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the_interloper said:
I've heard of primary education but not nursing. Why do they feel they need men in nursing anyway?
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Because back in the 1950's men were expected to work in 'bloke' jobs to support a family/pay off mortgage/pay bills etc.

The 'Patriarchy' made it nigh on impossible for cisgender males to reach their health care career goals.

You couldn't be a stay-at-home dad or a nurse lest you be called a big girls blouse, or worse. There was a lot of discrimination and bullying about the place.
 

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British Labour MP who wants to make Misogyny a thought crime - Link here Dont worry about Misandry though...

"..if you thought thoughtcrime was confined to the realm of George Orwell’s imagination, think again. New legislation proposed by Labour MP Stella Creasy aims to make misogyny a hate crime. A crime that is proven to have been ‘motivated by misogyny’ would receive a tougher sentence than a crime not motivated by misogyny. In short, people will be punished not only for what they do, but also for what they think"

and another couple of videos discussing the matter



 
CheapCharlie said:
British Labour MP who wants to make Misogyny a thought crime - Link here Dont worry about Misandry though...

"..if you thought thoughtcrime was confined to the realm of George Orwell’s imagination, think again. New legislation proposed by Labour MP Stella Creasy aims to make misogyny a hate crime. A crime that is proven to have been ‘motivated by misogyny’ would receive a tougher sentence than a crime not motivated by misogyny. In short, people will be punished not only for what they do, but also for what they think"

and another couple of videos discussing the matter
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But this already happens.

Intent, motivation etc are taken into consideration.

So killing someone while only intending to stop a physical attack in your child is defensible in court.

Killing someone intentionally with the motivation of stopping them exposing your theft from your place of work isn’t.

Otherwise this is a silly idea but the concept is old as the hills.
 
Chief said:
But this already happens.

Intent, motivation etc are taken into consideration.

So killing someone while only intending to stop a physical attack in your child is defensible in court.

Killing someone intentionally with the motivation of stopping them exposing your theft from your place of work isn’t.

Otherwise this is a silly idea but the concept is old as the hills.
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You are using and example at the upper extreme end of the range, that being the act of killing someone.

The legalisation proposed in the UK would cover acts such as whistling or comments taken by a complainant as being inappropriate, or any suggestive comment which would would be considered a hate crime , as an unwanted sexual advance
 

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CheapCharlie said:
You are using and example at the upper extreme end of the range, that being the act of killing someone.

The legalisation proposed in the UK would cover acts such as whistling or comments taken by a complainant as being inappropriate, or any suggestive comment which would would be considered a hate crime , as an unwanted sexual advance
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OK now you’re giving details instead of ranty videos. Good work.
 
Bumpswithagrin said:
Agree, as a woman I find these type of things patronising and embarrassing. Best person for the job, male or female.
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My wife is succesful, beautiful, intelligent and a bloody hard worker. Her success is her own. She despises a lot of what modern feminism stands for. Best person for the job is her mantra as well pink green gay martian or white male etc
 
Milkshaker said:
My wife is succesful, beautiful, intelligent and a bloody hard worker. Her success is her own. She despises a lot of what modern feminism stands for. Best person for the job is her mantra as well pink green gay martian or white male etc
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She needs to check her privilege. As a straight, cisgenderer, cisabled, white, western, brain-gifted, capitalist, she's the second most privileged group on the planet right below the male version according to the Heirarchy of Oppression©. It's the only way she can spout this dog-whistle "Meritocracy"-ism.
 
ShanDog said:
She needs to check her privilege. As a straight, cisgenderer, cisabled, white, western, brain-gifted, capitalist, she's the second most privileged group on the planet right below the male version according to the Heirarchy of Oppression©. It's the only way she can spout this dog-whistle "Meritocracy"-ism.
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I identify as an attack helicopter and I feel oppressed by RPG's and those who wield them.
 

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ShanDog said:
What sort of chopper? If it's an American one, you can be sure you're appropriating Native American culture and should be ashamed of yourself.
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Very good.
 
CheapCharlie said:
You are using and example at the upper extreme end of the range, that being the act of killing someone.

The legalisation proposed in the UK would cover acts such as whistling or comments taken by a complainant as being inappropriate, or any suggestive comment which would would be considered a hate crime , as an unwanted sexual advance
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I think you have the wrong end of it there.

An actual crime still has to be committed.
 
ShanDog said:
She needs to check her privilege. As a straight, cisgenderer, cisabled, white, western, brain-gifted, capitalist, she's the second most privileged group on the planet right below the male version according to the Heirarchy of Oppression. It's the only way she can spout this dog-whistle "Meritocracy"-ism.
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His wife read as Driven Asian to me
 
Milkshaker said:
My wife is succesful, beautiful, intelligent and a bloody hard worker. Her success is her own. She despises a lot of what modern feminism stands for. Best person for the job is her mantra as well pink green gay martian or white male etc
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What does she think modern feminism stands for?

This would be where this thread crosses over with the ‘feminism’ thread I suppose.
 
Chief said:
An actual crime still has to be committed.
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oh chief, that is so last week. We are now on to non crime hate in the UK!

"In addition to reporting hate crime, please report non-crime hate incidents, which can include things like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing. Hate will not be tolerated in South Yorkshire. Report it and put a stop to it"
 
medusala said:
oh chief, that is so last week. We are now on to non crime hate in the UK!

"In addition to reporting hate crime, please report non-crime hate incidents, which can include things like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing. Hate will not be tolerated in South Yorkshire. Report it and put a stop to it"
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Do you think these sorts of things are often precursors to actual crimes?

I don’t see much problem with reporting that sort of thing. If something happens, are you going to find patterns of that behaviour and start your inquiries there?
 
Chief said:
Do you think these sorts of things are often precursors to actual crimes?

I don’t see much problem with reporting that sort of thing. If something happens, are you going to find patterns of that behaviour and start your inquiries there?
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Half of the posters on big footy would need to be reported
 
CheapCharlie said:
Half of the posters on big footy would need to be reported
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We have a world wide problem with under reporting of sexual assault. Don’t know that there will be some sort of plague of people reporting mere insults.
 
Chief said:
We have a world wide problem with under reporting of sexual assault. Don’t know that there will be some sort of plague of people reporting mere insults.
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That's what that particular UK police force is avtovely ecouraging people to report though..
Non crimes such as offensive online commenys
 
CheapCharlie said:
That's what that particular UK police force is avtovely ecouraging people to report though..
Non crimes such as offensive online commenys
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Yes, but do you think it will result in people reporting everything they are mildly offended by? What are they getting reported now?

"Hate comments" probably aren't mere insults or impoliteness.
 

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