Current Mosque Mass Shootings - Christchurch New Zealand

[Herne Hill Hammer]

It was Indians in Fiji , treated the locals with contempt and they also. owned most of the businesses. Started in the 1970s.

and got voted into power in, when was it, 1987 when Rabuka staged the coup? When I was in the Navy, I supervised a young woman of Indian decent who had fled Fiji with her family at that time. She told me that her father was one of the ones voted in and was set to be a minister.

She was smoking hot but trouble with a capital T. If I supervised 40 odd people, her and a young bloke were 85% of my work.

 

[BFew]

Nice Graphic on Tarrant's path to radicalisation

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213482

Christchurch mosque shootings: Accused gunman's potential links to British extremist groups probed
Britain's MI5 is investigating potential links between the alleged Christchurch shooter and domestic extremist groups after the accused gunman made an explicit threat against London mayor Sadiq Khan. The Sunday Times has reported this morning that MI5 - tasked with the United Kingdom's counter-intelligence and security - has taken the lead in the investigation. The particular UK focus was linked by the Sunday Times to the alleged gunman's so-called manifesto, distributed by email and published online shortly before Friday's attack began. The manifesto said specifically named Khan and terror attacks in Britain

 

[Kurve]

I wonder if Tarrant was taking steroids in recent times?
I bet he was.

If he'd done his homework and we can assume he did, Anders Breivik was using steroids and shot up just prior to launching his attacks in Norway.

 

[BFew]

If he'd done his homework and we can assume he did, Anders Breivik was using steroids and shot up just prior to launching his attacks in Norway.

His homework source is still in plain sight on the internet.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...k-took-stimulants-before-massacre-expert.html

Before he launched his July 22 bomb attac on a government building in Oslo and went on a shooting rampage on Utoeya island, Breivik said he had taken an an ECA stack, a combination of ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin.
This mix is illegal in Norway and the United States among other countries but is popular among body-builders and is often used for weight loss and as a stimulant. "He was slightly to moderately under the influence of a high affecting the central nervous system," Professor Joerg Moerland of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health told the Oslo district court on the 28th day of Breivik's trial.
The 33-year-old right-wing extremist has said he took 50 percent more than the normal ECA stack dose authorised in the European Union only a few hours before his attacks. Breivik has told the court the drug cocktail allows "the brain to absorb more oxygen and this results in better physical and mental performance."

Before he launched his July 22 bomb attack on a government building in Oslo and went on a shooting rampage on Utoeya island, Breivik said he had taken an an ECA stack, a combination of ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin. This mix is illegal in Norway and the United States among other countries but is popular among body-builders and is often used for weight loss and as a stimulant. "He was slightly to moderately under the influence of a high affecting the central nervous system," Professor Joerg Moerland of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health told the Oslo district court on the 28th day of Breivik's trial.
The 33-year-old right-wing extremist has said he took 50 percent more than the normal ECA stack dose authorised in the European Union only a few hours before his attacks. Breivik has told the court the drug cocktail allows "the brain to absorb more oxygen and this results in better physical and mental performance."

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

With his travelling around, it reminds me a bit of Hicks, although Hicks is pretty much a **** as by the sounds of it, he was only going over and running with these organisations because he wanted to see what it was like to kill someone.

I know I digress but Hicks should have been shot where he stood when they found him.

 

[BFew]

Anders Breivik was using steroids and shot up just prior to launching his attacks in Norway.

I wonder how many other similarities there were between Tarrant and Breivik?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik#Adulthood

According to Belarusian opposition figure Mikhail Reshetnikov,[58] Anders Breivik underwent paramilitary training in a camp organised by retired KGB colonel Valery Lunev. According to Reshetnikov, Breivik visited Belarus three times and had lasting connections with the country. According to official data, Breivik visited Belarus only once, as a tourist in 2005

Looks like Breivik maybe travelled under False ID's.

Did Tarrant ever travel on a false passport?

Breivik claims that in 2002 (at the age of 23) he started a nine-year-plan to finance the 2011 attacks, founding his own computer programming business while working at the customer service company. He claims that his company grew to six employees and "several offshore bank accounts", and that he made his first million kroner at the age of 24.

Or was Breivik being financed by someone or making his $ from some illegal activities?

Likewise with Tarrant's claims of financing his travels partly form Crypto currency trading profits. Could be complete BS to hide where he was getting his funds from.

 

[Badge666]

With his travelling around, it reminds me a bit of Hicks, although Hicks is pretty much a **** as by the sounds of it, he was only going over and running with these organisations because he wanted to see what it was like to kill someone.

I know I digress but Hicks should have been shot where he stood when they found him.

Another quality post.( Not) . Tool.

 

[Kurve]

His homework source is still in plain sight on the internet.

Anabolic steroids gets a mention here as well but I'd read it years ago, they were found in his system apparently. The similarities between Breivik and Tarrant are many, Breivik also travelled.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/aug/24/anders-behring-breivik-profile-oslo

 

[Feerits Elf]

Several neighbours of Tarrant's, who said he gave "a friendly wave" as they passed in the street, said he had noticeably bulked up in recent months.

"He's a stocky little guy, but you could see he had got leaner," one male neighbour told news.com.au.

1. Bulked up
2. Got leaner

Pick one

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Another quality post.( Not) . Tool.

I'm sorry, did I hurt your feelings the other day John?

 

[Tiges1229]

why did it take police so long to get there , unbelievable . The campaigner went in and out of the first mosque to his car like two times , shooting into street etc !! Back into his car driving off and still no police in sight .

 

[Kurve]

1. Bulked up
2. Got leaner

Pick one

Both, for muscle growth, strength and they promote leanness as well. Tight, lean and mean.

 

[BFew]

why did it take police so long to get there , unbelievable . The campaigner went in and out of the first mosque to his car like two times , shooting into street etc !! Back into his car driving off and still no police in sight .

This has been very heatedly discussed elsewhere online today.

It is a 2.9km drive from
Christchurch Central Police Station
40 Lichfield St, Christchurch Central, Christchurch 8011, New Zealand
to
Masjid Al Noor Mosque at
101 Deans Ave, Riccarton, Christchurch 8011, New Zealand

It's just over 2km walk between the 2 locations, if you go thru the park between them.

It was argued that traffic is really bad in that area and that could have caused lots of delays in Police getting there.
Plus that the time it takes from calls being taken and relayed to Police usually causes delays like those that were seen in the Police in getting to the scene.

That most people were being shot or running for their lives and not phoning for Police support.
Ignoring the fact that behind the Mosque was a residential area that you'd have thought would have had scores of people phoning the Police to report gunshots coming from the Mosque area, unless most of those residents were actually in the Mosque at the time of the shooting. (quite possible).

It was also pointed out that a media article quoted and named someone who was unable to reach Police on the phone to report the shooting, and ended up being put through to Ambulance Services. Which raised a question of whether the phone systems to Police were working ok.

I don't think it is unreasonable to have people questioning how Tarrant made it to the 2nd Mosque to start shooting without being intercepted by Police roadblocks.

 

[Tiges1229]

This has been very heatedly discussed elsewhere online today.

It is a 2.9km drive from
Christchurch Central Police Station
40 Lichfield St, Christchurch Central, Christchurch 8011, New Zealand
to
Masjid Al Noor Mosque at
101 Deans Ave, Riccarton, Christchurch 8011, New Zealand

It's just over 2km walk between the 2 locations, if you go thru the park between them.

It was argued that traffic is really bad in that area and that could have caused lots of delays in Police getting there.
Plus that the time it takes from calls being taken and relayed to Police usually causes delays like those that were seen in the Police in getting to the scene.

That most people were being shot or running for their lives and not phoning for Police support.
Ignoring the fact that behind the Mosque was a residential area that you'd have thought would have had scores of people phoning the Police to report gunshots coming from the Mosque area, unless most of those residents were actually in the Mosque at the time of the shooting. (quite possible).

It was also pointed out that a media article quoted and named someone who was unable to reach Police on the phone to report the shooting, and ended up being put through to Ambulance Services. Which raised a question of whether the phone systems to Police were working ok.

I don't think it is unreasonable to have people questioning how Tarrant made it to the 2nd Mosque to start shooting without being intercepted by Police roadblocks.

Something was obviously up because it took them forever .

 

[BFew]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/t...k/news-story/8e66a0962fa455e9378ba00340d319c9

Prime Minister Adern ..... revealed she had received an alert about Tarrant’s social media manifesto where he threatened the slaughter, nine minutes before his alleged actions and it was passed to parliamentary security within two minutes. “I was one of more than 30 recipients of the manifesto that was mailed out nine minutes before the attack took place,” she told reporters. “It did not include a location, it did not include specific details,” she said, adding that it was sent to security services within two minutes of receipt. “I reiterate, this was received by over 30 recipients nine minutes before guns were fired …

Within two minutes of its receipt it went to our Parliamentary security, but again, the advice we have from police is that actually by the timing of that email and the details being passed on they were already receiving emergency calls and responding.”

When Arden is quoted as saying "security services", is she referring to Parliamentary security officers, or whatever the equivalent of ASIO is in NZ?

So there was probably a situation where as the attack was unfolding, the scale of the attack and whether it was a simultaneous multiple location attack was unknown.

The Police and Security Services and others upon reading some of the manifesto just prior to or during the incident taking place would have been extremely concerned that there might have been more than guns planned for the attack, and that Police might be in grave danger if more than guns was involved.

This might have been a reason for what some consider to be a delayed Police response (up for debate) in their failure to at least have tried to ram Tarrant off the road, shoot out his tyres, roadblock him etc, before he reached the 2nd Mosque it is alleged he attacked on Friday.

 

[BFew]

https://www.news.com.au/world/insid...n/news-story/5d1db62e291dee456e06d10a31faead0

News.com.au exclusively revealed that Dunedin Police had dismissed reports that gun enthusiasts, including Brenton Tarrant, were discussing disturbing subjects at the rifle club Pete Breidahl, a former military machine gunner, told stuff.co.nz he visited the clubthree times and heard members talking about mass shootings, the zombie apocalypse and Martin Bryant, who carried out the 1996 Port Arthur massacre. Concerned the club was a potential incubator for a mass shooter, he lodged a formal complaint with the Dunedin police station arms officer, but was told officers were aware of the club and not worried about it. “The conversations I had and the people I met literally terrified me to my core,” Mr Breidahl said.

Sounds like NZ needs to consider introducing mandatory reporting laws for Police Officers/Administrators to report complaints from members of the public about individuals or groups at gun clubs to the Special Investigators, or a domestic anti-terrorism unit, for them to do mandatory investigations and surveillance of those reported to them.

Just a small price to pay for those that want to retain the privilege of being allowed to own, buy/sell, handle or shoot guns.

 

[BlueE]

This has been very heatedly discussed elsewhere online today.

It is a 2.9km drive from
Christchurch Central Police Station
40 Lichfield St, Christchurch Central, Christchurch 8011, New Zealand
to
Masjid Al Noor Mosque at
101 Deans Ave, Riccarton, Christchurch 8011, New Zealand

It's just over 2km walk between the 2 locations, if you go thru the park between them.

It was argued that traffic is really bad in that area and that could have caused lots of delays in Police getting there.
Plus that the time it takes from calls being taken and relayed to Police usually causes delays like those that were seen in the Police in getting to the scene.

That most people were being shot or running for their lives and not phoning for Police support.
Ignoring the fact that behind the Mosque was a residential area that you'd have thought would have had scores of people phoning the Police to report gunshots coming from the Mosque area, unless most of those residents were actually in the Mosque at the time of the shooting. (quite possible).

It was also pointed out that a media article quoted and named someone who was unable to reach Police on the phone to report the shooting, and ended up being put through to Ambulance Services. Which raised a question of whether the phone systems to Police were working ok.

I don't think it is unreasonable to have people questioning how Tarrant made it to the 2nd Mosque to start shooting without being intercepted by Police roadblocks.

He spent 6 minutes at the first mosque before leaving! He drove around 5 km to the second mosques and spent a couple of minutes shooting before going to his car to get another gun and being confronted by one of the men who had picked up a discarded gun but it was out of ammunition. So the man threw the gun at his windscreen breaking it and the coward dwarf drove off swearing. He was intercepted by police who rammed his car a short distance away and bravely dragged him out and arrested him.

So in around 17 minutes after the first shooting started the brainwashed coward was arrested. I don't know how anyone can say the cops were at any blame at all in this situation.

How did he manage to kill over 40 people in around 6 minutes and approximately 10 or so others in 2 minutes?

He had weapons of mass destruction, legally obtained. That's where NZ should be looking.

How did he pay for his many trips overseas in the last few years?

Why was he giving he Illuminati 666 signal in court?

Brainwashed by fake heros for their own means and cheered on by the equally brainwashed bullies on 8 chan.

 

[BFew]

More details on the response that a former military machine gunner got from Dunedin Police when he reported Tarrant and others at the rifle club.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/11...illers-accused-christchurch-shooters-gun-club

Breidahl, a long range shooting instructor who owns a hunting business, told Stuff on Saturday he was "heartbroken" by the terror attack in Christchurch. While living in Dunedin, he said he went to the Bruce Rifle Club three times. The first two visits were to check the range out and zero a rifle. The third, in November, 2017, was a military shoot day. "The conversations I had and the people I met literally terrified me to my core and I left early. "The place just stunk of inadequacy compensated through use and ownership of semi automatic firearms. It was pretty f...ing disturbing." He said he went to the Dunedin Police Station not long after and lodged a formal complaint with the arms officer. "I was advised they were well aware of the Bruce Rifle Club - 'they're just a bunch of silly old duffers, that's just what they're like down there, they're a bit funny but it's nothing to worry about'."

Bruce Rifle Club vice president Scott Williams said he strongly denied Breidahl's allegations, but said the club would carry out a review of its culture. Any talk of zombies may have "been in jest" and those involved in the conversation might have been "watching Walking Dead on TV".
"We certainly don't breed any mass killers."

A police spokeswoman said initial inquiries showed no record of Breidahl's complaint, but "we are looking into the claims further"

About time they took shooting off the list of Olympic sports.

 

[BFew]

in around 17 minutes after the first shooting started the brainwashed coward was arrested. I don't know how anyone can say the cops were at any blame at all in this situation.

Your 17 minutes versus the 36 minutes reported in the NZ media from info they got from NZ Police, is causing all sorts of issues.

If it was 36 minutes from first shooting to arrest, why do you think it took that amount of time before it appears that Tarrant was first intercepted by NZ Law enforcement?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213441

Police believe Tarrant is responsible for Friday's Christchurch massacres — and allege he travelled between two packed mosques and gunned down 49 people. He was arrested 36 minutes after the initial attack at the Al Noor Mosque. Police Commissioner Mike Bush said Tarrant did not give himself up willingly when he was found.

Edit: And I am not blaming the Police.
Just asking questions.
IMO, way too many posters in the forums getting pananoid that ppl are blaming "Police" or accusing others of blaming Police for what happened.

 

[BlueE]

Anyone suggesting cops could have responded any quicker have no idea. Started shooting at Al Noor Mosque on Deans Avenue, Riccarton, at around 1:40 p.m. Shooting lasted 6 minutes before he drove away.

Around 5 km away Linwood Islamic Centre shooting started around 1.55 pm. From what I can tell it lasted 2 minutes before he was chased away by the worshiper as he went back to his car to get another gun.

He may have been another 5 km away and heading south as he'd planned another Mosque at Lincoln when cops rammed him on the move. So the time of 36 minutes could be correct but the shootings occurred in 17 min and he was on his way to his next target.

The shootings happened in less than 17 minutes, in two locations 5 km apart. Could cops have prevented that? flipping hell no! Coward allegedly shot a 3 year old running down the street and a woman begging for help who'd been wounded.

Brainwashed

Coward

Weapons of mass destruction.

Edit: f.k.n auto corrects to ruddy

 

[BFew]

The shootings happened in less than 17 minutes, in two locations 5 km apart. Could cops have prevented that? ruddy hell no!

Here's my summary of a NZ article with interactive timeline on what happened, where and when

https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2019/03/end-of-our-innocence/

1:30pm Friday prayers begin at Al Noor Mosque and Linwood Islamic Centre
1:33pm Alleged shooter starts live streaming to Facebook and starts driving from an Industrial area (Leslie Hills Drive)
1:40pm Alleged shooter arrives at Al Noor Mosque where he kills 41 and injures dozens
1:41pm Witness calls 111
1:46pm Alleged shooter drives in direction of Linwood Islamic Centre
1:49pm Alleged shooter's Facebook livestream cuts out
1:55pm Alleged shooter kills seven and wounds others at Linwood Islamic Centre
2:05pm Schools and business start to go into lockdown
2:17pm Police ram suspect's car and arrest him at gunpoint in Brougham St.

From this I can see where the 36-37 minutes comes from in when you take the time he starts shooting at the first Mosque 1:40-1:41pm, until the time his car is rammed at 2:17pm

BlueE, you claim that

in around 17 minutes after the first shooting started the brainwashed coward was arrested.

That would make his arrest at around 1:57pm? I assume you made a typo in your post where you claim this.

And yes, the shootings from 1st shot to last shot reportedly happened all within under 20 minutes.

Looks like he was on the run in his car after leaving the Linwood Islamic Centre, for up to 20 minutes.
So even if they had intercepted him 15-20 minutes earlier, all the shootings were apparently over by then.

 

[BFew]

Here's a very informative article from back in Aug 2018 about semi-auto firearms issues in NZ republished in the NZ media today (+ 250 comments from last year to the article)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10...-law-firearm-owners-frustrated-by-police?rm=m

 

[BFew]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/po...-christchurch-mosque-shootings-are-inevitable

The Tarrant case also raises questions about the huge Five Eye's electronic surveillance system, which is supposed to detect terrorism and other threats. Our own Government Communications Security Bureau is the fifth eye in that arrangement, which also includes the United States, Britain, Australia and Canada. The mosque shooting showed how little the US and its allies share intelligence on domestic terrorism threats, according to The Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...5b8d80a1e4f_story.html?utm_term=.af121c13225b

Sharing is caring!

In 2013 a law change permitted the Government Communications Security Bureau to monitor New Zealanders if national security issues are at stake, but the Security Intelligence Service and police are still the lead agencies for detecting and monitoring domestic threats.

an inquiry into how our various intelligence arms managed to miss Tarrant seems inevitable given the catastrophic consequences.

 

[BFew]

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1903/S00500/update-15-christchurch-terror-attack.htm

Sunday, 17 March 2019, 6:44 pm
Press Release: New Zealand Police
Police Commissioner Mike Bush

.....
There has been some speculation around the Police response times to the first attack on Deans Ave on Friday.
To clarify, Police received its first 111 call at 1.41pm.
The first armed Police unit was on scene at 1.47pm.
That’s six minutes to respond.
Within 10 minutes, our Armed Offenders Squad was on scene.
Within 36 minutes, a mobile offender was in custody.
I am very proud of the Police response to this terrible attack.

So Tarrant left the 1st Mosque to drive to the 2nd Mosque 1 minute before Police arrived.

 

[Badge666]

and got voted into power in, when was it, 1987 when Rabuka staged the coup? When I was in the Navy, I supervised a young woman of Indian decent who had fled Fiji with her family at that time. She told me that her father was one of the ones voted in and was set to be a minister.

She was smoking hot but trouble with a capital T. If I supervised 40 odd people, her and a young bloke were 85% of my work.

Oh you were in the Navy now were you,? Rear Admiral no doubt....Next thing you will be claiming you piloted the Apollo 13 Space mission.