such a bad thing that there are calls for draftees to start draft tempering?

They fear us. Simple as that.
We've always had success and the thought of us loading up on early draft picks scares them.
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It is also beneficial for them to create an "Us versus them" attitude between Vic's and WA as it sells their garbage
Barrett is doing it also, makes them sort of relevant.
 
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