Rumour Multiple GWS players are set to be suspended to start the 2025 season after distasteful costumes and skits from their post-season function

[SC_Power]

FWIW, I've worked at a venue that Carr has held shows at, and staff are notified beforehand of potentially offensive content and can withdraw their availability for the event if they want. (And same for any similar events.)

I suspect this is commonplace.

I wonder what happens at cinemas.
Some really disgusting movies out there. I assume staff get the choice to not work, I wouldn’t have a clue.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Would they have had this theme if WAGs had been present, and if not why not?

Of course not, it’s a boys footy boys day.
Have you ever been to a mad Monday or end of season footy trip?

 

[Sydney Kicker]

Yeah trying to work out how Whitfield goes as a slave owner and gets away with a fine

I wonder if a player went as a pokies addict and simulated committing suicide what sort of punishment would be handed out?

 

[T2B_]

This isn't completely true for "public figures". They are treated differently under the legal system in these types of matters. Additionally, they would almost definitely have "public morality" clauses in their contracts.

Shitty thing is the AFL picks and chooses the public morality thing.

You'd think gambling would be the antithesis of public morality, but...

 

[Bagger72]

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Straight to jail according to our newly appointed culture minister Andrew Dill-on

 

[Underarm]

I’ve been around a bit mate, what happens when 40 odd young men get together drinking will never surprise me. Seen and head of far far worse than what we are talking about here.

Which isn't okay. And when you have the opportunity to do something about it, you should.

 

[Jugada]

Even without knowing any specifics getting in shit for dressing up as the twin towers is insane

 

[Bagger72]

Which isn't okay. And when you have the opportunity to do something about it, you should.

Its 100% ok if they are not breaking the law and just dressing up making fools of themselves/.

 

[Rabish Binney]

Straight to jail according to our newly appointed culture minister Andrew Dill-on

What was the AFL’s stance on Stengle being found paro outside the nightclub?

Don’t recall Dangerfield getting fined due to lack of leadership??

 

[SC_Power]

We get you don't like gambling companies but this isn't about them,are you trying to see how many times you can mention them in this thread?

It’s a relevant talking point though, just because you might not like it in the discussion.

We are, by far, the highest per capita gambling population in the world.
The link from problem gambling to domestic violence is proven and accepted.
The AFL are inextricably linked and identified by gambling revenue.

We need the AFL to take this as seriously as the GWS event.

 

[HairyO]

We get you don't like gambling companies but this isn't about them,are you trying to see how many times you can mention them in this thread?

You dont see a little bit of hypocrisy with the AFL taking issue with players misbehaving while raking in billions of dollars from gambling addicts and having no issue with kids being bombarded with gambing ads?

 

[Toump Ass]

Can someone remind me what was Tyson Stengle's punishment for ingesting drugs and passing out in a nightclub?

Going a bit too hard in the disco isn't very flattering but it's also not particularly offensive. On the other hand, simulating a sexual assault with a blow up doll is actually just a little bit offensive.

Do you see the difference?

 

[Underarm]

Its 100% ok if they are not breaking the law and just dressing up making fools of themselves/.

They're not making fun of themselves. They're making fun of victims of sexual abuse.

 

[Kappa]

Going a bit too hard in the disco isn't very flattering but it's also not particularly offensive. On the other hand, simulating a sexual assault with a blow up doll is actually just a little bit offensive.

Do you see the difference?

Isn't one illegal and the other one legal? Do you see the difference? Or do we punish legal acts more than illegal ones?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

They're not making fun of themselves. They're making fun of victims of sexual abuse.

Nope they are just some lads having some fun. I know you disagree but it’s just fun mate.

 

[Kappa]

You'd think gambling would be the antithesis of public morality, but...

The AFL only care about morals when they might hurt their bottom line. Which is exactly the same as every major corporation, woke hypocrites.

 

[btdg]

Nope it’s still on the person who is offended. If you are one of them that is then that’s on you to deal with it. Just because you get offended by something doesn’t mean the whole world should get offended by it.
You got 40 odd young men all together, none of them were offended or cared. Why then is it others who care? 40 players is a big number of people not to care or find it offensive.

It's not about someone taking 'offence'.

It's that your actions reveal your character, and that every organisation has behavioural standards and expectations. The AFL isn't alone in this.

Dressing up as a rapist and simulating a rape on a sex doll? That's just plain wrong. You would cop the full brunt of the boss's wrath for doing that in any decent workplace, and any decent bloke would call out a friend for doing that in private, too.

We don't know the full details but most of the other incidents reveal some pretty ordinary thinking and character too, and certainly inappropriate for the workplace:

• joking about 9/11 and simulating the attacks that caused the deaths of thousands of people? That's pretty bad
• re-enacting a movie about slavery with a black team-mate? My god.. that's just indefensible

That's appalling behaviour amongst friends, colleagues or anywhere and the fact that the GWS leadership group sat through it and let it roll on... sheesh.

Let alone that this is a public industry, where image is everything, and an industry where concerns about both sexual violence and treatment of people with colour have a pretty big history too...

It's an all-time 'what on earth were they thinking' situation and the fact that the Giants and their administrators have copped the penalties and committed to internal action as well is at least a start

IF there's any criticism possible for the AFL here it is that they appear to have issued the harshest sanctions on fringe players (including a guy who has been delisted) and not on some of the senior players who were involved as well

 

[Vice]

Favourite part of these type of stories is seeing the same handful of people comment incessantly, from dawn to dusk, about woke culture, virtue signalling...take your pick of buzz words spoken only online because you're damn sure they've never spoken to anyone irl about it.

 

[sherb]

Nope it’s still on the person who is offended. If you are one of them that is then that’s on you to deal with it. Just because you get offended by something doesn’t mean the whole world should get offended by it.
You got 40 odd young men all together, none of them were offended or cared. Why then is it others who care? 40 players is a big number of people not to care or find it offensive.

Where do you draw the line though? At what level of behaviour does it become not the onus of the offended person to "deal with it" and rather the onus of the offending person not to behave that way?

Eg should a disabled person "deal with it" if someone were to mock his disability? Or is the onus on the person doing the mocking?

You are entering very subjective territory here with this argument.

 

[Underarm]

Nope they are just some lads having some fun. I know you disagree but it’s just fun mate.

Just so we're clear, re-enacting rape is fun?

Just making sure you're clear which side you're on.

 

[andy_20]

How about we take them at their word instead of reflexively disregarding the views of women?

Do better.

I'll keep doing life the way have

 

[captainMyCaptain]

This is wild but good to see the bar has been outed

 

[greatwhiteshark]

It's not about someone taking 'offence'.

It's that your actions reveal your character, and that every organisation has behavioural standards and expectations. The AFL isn't alone in this.

Dressing up as a rapist and simulating a rape on a sex doll? That's just plain wrong. You would cop the full brunt of the boss's wrath for doing that in any decent workplace, and any decent bloke would call out a friend for doing that in private, too.

We don't know the full details but most of the other incidents reveal some pretty ordinary thinking and character too, and certainly inappropriate for the workplace:

• joking about 9/11 and simulating the attacks that caused the deaths of thousands of people? That's pretty bad
• re-enacting a movie about slavery with a black team-mate? My god.. that's just indefensible

That's appalling behaviour amongst friends, colleagues or anywhere and the fact that the GWS leadership group sat through it and let it roll on... sheesh.

Let alone that this is a public industry, where image is everything, and an industry where concerns about both sexual violence and treatment of people with colour have a pretty big history too...

It's an all-time 'what on earth were they thinking' situation and the fact that the Giants and their administrators have copped the penalties and committed to internal action as well is at least a start

IF there's any criticism possible for the AFL here it is that they appear to have issued the harshest sanctions on fringe players (including a guy who has been delisted) and not on some of the senior players who were involved as well

I can guarantee you 100% that every single club in the AFL and I mean the players here think it’s fine which means we are all supporting a sporting league where all the participants Are of very poor character and not worthy of our support.

 

[CollingwoodBoots]

Nope they are just some lads having some fun. I know you disagree but it’s just fun mate.

Lads having fun just doesn’t cut it anymore. 1 woman dies on average at the hands of their partner per week in Australia. These foundational behaviours need to be called out and ended.

 

[sherb]

You dont see a little bit of hypocrisy with the AFL taking issue with players misbehaving while raking in billions of dollars from gambling addicts and having no issue with kids being bombarded with gambing ads?

Yep, selective morality from the "moral police" (ie the AFL) is a terrible look, particularly when you can easily argue that their inaction on gambling is because it would affect their bottom line.