News Media Thread, 2023: Insightful, Inciteful and Incomptent

[ROO DOGG]

Even calling Simmo an "ageing coach".
What an absolute cnut he's turned in to.

Why the AFL’s next big thing needs to avoid football’s graveyard​

Joel Selwood was lucky - or made his luck by how he presented to the AFL recruiting scouts. His draft story is one that should resonate for this year’s player lottery in November.
Selwood filed his nomination form for the AFL national draft in 2006 with no certainty on where he would be called to start his career. Most of the 18 clubs had their own uncertainty about the teenager who carried a knee injury into his draft year.
Geelong - with master recruiter Stephen Wells clearly impressed by Selwood’s off-field character – took a punt with pick No.7. And Selwood won football’s version of Lotto.
Selwood walked into a team primed to become a powerhouse. He played 21 AFL games in his first season, winning 19 – including the 2007 grand final.

In his first three seasons, Selwood’s win-loss record was 66-6, including three grand final appearances and two premierships. He closed his Hall of Fame-destined career holding the 2022 AFL premiership trophy as Geelong captain. He played a record 40 finals, won four premierships and an astonishing 73 per cent of his matches at Geelong.

The No.1 draftee of that 2006 lottery was not so lucky.
Bryce Gibbs went to Carlton after Adelaide failed to claim him as a father-son pick. He did get to the Crows in the end, but that move did not have a pay-off to match Selwood’s luck.

While Selwood took preliminary finals as a yearly treat, Gibbs waited six seasons to experience and reach the same number of wins Selwood savoured in just three years. In that time, Gibbs won just one final - the elimination final against Essendon in 2011.


In Gibbs’ 14 seasons at two clubs, he played only five finals.
Soon, hundreds of teenagers will file their draft forms with a dream – and the hope of avoiding a nightmare such as West Coast.
Where you are drafted matters, and for the upcoming 2023 draftees, the last club you want to be selected by is West Coast.

The bottom-placed Eagles are an embarrassment to the game. One win this season, a percentage of 51, and just four wins in the past 38 games.
The reward for this appalling state at West Coast most certainly will be the No.1 draft pick.

Once an admired and powerful club, the state of decay in the Eagles was reflected in how the quickly ageing premiership coach Adam Simpson spelled out West Coast’s rebuild in his comments last Saturday after another humiliating defeat, this time by 122 points to Adelaide.
It has taken Simpson three seasons to finally admit his list needs an overhaul. The dreaded rebuild is on. The No.1 draftee would be going to a club where things will get significantly worse before they get better.

When pressed on the Eagles’ list management strategy, Simpson declared: “We are going to transition the list pretty quickly; it’s going to be one of the youngest lists in a year or so in the competition. We want to get some picks at the top end if we can so we’ll work through all of that, and that’s pretty clear from my point of view and the club’s point of view, and we’re right in the middle of it.”

Simpson will be lucky to see out the year, let alone a five-year rebuild. No coach in the game’s history has survived a record such as his.
The Eagles have their now-open eyes on one young player they would hope is the first brick in the overdue rebuild.
Bendigo Pioneers sensation Harley Reid is the pre-draft No.1. He is an explosive, goalkicking midfielder who has drawn comparisons to Richmond champion Dustin Martin.
But Reid’s career would be at risk of stagnating, rather than flourishing, on the big stage should he, as expected, be drafted by the Eagles.

After Jason Horne-Francis’ exit from North Melbourne just a year after being announced at No.1, Reid should make it very clear to the Eagles that he could do the same. He would only need to tell West Coast of his intent to return home to a Victorian club after his mandatory two-year contract expires, if not sooner.
If Reid and his management group are savvy and strategic, they can engineer the Eagles into trading the No.1 pick to Melbourne, which is prepared to offer multiple first-round selections in return for the first crack at securing Reid.

Reid need only to look at Horne-Francis. His brave call to leave North Melbourne after just one season created a fierce backlash and ridicule, but he has had the last laugh.
Horne-Francis has thrived in a stable environment surrounded by his family in his home state of South Australia, and with stoic support from coach Ken Hinkley. There is no sign of the questionable body language and visible frustration that was obvious in his first season at North Melbourne.

Reid would not be the first athlete in world sports to refuse to play at a specific club.
In the 2004 NFL draft, NFL quarterback Eli Manning was expected to be the top pick. The San Diego Chargers held the first pick, but Manning’s camp made it known that he did not want to play for the Chargers and preferred to be at the New York Giants.

The Chargers still selected Manning, who followed through with his refusal to play for San Diego. The Chargers traded Manning to the Giants in exchange for another quarterback, No.4 pick Philip Rivers.
Manning’s ploy paid off. He won two Super Bowl rings at New York, as well as Super Bowl MVP honours in both finales.

No one would blame Reid for taking his destiny into his own hands by avoiding being stuck 1691 kilometres from home - and a million miles from success in the football graveyard that is currently the Eagles.
Not everyone can be as lucky as Joel Selwood. But Reid should at least try.

What the fek is the AFL becoming? This s#@t is going too far.

 

[Keys]

Even calling Simmo an "ageing coach".
What an absolute cnut he's turned in to.

Why the AFL’s next big thing needs to avoid football’s graveyard​

Joel Selwood was lucky - or made his luck by how he presented to the AFL recruiting scouts. His draft story is one that should resonate for this year’s player lottery in November.
Selwood filed his nomination form for the AFL national draft in 2006 with no certainty on where he would be called to start his career. Most of the 18 clubs had their own uncertainty about the teenager who carried a knee injury into his draft year.
Geelong - with master recruiter Stephen Wells clearly impressed by Selwood’s off-field character – took a punt with pick No.7. And Selwood won football’s version of Lotto.
Selwood walked into a team primed to become a powerhouse. He played 21 AFL games in his first season, winning 19 – including the 2007 grand final.

In his first three seasons, Selwood’s win-loss record was 66-6, including three grand final appearances and two premierships. He closed his Hall of Fame-destined career holding the 2022 AFL premiership trophy as Geelong captain. He played a record 40 finals, won four premierships and an astonishing 73 per cent of his matches at Geelong.

The No.1 draftee of that 2006 lottery was not so lucky.
Bryce Gibbs went to Carlton after Adelaide failed to claim him as a father-son pick. He did get to the Crows in the end, but that move did not have a pay-off to match Selwood’s luck.

While Selwood took preliminary finals as a yearly treat, Gibbs waited six seasons to experience and reach the same number of wins Selwood savoured in just three years. In that time, Gibbs won just one final - the elimination final against Essendon in 2011.


In Gibbs’ 14 seasons at two clubs, he played only five finals.
Soon, hundreds of teenagers will file their draft forms with a dream – and the hope of avoiding a nightmare such as West Coast.
Where you are drafted matters, and for the upcoming 2023 draftees, the last club you want to be selected by is West Coast.

The bottom-placed Eagles are an embarrassment to the game. One win this season, a percentage of 51, and just four wins in the past 38 games.
The reward for this appalling state at West Coast most certainly will be the No.1 draft pick.

Once an admired and powerful club, the state of decay in the Eagles was reflected in how the quickly ageing premiership coach Adam Simpson spelled out West Coast’s rebuild in his comments last Saturday after another humiliating defeat, this time by 122 points to Adelaide.
It has taken Simpson three seasons to finally admit his list needs an overhaul. The dreaded rebuild is on. The No.1 draftee would be going to a club where things will get significantly worse before they get better.

When pressed on the Eagles’ list management strategy, Simpson declared: “We are going to transition the list pretty quickly; it’s going to be one of the youngest lists in a year or so in the competition. We want to get some picks at the top end if we can so we’ll work through all of that, and that’s pretty clear from my point of view and the club’s point of view, and we’re right in the middle of it.”

Simpson will be lucky to see out the year, let alone a five-year rebuild. No coach in the game’s history has survived a record such as his.
The Eagles have their now-open eyes on one young player they would hope is the first brick in the overdue rebuild.
Bendigo Pioneers sensation Harley Reid is the pre-draft No.1. He is an explosive, goalkicking midfielder who has drawn comparisons to Richmond champion Dustin Martin.
But Reid’s career would be at risk of stagnating, rather than flourishing, on the big stage should he, as expected, be drafted by the Eagles.

After Jason Horne-Francis’ exit from North Melbourne just a year after being announced at No.1, Reid should make it very clear to the Eagles that he could do the same. He would only need to tell West Coast of his intent to return home to a Victorian club after his mandatory two-year contract expires, if not sooner.
If Reid and his management group are savvy and strategic, they can engineer the Eagles into trading the No.1 pick to Melbourne, which is prepared to offer multiple first-round selections in return for the first crack at securing Reid.

Reid need only to look at Horne-Francis. His brave call to leave North Melbourne after just one season created a fierce backlash and ridicule, but he has had the last laugh.
Horne-Francis has thrived in a stable environment surrounded by his family in his home state of South Australia, and with stoic support from coach Ken Hinkley. There is no sign of the questionable body language and visible frustration that was obvious in his first season at North Melbourne.

Reid would not be the first athlete in world sports to refuse to play at a specific club.
In the 2004 NFL draft, NFL quarterback Eli Manning was expected to be the top pick. The San Diego Chargers held the first pick, but Manning’s camp made it known that he did not want to play for the Chargers and preferred to be at the New York Giants.

The Chargers still selected Manning, who followed through with his refusal to play for San Diego. The Chargers traded Manning to the Giants in exchange for another quarterback, No.4 pick Philip Rivers.
Manning’s ploy paid off. He won two Super Bowl rings at New York, as well as Super Bowl MVP honours in both finales.

No one would blame Reid for taking his destiny into his own hands by avoiding being stuck 1691 kilometres from home - and a million miles from success in the football graveyard that is currently the Eagles.
Not everyone can be as lucky as Joel Selwood. But Reid should at least try.

There was only 16 clubs in 2006 Kane not 18

Perfect example of your stupidity you piece of excrement

 

[The Dodger]

The time to go after Gaff was a couple of years ago when he wasn't up to it and he wasn't getting dropped.

The cowards said nothing then and now it just feels cruel.

He's clearly not up to it but he's playing because he's a fit (ish) body. And he's playing out of position for the team.

There were some people asking questions about what does he bring then. Lines about not being fit and playing injured were being used in defense for him. This year we were told he was injury free and ready to get back to his best that's why I think people are really teeing off.

 

[The Dodger]

I like how Kane uses the "He's been compared to Dustin Martin" line in the story and doesn't go into detail about the type of situation the Tigers were in when they drafted Dusty and the type of career he has ended up having.

 

[ziad]

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Even calling Simmo an "ageing coach".
What an absolute cnut he's turned in to.

Why the AFL’s next big thing needs to avoid football’s graveyard​

Joel Selwood was lucky - or made his luck by how he presented to the AFL recruiting scouts. His draft story is one that should resonate for this year’s player lottery in November.
Selwood filed his nomination form for the AFL national draft in 2006 with no certainty on where he would be called to start his career. Most of the 18 clubs had their own uncertainty about the teenager who carried a knee injury into his draft year.
Geelong - with master recruiter Stephen Wells clearly impressed by Selwood’s off-field character – took a punt with pick No.7. And Selwood won football’s version of Lotto.
Selwood walked into a team primed to become a powerhouse. He played 21 AFL games in his first season, winning 19 – including the 2007 grand final.

In his first three seasons, Selwood’s win-loss record was 66-6, including three grand final appearances and two premierships. He closed his Hall of Fame-destined career holding the 2022 AFL premiership trophy as Geelong captain. He played a record 40 finals, won four premierships and an astonishing 73 per cent of his matches at Geelong.

The No.1 draftee of that 2006 lottery was not so lucky.
Bryce Gibbs went to Carlton after Adelaide failed to claim him as a father-son pick. He did get to the Crows in the end, but that move did not have a pay-off to match Selwood’s luck.

While Selwood took preliminary finals as a yearly treat, Gibbs waited six seasons to experience and reach the same number of wins Selwood savoured in just three years. In that time, Gibbs won just one final - the elimination final against Essendon in 2011.


In Gibbs’ 14 seasons at two clubs, he played only five finals.
Soon, hundreds of teenagers will file their draft forms with a dream – and the hope of avoiding a nightmare such as West Coast.
Where you are drafted matters, and for the upcoming 2023 draftees, the last club you want to be selected by is West Coast.

The bottom-placed Eagles are an embarrassment to the game. One win this season, a percentage of 51, and just four wins in the past 38 games.
The reward for this appalling state at West Coast most certainly will be the No.1 draft pick.

Once an admired and powerful club, the state of decay in the Eagles was reflected in how the quickly ageing premiership coach Adam Simpson spelled out West Coast’s rebuild in his comments last Saturday after another humiliating defeat, this time by 122 points to Adelaide.
It has taken Simpson three seasons to finally admit his list needs an overhaul. The dreaded rebuild is on. The No.1 draftee would be going to a club where things will get significantly worse before they get better.

When pressed on the Eagles’ list management strategy, Simpson declared: “We are going to transition the list pretty quickly; it’s going to be one of the youngest lists in a year or so in the competition. We want to get some picks at the top end if we can so we’ll work through all of that, and that’s pretty clear from my point of view and the club’s point of view, and we’re right in the middle of it.”

Simpson will be lucky to see out the year, let alone a five-year rebuild. No coach in the game’s history has survived a record such as his.
The Eagles have their now-open eyes on one young player they would hope is the first brick in the overdue rebuild.
Bendigo Pioneers sensation Harley Reid is the pre-draft No.1. He is an explosive, goalkicking midfielder who has drawn comparisons to Richmond champion Dustin Martin.
But Reid’s career would be at risk of stagnating, rather than flourishing, on the big stage should he, as expected, be drafted by the Eagles.

After Jason Horne-Francis’ exit from North Melbourne just a year after being announced at No.1, Reid should make it very clear to the Eagles that he could do the same. He would only need to tell West Coast of his intent to return home to a Victorian club after his mandatory two-year contract expires, if not sooner.
If Reid and his management group are savvy and strategic, they can engineer the Eagles into trading the No.1 pick to Melbourne, which is prepared to offer multiple first-round selections in return for the first crack at securing Reid.

Reid need only to look at Horne-Francis. His brave call to leave North Melbourne after just one season created a fierce backlash and ridicule, but he has had the last laugh.
Horne-Francis has thrived in a stable environment surrounded by his family in his home state of South Australia, and with stoic support from coach Ken Hinkley. There is no sign of the questionable body language and visible frustration that was obvious in his first season at North Melbourne.

Reid would not be the first athlete in world sports to refuse to play at a specific club.
In the 2004 NFL draft, NFL quarterback Eli Manning was expected to be the top pick. The San Diego Chargers held the first pick, but Manning’s camp made it known that he did not want to play for the Chargers and preferred to be at the New York Giants.

The Chargers still selected Manning, who followed through with his refusal to play for San Diego. The Chargers traded Manning to the Giants in exchange for another quarterback, No.4 pick Philip Rivers.
Manning’s ploy paid off. He won two Super Bowl rings at New York, as well as Super Bowl MVP honours in both finales.

No one would blame Reid for taking his destiny into his own hands by avoiding being stuck 1691 kilometres from home - and a million miles from success in the football graveyard that is currently the Eagles.
Not everyone can be as lucky as Joel Selwood. But Reid should at least try.

Completely agree with Kane here, Reid would be far better off nominating Carlton so he can go to a club that’s been rebuilding for 30 years with zero success and now have the reigning Brownlow medallist, two coleman medallist’s in their prime, a number 1 pick elite KPD and number 1 pick elite midfielder along with a raft of high paid free agents yet continue to be completely irrelevant.

A+ rage baiting Kane you ****ing Bellend.

 

[kempy]

So presumably we will go down the list until we get a draftee to consent to coming here. Should be around pick 50.

I can’t believe that Cornes has written this even if it is just click bait. He is really saying that any draftee should tell any club that they don’t want to go there. Surety he AFL have to rebut this.


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[amazingjoshy]

There were some people asking questions about what does he bring then. Lines about not being fit and playing injured were being used in defense for him. This year we were told he was injury free and ready to get back to his best that's why I think people are really teeing off.

The real smart ones were the ones questioning whether we needed to bother keeping him when North came for him and we'd just won a flag without him in the team

 

[amazingjoshy]

That Cornes article reads genuinely reads like a pisstake. Going for ultimate reaction from one of the leagues biggest supporter bases

Doesn't the number 1 pick go to a basket case every year?

 

[Tugga27]

That Cornes article reads genuinely reads like a pisstake. Going for ultimate reaction from one of the leagues biggest supporter bases

Doesn't the number 1 pick go to a basket case every year?

Yep

We're crap and an embarrassment but don't let us have the best kid so we can improve.
He's a fallopian tube.

 

[DanWCE]

That Cornes article reads genuinely reads like a pisstake. Going for ultimate reaction from one of the leagues biggest supporter bases

Doesn't the number 1 pick go to a basket case every year?

The problem is he's opening the door for the request to leave by even talking about it. This is never part of the media landscape when others bottom out. Footy gods forbid we ever get access to the first pick in the draft.

 

[DanWCE]

It's also ****ing stupid that he laments how terrible we are and yet the fastest way to resolve that is get in the best talent possible, who he is actively encouraging to avoid or leave us ASAP.

 

[UseR2006]

Yep

We're crap and an embarrassment but don't let us have the best kid so we can improve.
He's a fallopian tube.

Hey now.. Fallopian tubes have a use.
Kane though...

 

[Spange]

AFL needs to heed his insight and award the number 1 pick to the reigning premiers.

 

[wirra44]

**** that articles brutal some serious hatred there

 

[Tugga27]

AFL needs to heed his insight and award the number 1 pick to the reigning premiers.

Let him go to North, because they're so much better run.

 

[MrKK]

There was only 16 clubs in 2006 Kane not 18

Perfect example of your stupidity you piece of excrement

Same with this:

Bryce Gibbs went to Carlton after Adelaide failed to claim him as a father-son pick.

Should read "due to ridiculous VFL-centric father-son rules the Crows were unable to nominate Gibbs".

 

[Mop]

More Kornes wisdom, ladies and gents. A snippet from Mitch Woodcock’s article from The West

Kane Cornes says teenage sensation Harley Reid needs to avoid AFL ‘graveyard’ that is West Coast Eagles​

Thu, 15 June 2023 3:57PM

Harley Reid is set to be the first name read out in this year’s AFL draft. Credit: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
West Coast have been labelled “an embarrassment to the game” in yet another scathing attack and have been warned players, including prospective top pick Harley Reid, simply won’t want to play there.

Controversial AFL analyst Kane Cornes unloaded on the 18th-placed Eagles and implored Reid and his management to do their best to get West Coast to trade the prized top pick to Melbourne.

In his weekly column for The Age, Cornes wrote that if Reid landed at the Eagles his career would be “at risk of stagnating, rather than flourishing”.

 

[DanWCE]

More Kornes wisdom, ladies and gents. A snippet from Mitch Woodcock’s article from The West

I think you mean recycled "wisdom". More self fulfilling media regurgitation

 

[bUCKET__]

Mitch, we have AI now that can summarise someone else's trashy writing and pretend it's a story. You gotta diversify! Your career is on the line!

 

[Truckosaurus]

Look out for articles by Mitch Artificialcock in the near future

 

[THE A5]

Look out for articles by Mitch Artificialcock in the near future

So Mitch Dildo?

 

[KERRPOW]

Mitch rubbafist

 

[Astro7]

I think Corny Cane needs to be rubbed out...with extreme prejudice!

 

[Truckosaurus]

So Mitch Dildo?