minor premiership

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dzeko24

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Mar 14, 2012
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i think west coast and carlton could win it

i placed some money on the hawks a few weeks back to win it did i make a mistake ?

if i had to say whod win it now id say carlton.

thoughts?
 

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The key for West Coast is that they have to finish top 2, if they do they will make the grand final for sure. Carlton's Problem is that if they have to travel then they are stuffed. So West Coast to finish 1st and the cats 2nd
 
The key for West Coast is that they have to finish top 2, if they do they will make the grand final for sure. Carlton's Problem is that if they have to travel then they are stuffed. So West Coast to finish 1st and the cats 2nd

big call on the eagles here!! shit i hope your correct:thumbsu: i would settle for 4th spot
 
i think west coast and carlton could win it

i placed some money on the hawks a few weeks back to win it did i make a mistake ?

if i had to say whod win it now id say carlton.

thoughts?

So because the Eagles have beaten the Dogs and Richmond,while the Blues have the Tigers and Brisbane that makes them the Minor Premiers?

If you keep this form up,you'll have Adelaide as outright favourites for the flag.
 
it is really hard to predict who will finish top

the top 5 are so tight..

geelong will do some damage

the injuries of embley, le cras and ncoski could take its toll on west coast

carlton havent taken a big scalp yet

and who knows where collingwood are at

my money is on geelong or hawthorn at this stage

with west coast, collingwood and carlton 3rd to 5th
 
considering we have a pretty good draw (tho we still play hawks, pies, dockers twice) i wouldn't completely rule it out, but it would take a monster effort with no more injuries.
we would need to win all (or at least 10/12) games in perth, plus about 5-8 away for this to happen.
our away schedule is:

Bulldogs (WIN)
GWS (WIN)
Richmond (75% chance WIN)
Essendon (50/50)
Brisbane (75% chance WIN)
Collingwood (LOSS)
North (50/50)
Adelaide (50/50 although we have a good record against the crows away)
Port (40/60 we have a shocking record against them)
Hawks (Probable LOSS)

i think we could possibly win 8 of those, but most likely around 5-6.
this post has slowly convinced me that no we won't finish top 2, but 3rd or 4th are a real possibility, which means barring a miracle no grand final :(
 
i think west coast and carlton could win it

i placed some money on the hawks a few weeks back to win it did i make a mistake ?

if i had to say whod win it now id say carlton.

thoughts?

if your such a strong doubter because the Hawks dropped a big game in round 2 and the blues have beaten a couple of non contenders.... we'll you just go ahead and call your betting agency and hedge your bet.

I'm sure they'll be happy to hear from you.... each week.
 
the only worry for the hawks is their draw they play west coast, geelong and collingwood twice.

still i think they are good enough to be top 2
 

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West Coast or Adelaide seem the top choices for top spot right now, if Collingwood get their act together it could be them too.
 
it could be any of a number of teams as there are a number of teams good enough, it willl come down to injuries and who is in and who is out and who is fit over the season. Same as to who wins the flag this year. Any of Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn and WCE's who finish top 4 and who have the fittest and closest to best 22 with the least top 10 players out will win it. None of this can be known yet.
 
"Minor Premiership" what a ridiculous term. Who wants to be the "minor" anything in a sporting competition? The League dispensed with the title more than 100 years ago.

The Argus 3 October 1925.

TO-DAY'S SPORT.
FOOTBALL.
League Preliminary Final.
By OLD BOY

On Saturday last at the Melbourne Cricket ground some Geelong enthusiasts were discussing the question, and claimed that the Geelong club should have been acclaimed as "minor premiers". They could not understand why this had not been done, but Mr. E.L. Wilson* (the League secretary) on being appealed to said, "It is 25 years since the minor premiership idea was abandoned" ' Several correspondents have written on the subject, and have pointed out that in the country the custom is to use the term "minor premier". This explanation should set to rest all doubt on the subject, us far as the League premiership is concerned.

*
Wilson was the founding secretary (CEO equivalent) of the League in 1896. After his death, from 1929 until into the 1960's the Premiers had their name engraved on the E.L. Wilson Shield which was then held by the club until another club were Premiers.

AFL 2011 Annual Report.

We also congratulate Collingwood on reaching the
Toyota AFL Grand Final for the second successive year and
for winning the Dr Wm. C. McClelland Trophy for finishing
on top of the ladder
after the premiership season
, also for
the second successive year.

No mention of Collingwood being the "minor premiers".

The AFL Record Season Guide -the official statistical history of the AFL, has no table of "minor premiers".

The term is used in other sporting competitions but not the AFL.
"Finishing on top of the ladder" sounds like something of value in a sporting competition, being the "minor" something does not. No wonder the League abandoned it long, long ago.

More about the myth of the minor premiers.
 
Both Sydney at 1.75 and Adelaide 1.85 for top eight were gimmees. Not sure about how they'll go at finals time but WC at 15 got the minor prem was a great bet.
 
Carlton have done nothing to show they can finish top at the end of the H&A season. A lot will be shown this Friday, but calm down - they have beaten Richmond and Brisbane.

Its record against the top sides is extremely poor these last couple years.

Ceratinly will push very hard for top four, and if I had to guess I'd say Collingwood is the likeliest of last years top four to be displaced.

West Coast on the other hand, they are going to flog a lot of sides at Subi this year - they might be a show.
 
The main contenders: Hawthorn, Geelong, Carlton, Collingwood and West Coast need to play against each other a few more times before you can really consider this.

Cats are 1-0 against contenders
Hawks are 1-1 against contenders
Collingwood are 0-1 against contenders
Carlton and West Coast haven't played any contenders yet.

Then you have to consider the draw - and without checking I thinking Carlton have it a bit easier because the top 4 from last year have to play each other twice each and Carlton doesn't get that, so they may have a 4-8 point advantage on the others which is significant at that end of the ladder.
 

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