Michael Warners article 04/12/24. How woke and hypocritical the afl has become.

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What's their to think about, the definition of normal?

To me that's a pass.

All a child wants is attention, give 'em that and they'll never be miserable.

I have no doubt that with these transgender children the liberal progressive parents (and their neglect of their children) are to blame, yeah they can take their child to the doctors, counsellors, phsycologists, schools, and what do they expect them to do, observe their child for 'em? work out if their child is transgender for 'em? and if they tell the inconsequential liberal progressive parent that their child is transgender what then? the liberal progressive parent tells himself: "that's great, I knew it wasn't something I did, or didn't do." These liberal progressive parents prefer a transgender child than for the finger to be pointed at their parenting, and then go on to use their transgender child to point the finger at the Christian culture that I have every right to conserve. I gotta say I'm not a fan of this liberal progressive behaviour, it's like they want a culture war in this multucultural society, it's f****** madness I'm telling ya.


When you say "former step child" do you mean they died, or just moved on to another dad, let the new dad take up from where the first and second dad left off? That wouldn't be ideal would it, and if not ideal how is that good for a child? That's another scenario the liberal progressive has made normal for their own good and not a child's.
A gutless new troll account is not worth the effort, it is worthy of a ban though.
 
I have no doubt that with these transgender children the liberal progressive parents (and their neglect of their children) are to blame
Get in the bin.
 

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Lol I didn't even call for that Gold Coast fan to be banned for saying "bible shit," which is obviously trolling.

Are you a parent that failed your child, is that what's got you upset?
I hope you’re a troll and not really a Richmond supporter.
 
I don't think most people I disagree with on here are bad people, but you certainly are whether you're just trolling or not.

I feel sorry for your kids if they exist.
 
Don't forget about the communist infiltration of my Church, there is a lot of those evil bastards in the Church.

Anyway, I condemn those priests for choosing the evil. Of course I would prefer if no one chose the evil over the good. In fact, I would say more choose the evil in your world, would you agree with that? There are a lot more people in your world than there are priests.
What is "my world"?
Did you want me to answer NO to the question I was asked?
You think it's your job as a parent to dictate your child's sexuality. That's genuinely one of the most abhorrent things I have read on here. It's no surprise that you cowardly made a new account to post it.
 
What a dumb post, I'm not changing my argument, people bring up ridiculous "what about XXY chromosome" arguments and then said biological men can get pregnant, I then asked for evidence and everyone went silent.

It's very easy to know what a man and women is.

Individuals can call themselves whatever they want, that doesn't change male and female.

Some of the responses you are getting from people on here are seriously disturbing. The brainwashing on this stuff has been nuts, social engineering.
 
🤣🤣🤣 hey, just because it's right for you, it's not for me, so obviously it's wrong, and wrong is not good. You're not after my approval are ya?
No, I'm just curious as to how far your small-mindedness goes. It's rather like watching a car accident happening in slow motion. I can only be glad your sons aren't gay and hope nobody in future suffers due to your intolerance.
 

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If anyone can post the link I would appreciate it.
Probably i may be wrong the first journalist to take the afl on. In regards to this subject.
Afl hypocrisy in era of identity politics is turning fans against one another
Persistent more then that is required welcome to country ceremonies, Pride rounds, knee dropping, race baiting dosent unite Australians but creates a growing level of resentment turning us against each other
Footballs capture by the woke movement has always reeked of hypocrisy
Your thoughts guys? maybe I am old fashioned but sports organisations should just stick to the best interest of the game, and growing it
You are saying the AFL is aware of and sensitive to injustices towards African Americans?


It seems unlikely.


That or you are looking for another term.
 
I'm curious. What is it about being a Collingwood supporter that makes a person more qualified in the understanding of racism?
I am a Collingwood supporter and I understand a fair bit about racism to Aboriginals.
 
Mate i have similar stories about Chris Lewis you would not believe how blatant the racism from players at the time
towards him
I know other aboriginal players have stated in thee late 80's early 90's he was the most racially abused player
I remember being on the boundary fence at the 3 tier stand end one game against Melbourne in the pocket and clearly
hearing Melbourne players at the time saying to knock the **** head of and other comments cant really say now
I was so shocked at the time
Oh I believe it. You should see how bad it was at local level.
 
Oh I believe it. You should see how bad it was at local level.
I'm finding it hard to follow this thread, but as far as I can make out, someone thinks the AFL has "gone too far" and we need to go back to indigenous blokes getting sledged, demonising non Christians, and something mean about the trans people not existing?

The AFL leadership is trash in my view, but leaders like Michael Long have had a crack at cleaning up the filthy racism in our game.

If the league backs him up then they're doing something good.
 
I'm finding it hard to follow this thread, but as far as I can make out, someone thinks the AFL has "gone too far" and we need to go back to indigenous blokes getting sledged, demonising non Christians, and something mean about the trans people not existing?

The AFL leadership is trash in my view, but leaders like Michael Long have had a crack at cleaning up the filthy racism in our game.

If the league backs him up then they're doing something good.
Remember when it was considered "woke" - or whatever the equivalent word was back then - when Des Headland had his suspension for striking overturned, after it was revealed Adam Selwood sledged him by saying "I f***ed her last night" referring to a tattoo of Headland's 6-year-old daughter?
 
Jeez, who’da thought this thread was gunna turn into a pile on.
As I said at the very start of this thread...the Right don't understand that to them what is simply an ideologically view - is often a direct, personal situation that another person is literally living.

So expressing what some see as just their opinion, can trigger a personal reaction from others.

This is because they're not dealing in ideologies - they're dealing with their lived experience.

The Right don't understand that.

It's not a case of 'the Left don't want to discuss things and just pile on!'. It's usually a case of someone saying that something that is deeply personally offensive or upsetting to someone else.

Discussions are pretty easy when both sides are just ideologies. But when one side is personally impacted - it's naive not to expect a reaction.


To be fair, the Left do this too. People with left wing economic ideologies often trigger people that have worked hard their whole lives to get by and make themselves and their families financially secure by suggesting they take stuff away from them. That they don't deserve too much stuff and that they're greedy arseholes for being cashed up.

To the Lefties that can usually be a view based on an ideology - to the other person it can be a direct attack on them and their family's wellbeing.

Same goes for people hanging shit on religion.



It's one of the reasons the COVID thing was so severe. For many people, the whole thing was a 'public health crisis' and everyone had their role to play. Get vax'd dude, stay home, etc. etc.

But if you truly had lived your life in a way that was anti Vax in any way, or owned a business or suffered from any sort of mental health issues that was impacted by isolation - you saw this stuff as a direct attack on you and who you are. To others it may have been an ideological debate - to some it was deeply personal.
 
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What the hell is identity politics?

Identity politics is a leftist belief that all racial and sexual beliefs are idiots who all think and act alike. So for example in the USA democrats import as many illegal latino immigrants as possible to make the legal latinos vote for them when they are now more numerous than white people.

But guess what? Legal latinos are actually more conservative than white people LOL. They don't want more illegals coming and destroying the country, why would they? So they vote Trump in record numbers.

Easiest way for an Aussie to think about it is you move to Bali in good faith and find yourself surrounded by drug addicted bogan alcoholic Aussies. Do you support them just because you are also an Aussie ? Or do you despise them ? This is identity politics and why Trump won
 
One thing I hate about our culture is its rabidness to eat red meat like this. This is not an actual 'issue'. 'Woke' is often just a term for not behaving like a campaigner to people, or to acknowledge a group of people who are hard done by. Often it's completley fabricated (like 'pride round in OP') so the outrage doesn't even have to be tied to reality.

Do you know what's actually worthy of outrage and debate? Political corruption. Corporate corruption. The two tiered justice system we have based on class. Misinformation and how we can address it. These are things that all directly impact all of our lives.

we're just a culture of sheep focusing on whatever the media, both mainstream and alternative, tell us to focus on, whipping is into superficial but intense divides while the government and wealthy seize ever more control and resources. ****ing morons.
 
It's one of the reasons the COVID thing was so severe. For many people, the whole thing was a 'public health crisis' and everyone had their role to play. Get vax'd dude, stay home, etc. etc.

But if you truly had lived your life in a way that was anti Vax in any way, or owned a business or suffered from any sort of mental health issues that was impacted by isolation - you saw this stuff as a direct attack on you and who you are. To others it may have been an ideological debate - to some it was deeply personal.
Some of us were pro-vax and knew people who were elderly or had issues with their immune systems, and didn't want them to die because of some unvaccinated person becoming a super-spreader. It was deeply personal on both sides.
 
Identity politics is a leftist belief that all racial and sexual beliefs are idiots who all think and act alike. So for example in the USA democrats import as many illegal latino immigrants as possible to make the legal latinos vote for them when they are now more numerous than white people.
What utter nonsense.
 
Some of us were pro-vax and knew people who were elderly or had issues with their immune systems, and didn't want them to die because of some unvaccinated person becoming a super-spreader. It was deeply personal on both sides.
No doubt.

Most debates are deeply personal on both sides for some of those involved in the debate.

From my experience though, most people are debating ideologies.
 
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