Racing Melbourne Cup 2017

[HeathySure]

Surprised too see Red Cardinal not nominated for the Herbet Power this weekend, though Wohler would go down Protectionest route
Was it quarantine timing issues?

no its just they thought he didnt need the run

 

[rideclutch]

Not sure what anyone really expected with Almandin yesterday. There was nothing to achieve.

Well that's what we all thought start prior, when he ran him with 61kg and against 5 stablemates looking to get their ratings up.

Too good for me.

 

[iluvparis]

Wall Of Fire antepost backers take another blow with Tommy Berry booked for the ride at Flemington

 

[LukeParkerno1]

What's wrong with Tom Berry? I've never had much of an issue with him.

 

[TBellicious]

What's wrong with Tom Berry? I've never had much of an issue with him.

Paris must have lost money on one of his horses

 

[iluvparis]

What's wrong with Tom Berry? I've never had much of an issue with him.

In the The Everest I wouldn't mind - in a 24 horse race around 3200m Flemington you can have him all day.

See Tres Blue ride in 2013 as an example

 

[FallingLiefs]

Hartnell sydney cup, just cannot ride time.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

In the The Everest I wouldn't mind - in a 24 horse race around 3200m Flemington you can have him all day.

See Tres Blue ride in 2013 as an example

Every jockey has probably had a bad ride or two though Paris even Bowman

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Paris must have lost money on one of his horses

Possibly. I don't look at jockeys that much as a reason to back or not back a horse though

 

[iluvparis]

Possibly. I don't look at jockeys that much as a reason to back or not back a horse though

Agree - but it's definitely not a positive.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Agree - but it's definitely not a positive.

It's not a negative for me though.

The only one I so look for is McEvoy a bit

 

[bigpapagman]

Every jockey has probably had a bad ride or two though Paris even Bowman

Cox Plate Day 2016 when Bowman rode that Lady Le Fay hotpot on the rails in the slop in that Group 3 mares race. I vomited for approx 2.5 hours until he redeemed himself.

EDIT: In b4 not sure if shit ride or used as penetrometer.

 

[TBellicious]

Cox Plate Day 2016 when Bowman rode that Lady Le Fay hotpot on the rails in the slop in that Group 3 mares race. I vomited for approx 2.5 hours until he redeemed himself.

EDIT: In b4 not sure if shit ride or used as penetrometer.

Definitely used as a penetrometer

 

[iluvparis]

I thought same but in the end subsequent form showed she wasn't going that good anyway.

 

[bigpapagman]

I thought same but in the end subsequent form showed she wasn't going that good anyway.

A length off Dixie Blossoms the start before would have been what fuelled the fire here.

 

[Watts4Dinner]

Cox Plate Day 2016 when Bowman rode that Lady Le Fay hotpot on the rails in the slop in that Group 3 mares race. I vomited for approx 2.5 hours until he redeemed himself.

EDIT: In b4 not sure if shit ride or used as penetrometer.

Ugh, that was the best of good things.

 

[bigpapagman]

Joaoaoaoao booked for Thomas Hobson, so you can put a line through this honest hurdler.

 

[Jugada]

Wut?

 

[iluvparis]

Does that mean Wicklow Brave is skipping Flemington?

 

[Mobythepom]

Late to the party this year but the first thing that strikes me about the market is that the top two Almandin and Amelie's Star look poor value. Almandin right up against it now that the handicapper has had his say and Amelie's Star surely a doubtful stayer on pedigree.

 

[plays tall 1]

Late to the party this year but the first thing that strikes me about the market is that the top two Almandin and Amelie's Star look poor value. Almandin right up against it now that the handicapper has had his say and Amelie's Star surely a doubtful stayer on pedigree.

Regarding Amelie’s Star, you’re right, but maybe throwing to the Zabeel side? Certainly still a question though.

I wouldn’t be putting a line through Almandin just yet although the last effort did dampen enthusiasm.

I’m surprised that Admire Deus is still $14. Will eat the 2 miles.

Your thoughts on the Euros this year?

 

[Mobythepom]

Regarding Amelie’s Star, you’re right, but maybe throwing to the Zabeel side? Certainly still a question though.

I wouldn’t be putting a line through Almandin just yet although the last effort did dampen enthusiasm.

I’m surprised that Admire Deus is still $14. Will eat the 2 miles.

Your thoughts on the Euros this year?

Yeah the Zabeel line gives hope doesn't it? Also the Racing Post's Pricewise put the horse up this year. The dosage index of 2.33 does worry me though for stamina. Last year for example the horses with 2.33+ were Almoonqith (6th), Jameka (15th), Secret Number (21st), Curren Mirotic (23rd) and Rose of Virginia (24th). Obvs a very small sample but I would expect similar for most previous years.

Of the Euros I think Rekindling and Marmelo would be my preferred two at this stage, but I possibly prefer Ventura Storm the most of all the runners at the current prices - to be fair nothing is grabbing me this year like it did last year.

 

[Mobythepom]

Thomas Hobson could be a big player but need to see that it makes the 24 before getting involved......

 

[TBellicious]

If I was having a bet tomorrow morning it’d be Bonneval.

But that weight penalty after she wins the Caulfield Cup may change my mind...

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Wall of Fire huge run in Herbert Power. One to watch