Melbourne should of taken Naitanui....*MB Thread*

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Top 10 players in AFL - 2012

1. Jack Watts (Melb)
2. Tom Scully (Melb)
3. Liam Jurrah (Melb)
4. Colin Sylvia (Melb)
5. Cale Morton (Melb)
6. Jack Grimes (Melb)
7. Jamie Bennell (Melb)
8. Colin Garland (Melb)
9. John Butcher (Melb)
10. Cyril Rioli (Haw)
You forgot Sam Blease.
 
Re: Melbourne should of taken Naitanui....

I would be fairly confident that the discussions at the Melbourne Footy Club would have centered around:

"Who is the best player available at this years draft?"

Rather then:

"Who do we take, so that West Coast is disadvantaged?"

And that's what's wrong with this competition!
 

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Re: Melbourne should of taken Naitanui....

Watts would have to be the most publicised two gamer of all time. He's in the news every day, there are articles about him every day.

The world is obsessed with what a champion he will be.

Slag him off while you can, because in two years time he will be one of the best players in the competition.

That's because the Demon's have thrown him into the public eye, instead of downplaying his debut like most clubs would have. I don't think this was a good thing at all, personally. Besides, who cares about publicity on it's own? good publicity comes when players start to rise to the top, which I'm sure will happen in time for both of these players.
 
Re: Melbourne should of taken Naitanui....

That's because the Demon's have thrown him into the public eye, instead of downplaying his debut like most clubs would have. I don't think this was a good thing at all, personally. Besides, who cares about publicity on it's own? good publicity comes when players start to rise to the top, which I'm sure will happen in time for both of these players.

Yeah, I know what you mean Forrest. But it's arguable that the publicity has helped the club. And it doesn't seem to have had much impact on Watts, good or bad.

And yeah, hopefully both players will do well long into the future.
 
Doesnt have the killer instinct.

Naita is a hunter, Watts an outside receiving finisher.

Naita will be a megastar no matter what, Watts will depend on his teammates to have any influence.
 
Top 10 players in AFL - 2012

1. Jack Watts (Melb)
2. Tom Scully (Melb)
3. Liam Jurrah (Melb)
4. Colin Sylvia (Melb)
5. Cale Morton (Melb)
6. Jack Grimes (Melb)
7. Jamie Bennell (Melb)
8. Colin Garland (Melb)
9. John Butcher (Melb)
10. Cyril Rioli (Haw)

Bennell will be back in Bunbury by 2012.
 
Doesnt have the killer instinct.

Naita is a hunter, Watts an outside receiving finisher.

Naita will be a megastar no matter what, Watts will depend on his teammates to have any influence.


Keep telling yourself that mate.


Whats really scary is that we unleashed another kid last week, Liam Jurrah, who is twice as exciting as Naitanui.
 
what did lj do?
dropped a mark and was lucky enough that the ball dropped next to him.
ANYONE could have kicked that goal ,lying on the ground.

Wait a couple years before comparing nat and watts, until then stfu with the stupid remarks
 
Re: Melbourne should of taken Naitanui....

In my opinion he was much less risky than Watts as at the worst he would end up a dominant tap ruckman and centre clearance player.

ok, if we are to take it on face value as it is your opinion the great Chinggis77 - could you brief a little about your background, so we can judge whether your opinion merits the presumptive grandeur you have accorded it?

thanks :)
 

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this might of been said but i cant be bothered reading through but melbourne made the right choice in watts just for the fact if they took naitanui he would of returned to wa in a few yrs and left melbourne with nothing. i believe u should always take someone in the draft from ur state even if it means they might not be quite as good
 
Re: Melbourne should of taken Naitanui....

Melbourne pigeon holed Natanui as solely a ruckman when in reality he could very well be a hell of a forward in the Lance Franklin mould. You saw what he did up forward last week. Thats just a tase of things to come IMO.

I can see him easily bagging 50+ goals while helping Cox out in the ruck in a year or twos time


There's probably one problem with him being a 50+ goal forward. You see, to kick a goal, it's inevitable that you are able to kick the ball. One follows the other. You following this? ok then. So, being that Natanui is kicking illiterate, this may cause an issue. Actually, no, it will be a major issue. He can't kick. It's terrible. I'm not just basing this on last week when he crucified that poor little football. I saw a lot of him last year as well. He is an atrocious kick. He's an athlete matey, not a footballer. There's a difference.

Just a question before i go. It seemed last week that Natanui wanted to handball at every opportunity and only would kick when he absolutely had to. Is this a team rule that he is not allowed to butcher the footy, or is he just scared of embarrassing himself?
 
Re: Melbourne should of taken Naitanui....

How much have you seen him play Chopper?

Ask anyone who has seen him at WAFL level (more than 1 or two U/18 championship matches) and you will know both his football and kicking skills are very much under-rated.

It's just some conspiracy that Victorians who have never seen him play, and that he's a black fijian, that he cannot kick or have any football skills.

Why does Gary Ablett handball more than he kicks? Is it because he cant kick for shit? Or is it because his handballing vision (like Naitanui's) is great, and his handballs are creative and can set up other players?

Did you not see him handball to Priddis with his LEFT HAND a couple of weeks ago? Also not see him kick to LeCras?

His kicking is elite for someone over 200cm. He's also basically a 200cm crumber.

Pessimistic, he won't be as good as Buddy because he isn't physical. He's a little girl.
 
Re: Melbourne should of taken Naitanui....

isn't underrated another way of saying: yes everyone thinks shit?

not sure there is any substantive value is arguing something or someone is underrated as all that proves is the consensus is against you at present
 
Re: Melbourne should of taken Naitanui....

Uhm.. Let me stoop my grammar down that low, and I'll see if I can understand what that means.

Under-rated means under-rated. Meaning, people (mainly insecure Victorians), go "He's tall, athletic and Fijian, he obviously has no football skills whatsoever" which is wrong. His skills are elite for someone over 200cm, which isn't just my opinion.
 
Re: Melbourne should of taken Naitanui....

Uhm.. Let me stoop my grammar down that low, and I'll see if I can understand what that means.

Under-rated means under-rated. Meaning, people (mainly insecure Victorians), go "He's tall, athletic and Fijian, he obviously has no football skills whatsoever" which is wrong. His skills are elite for someone over 200cm, which isn't just my opinion.

I think you mean your comprehension skills need work first.

may I suggest to you:

www.dictionary.com

go for it! the world is your oyster.
 
Re: Melbourne should of taken Naitanui....

isn't underrated another way of saying: yes everyone thinks shit?

yes you're right. I will have to console myself with a proper education and understanding of the English language.

wanna trade? :p

Sorry, but how the hell does that make sense?
 
It's just some conspiracy that Victorians who have never seen him play, and that he's a black fijian, that he cannot kick or have any football skills.

Uhm.. Let me stoop my grammar down that low, and I'll see if I can understand what that means.

Under-rated means under-rated. Meaning, people (mainly insecure Victorians), go "He's tall, athletic and Fijian, he obviously has no football skills whatsoever" which is wrong. His skills are elite for someone over 200cm, which isn't just my opinion.

Thats twice you've thrown in the race card. Do you seriously believe anyone thinks that him being 'black and fijian' is the reason why he cant kick? IM not saying he can't coz i've not seen anything bar his debut game, but judging by this garbage your pumping out i'll assume your opinion on his kicking is as flawed and as such:

Mark Blakes kicking > Nicknats Kicking
 
Re: Melbourne should of taken Naitanui....

Sorry, but how the hell does that make sense?

good to see you trying to catch up. that's a start.

took a while, but you've gotten to the starting point eventually.

for my one and only act of community service this year, I will make a last attempt to help the less fortunate.

ok, are you ready?

sure?

right, lets begin.

to underrate something is to proclaim it less good than another person might think is fair. in this case, that person is you. when something is underrated it is the consensus of the majority that something is less good, than the person making the accusation happens to believe.

now if we break that down further, the fundamental underlying point here is that by your own admission natanui is underrated; ergo the consensus believes he is less good than you want to believe. in the absence of any hard evidence, all we have from your proposition is a reiteration that the majority believes he is not very good i.e. in colourful terms: Shit.

and as you have provided no effective counter or rebuttal, effectively all you have done is draw our attention to the fact that you have an estimation of his abilities that exceeds consensus. which makes you a homer, and does nothing to dispell the majority opinion.

well done you :thumbsu:
 

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