Mega Thread Miscellaneous Freo Discussion thread

[Mogumber]

Melbourne were a "deadset" basket case, now they are the best in the League.
Anything can happen from here

 

[Daddoo]

After careful analysis by Sean, he determined that Freo is…

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[Dale147]

Fyfe

 

[DragoDelph]

Haven’t lost a first, or last quarter this season.

Getting nervous with all this positive energy


Beware the purple bulldozers: Freo's huge final-term turnaround

 

[Quazar]

It's got a cool ring to it: purple bulldozers. I like it.

You beat me to it, the posting of the article. I know it feels 'nervy', but we're moving in the right direction - I'm just gonna enjoy it for what it is, I feel like no matter what, the team can't disappoint me this season, not anymore - obviously I was 'dejected' after the Saints game like everyone else, but only because of the "purple passion" we all have to see this club achieve success. Irrespective of what happens....the now and the future to come is what excites me....it's building

 

[Fat Nyfe]

When do the Rising star noms get announced? Surely NOD had the best game of those eligible on the weekend

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

When do the Rising star noms get announced? Surely NOD had the best game of those eligible on the weekend

Newcombe from Hawks will pip him unfortunately

 

[Big Animal]

Newcombe from Hawks will pip him unfortunately

yeah, he was real good

 

[anchor man]

Melbourne were a "deadset" basket case, now they are the best in the League.
Anything can happen from here

Agree, but remember that the AFL have been spoon feeding the Demons for many many many years.
They were always the first to have their hands out for a bonus.
They were given CEO!! from appointed by the AFL.
They were provided with a a coach as a mentor, Paul Roos.
All free of charge.
If only Fremantle had been given the same bonuses.
Fremantle have never put their hand out for assistance since our inception. In fact I remember that the Greek and his little buddy coming over here and belting us with a baseball bat and threatening us with being removed from the AFL if we didn't get our sheeeit together.
We wont get the boost from the AFL that Melbourne got.

 

[Taylor]

They mentioned that Paul Roos was paid about $1.6m a year to work for Melbourne in that period too.

 

[anchor man]

They mentioned that Paul Roos was paid about $1.6m a year to work for Melbourne in that period too.

The miracle that is Melbourne did not just happen because of anything that MFC did.

 

[Quazar]

Agree, but remember that the AFL have been spoon feeding the Demons for many many many years.
They were always the first to have their hands out for a bonus.
They were given CEO!! from appointed by the AFL.
They were provided with a a coach as a mentor, Paul Roos.
All free of charge.
If only Fremantle had been given the same bonuses.
Fremantle have never put their hand out for assistance since our inception. In fact I remember that the Greek and his little buddy coming over here and belting us with a baseball bat and threatening us with being removed from the AFL if we didn't get our sheeeit together.
We wont get the boost from the AFL that Melbourne got.

Which makes what we're doing all the more sweeter

 

[anchor man]

Which makes what we're doing all the more sweeter

Of course it does. It is just nice to make people aware that miracles don't JUST happen. They are set up.

 

[Purpletown]

Though I want all the players to succeed, I have my favourites, just like most. But at the moment I am torn between O'Driscoll and Brodie as to which one is my favourite player.
Both giving the team great value.

Similar for me plus Schultz, the three Musketeers.

 

[holybishop]

Fremantle coaches in isolation

Fremantle will be without two assistant coaches on Saturday against Carlton

www.fremantlefc.com.au

That's annoying

 

[BStaff17]

Melbourne were a "deadset" basket case, now they are the best in the League.
Anything can happen from here

Melbourne fans must still feel like its a dream tbh how they are going.

They were punching bags and laughing stock for a decade.

 

[DeanS]

Fremantle coaches in isolation

Fremantle will be without two assistant coaches on Saturday against Carlton

www.fremantlefc.com.au

That's annoying

For you or the coaches?

For some reason I get the feeling it will make close to bugger all difference on game day.

 

[Dockeroo]

In fact I remember that the Greek and his little buddy coming over here and belting us with a baseball bat and threatening us with being removed from the AFL if we didn't get our sheeeit together.
We wont get the boost from the AFL that Melbourne got.

What exactly is this about? Haven’t heard this before. Unsurprising of course.

 

[Purple Suit]

Haven’t lost a first, or last quarter this season.

Getting nervous with all this positive energy


Beware the purple bulldozers: Freo's huge final-term turnaround

The bigger positive is we’ve kicked six more goals than points this year. Probably the main area we need to maintain to make finals & start to challenge.

 

[ImperialPurple]

What exactly is this about? Haven’t heard this before. Unsurprising of course.

Someone might know the story better, but from memory it goes something like this.
2001 Freo couldn’t win a game to save themselves. Owen hung around till Rd 17, coach had been sacked, nothing was going right. The board was a bit of a mess, no one seemed to know their arseh*le from their elbow and the club was millions (around 6 I think) of dollars in debt.
Head honchos from AFL house came over, basically said ‘you can’t survive like this’, announced to the world that Freo were ‘a basket case’ and told the club to clean up its act, fix up the money mismanagement, get their shit together in a big way or potentially lose their license.
In desperation the Croad trade was made to try and bring back some fans by landing a big name player from the east, Chris ‘the showman’ Connolly was brought on board, and together with Cameron ‘shiny suit’ Schwab, the club was sold as starting a new golden era, supporters came back and new ones jumped on, things turned, and Freo continues.
So other than a ‘get your shit together or we’ll fold you’ the club received no assistance or leg up in the way that St Kilda, North Melbourne, Footscray and Melbourne were receiving and continued to receive. Basically a ‘grow up and stand on your own two feet’.
Meanwhile the above mentioned clubs were in debt up to their eyeballs and unable to survive without money being poured in from the AFL, then within a decade GCS and GWS were introduced with bezillions of AFL dollars pouring in, but Freo got nothing.
Pretty much sums up our entire existence, really. Sink or swim.

 

[ignoramus]

Someone might know the story better, but from memory it goes something like this.
2001 Freo couldn’t win a game to save themselves. Owen hung around till Rd 17, coach had been sacked, nothing was going right. The board was a bit of a mess, no one seemed to know their a-hole from their elbow and the club was millions (around 6 I think) of dollars in debt.
Head honchos from AFL house came over, basically said ‘you can’t survive like this’, announced to the world that Freo were ‘a basket case’ and told the club to clean up its act, fix up the money mismanagement, get their shit together in a big way or potentially lose their license.
In desperation the Croad trade was made to try and bring back some fans by landing a big name player from the east, Chris ‘the showman’ Connolly was brought on board, and together with Cameron ‘shiny suit’ Schwab, the club was sold as starting a new golden era, supporters came back and new ones jumped on, things turned, and Freo continues.
So other than a ‘get your shit together or we’ll fold you’ the club received no assistance or leg up in the way that St Kilda, North Melbourne, Footscray and Melbourne were receiving and continued to receive. Basically a ‘grow up and stand on your own two feet’.
Meanwhile the above mentioned clubs were in debt up to their eyeballs and unable to survive without money being poured in from the AFL, then within a decade GCS and GWS were introduced with bezillions of AFL dollars pouring in, but Freo got nothing.
Pretty much sums up our entire existence, really. Sink or swim.

Relevant, given our current ladder position vis-a-vis our finishing position over the last 6 years.


Rebuild revitaliser: Why AFL should bring in THIS priority pick rule

 

[Purple Suit]

Relevant, given our current ladder position vis-a-vis our finishing position over the last 6 years.


Rebuild revitaliser: Why AFL should bring in THIS priority pick rule

I don’t like it. There are enough ways to get good and enough equalisation methods these days to reduce the influence of funding differences between teams. 1 pick at year 5 is probably at the end of your rebuild and only going to impact your tilt at the pointy end rather than making finals. Johnson was basically a live example of this idea, if we treat Brodie like the player he is and not a salary dump. When Johnson wins the norm smith after our 3rd straight flag, other teams would be losing their minds if he was a priority pick.

 

[WaywardSonSon]

I don’t like it. There are enough ways to get good and enough equalisation methods these days to reduce the influence of funding differences between teams. 1 pick at year 5 is probably at the end of your rebuild and only going to impact your tilt at the pointy end rather than making finals. Johnson was basically a live example of this idea, if we treat Brodie like the player he is and not a salary dump. When Johnson wins the norm smith after our 3 straight flag, other teams would be losing their minds if he was a priority pick.

Riley Beveridge can kiss the fattest part of my ass!

 

[Taylor]

The issue I have with that plan is the reason the previous priority pick system failed was that it was arbitrary and gameable, it treated all examples of meeting the thresholds as equal. You just won less than 4.5 games two years in a row and you got pick #1.

Now let's look at the four examples of clubs who qualify.
Fremantle: I'd argue that the reason we haven't played finals in almost 7 years is because our players got injured and other players left for big money deals elsewhere - but we have drafted well.
Carlton: They lost significantly more talent, trading them off for picks to swap for other players from mostly GWS. Their drafting has been rubbish and they are padding out their list now with trades and free agents to compensate.
North: If Carlton lost significant talent then North took it two steps more - dropping everyone who wasn't immediately best twenty two and cutting deep. Not offering a deal to their key forward (now a premiership player) because they were going heavy into the youth policy.
GC: They couldn't have had more access to talent but they don't value the talent or the picks. They traded a pick just outside the top ten for a pick just prior to #30 to pick a player they had just previously drafted with a top three pick for the similar role after they had secured a mature player for that role in the free agency period before the draft. This follows the same pattern as with Will Brodie

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Will Brodie

Age

26

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

, except Sharp has yet to be given away for free, give that time. They trade a pick in the 40s for Lyons and then give him away for nothing. They use a top ten pick on Ah Chee and swap him for a second rounder.

These four are not at all equal.

 

[WaywardSonSon]

The issue I have with that plan is the reason the previous priority pick system failed was that it was arbitrary and gameable, it treated all examples of meeting the thresholds as equal. You just won less than 4.5 games two years in a row and you got pick #1.

Now let's look at the four examples of clubs who qualify.
Fremantle: I'd argue that the reason we haven't played finals in almost 7 years is because our players got injured and other players left for big money deals elsewhere - but we have drafted well.
Carlton: They lost significantly more talent, trading them off for picks to swap for other players from mostly GWS. Their drafting has been rubbish and they are padding out their list now with trades and free agents to compensate.
North: If Carlton lost significant talent then North took it two steps more - dropping everyone who wasn't immediately best twenty two and cutting deep. Not offering a deal to their key forward (now a premiership player) because they were going heavy into the youth policy.
GC: They couldn't have had more access to talent but they don't value the talent or the picks. They traded a pick just outside the top ten for a pick just prior to #30 to pick a player they had just previously drafted with a top three pick for the similar role after they had secured a mature player for that role in the free agency period before the draft. This follows the same pattern as with Will Brodie, except Sharp has yet to be given away for free, give that time. They trade a pick in the 40s for Lyons and then give him away for nothing. They use a top ten pick on Ah Chee and swap him for a second rounder.

These four are not at all equal.

This sentence got me like...