My 2017 team

[doona]

Some good points
What do you (and everyone) reckon will be the cutoff average for D6, M8, R2, F6 at the end of the season
For a quick guess i'd say
D6: 95
M8: 100
R2: 98
F6: 93

It is hard to say I mean the master had pittard and Rich at the end, so you never have all the top players.

Would say most peoples F6 & D6 will be lower then that. I mean it wouldn't surprise me if there are not 6 forwards over 93 in the whole game this year

 

[go you pups]

I'm not a fan of Boyd this year. I think he'll get plenty of games off like he did in 2015. Last year he played a lot because he had to. He's also under an injury cloud, though should play.

Spot on, no Wood, Suckling and JJ for extended periods and obviously Murphy meant Boyd and Biggs were crucial for us all year. Can't see him going interstate all the time for example.

Devon Smith seems to have had his DT friendly game usurped by Toby Greene.

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Definitely, potentially Stevie J also takes points away from Smith.

 

[WCE1987]

I'm not a fan of Boyd this year. I think he'll get plenty of games off like he did in 2015. Last year he played a lot because he had to. He's also under an injury cloud, though should play.

The midfield is too light on. Six rookies is too much considering I don't think those Adelaide boys will get a run. You need one or both of O'Meara and Swallow in my opinion.

Devon Smith seems to have had his DT friendly game usurped by Toby Greene.


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Cheers can swap boyd to laird. I'm mainly just playing to win one league, but will see where I can get them in with money. Would probably need to down grade devon smith.

 

[happy_eagle]

happy_eagle I think I didn't respond to the jones argument and I think that Jones has 100% job security. My concern with him is he will play a week in the mids and get a ton, then a couple of weeks back and get 50's. I think that Heeney out he will have a higher scoring potential to when Heeney comes back in. With our injuries he has an opportunity to turn into a true mid and through performances force his way in.

Like my last post, the question is more Lloyd v jones + 170K. Lloyd wont cost me a trade, where as Jones most likely will.

I am actually curious to know if there are many players that turn a 50 average into a 90 average in one season? As most players have a few steps in between.

And thats the risk with Jones (his role in the side, and his lack of fantasy relevance up until now)
If I were to go with him, I wouldn't be expecting him to be a keeper, nobody should.
It all comes down to opportunity cost. Whatever I have to sacrifice to get Lloyd instead of Jones or Mills has to be worth my own justification. On the same front whatever I lose from choosing the cheaper option in Jones, I should be able to make it up elsewhere. Everyone is working with the same salary cap.

So often DT selection doesn't always reflect just one players worth against another in the same position, its combination arguments. Like right now If I were looking at filling my D4 spot, I would look at my F4 spot at the same time and consider
Lloyd and Taranto
or
Mills and Nankervis
or
Jones and T.Miller

So whilst the gap between Lloyd and Jones might be large, the gap between Taranto and Miller is probably larger (hypothetical argument, I am not looking at Miller). By the same token whilst Jones will require a trade at some point, so will Taranto.

Interesting discussion point none the less

 

[doona]

And thats the risk with Jones (his role in the side, and his lack of fantasy relevance up until now)
If I were to go with him, I wouldn't be expecting him to be a keeper, nobody should.
It all comes down to opportunity cost. Whatever I have to sacrifice to get Lloyd instead of Jones or Mills has to be worth my own justification. On the same front whatever I lose from choosing the cheaper option in Jones, I should be able to make it up elsewhere. Everyone is working with the same salary cap.

So often DT selection doesn't always reflect just one players worth against another in the same position, its combination arguments. Like right now If I were looking at filling my D4 spot, I would look at my F4 spot at the same time and consider
Lloyd and Taranto
or
Mills and Nankervis
or
Jones and T.Miller

So whilst the gap between Lloyd and Jones might be large, the gap between Taranto and Miller is probably larger (hypothetical argument, I am not looking at Miller). By the same token whilst Jones will require a trade at some point, so will Taranto.

Interesting discussion point none the less

But Lloyd, Taranto you get a keeper and a cash cow. Jones and Miller you could potentially have 2 players you need to trade. It is the classic rook and premo verse midpricer argument I guess. Last year I went to mid priced at the start (S. Gray, N. Graham, Sheridan, etc..) but managed to trade myself out of it to finish high in the rankings. This year I am being more strict in my selections. In hindsight I would have gone more Guns and Rooks despite juicey midpricers.

 

[Slipps]

Pretty set just confirming rookies. Thoughts?View attachment 346721

I like josh kelly im thinking about him myself but boyd apparently had some type of injurie may have to wear a helmet i hear not to sure what the injurie was dont know if he is there round 1

 

[WCE1987]

I like josh kelly im thinking about him myself but boyd apparently had some type of injurie may have to wear a helmet i hear not to sure what the injurie was dont know if he is there round 1

With cogs out I think he is a good option this year

 

[Bandicoot]

I'll attack you in a different way... you've called them 'final DT team' do you know what the word 'final' means?


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Thought behind the term final being
I am not changing it again till season STARTS. Well, that's the hope anyway.

 

[go you pups]

With cogs out I think he is a good option this year

Good Fantasy pick, but every chance he has a Brad Ebertesque mid season fizzle out once the injured blokes return

 

[doona]

Good Fantasy pick, but every chance he has a Brad Ebertesque mid season fizzle out once the injured blokes return

500K+ has to be a keeper. I cant see him being in the final midfield of a good team.

 

[WCE1987]

Good Fantasy pick, but every chance he has a Brad Ebertesque mid season fizzle out once the injured blokes return

I think he is worth the trade risk atleast until byes, if it's a bust I'll sideways trade. He ain't going to go down in price

 

[Benjodt]

For those that are picking Crouch, what are you guys expecting him to avg? Are low 100s enough to justify his position in a season ending team with a start price of 560k?

 

[go you pups]

For those that are picking Crouch, what are you guys expecting him to avg? Are low 100s enough to justify his position in a season ending team with a start price of 560k?

105

And yes, should be a rock solid M6-8 by seasons end.

I feel he's well ahead of Thompson now and surely Adelaide persists with him as their major ball winner helping out Sloane, look at his form from R11-SF last year also.

 

[Pea Nut]

105

And yes, should be a rock solid M6-8 by seasons end.

I feel he's well ahead of Thompson now and surely Adelaide persists with him as their major ball winner helping out Sloane, look at his form from R11-SF last year also.

One thing I think worth mentioning on that, is that Matt's scoring in the back half of last year also aligns with his brother finding his groove at AFL level again after his injuries and injury interrupted pre-season. Brad has also had an injury interrupted pre-season this year. This is the only concern I have. I think Matt is much better with Brad in the side.

 

[Pea Nut]

Asking this here is probably as good as anywhere. Who knows whether once the Thursday night game starts, if other players in your league can see your team ?? And is there still unlimited trades on the Friday as long as it doesn't involve Richmond or Carlton players ?? I assume that there is.

 

[go you pups]

One thing I think worth mentioning on that, is that Matt's scoring in the back half of last year also aligns with his brother finding his groove at AFL level again after his injuries and injury interrupted pre-season. Brad has also had an injury interrupted pre-season this year. This is the only concern I have. I think Matt is much better with Brad in the side.

You sure it was Brad coming back though?

IIRC Thompson started well last year then was ok but not great in regards to scores once Matt got on a roll, imo it suggests Matt got more midfield minutes and became more influential as the year went on, while Thommo may have had a little bit of time taken away from the guts in order to progress Matt.

Wait and see I guess, but Matt has put up solid JLT scores even with your injuries so far.

 

[Whos_Your_Caddy]

Asking this here is probably as good as anywhere. Who knows whether once the Thursday night game starts, if other players in your league can see your team ?? And is there still unlimited trades on the Friday as long as it doesn't involve Richmond or Carlton players ?? I assume that there is.

From memory last year you couldn't see other peoples teams until the 1st rd was over.

 

[go you pups]

Sloane was dominant also from about R7-8 onwards (Crouch R11 onwards).

Seems the right mix was found eventually

 

[go you pups]

Asking this here is probably as good as anywhere. Who knows whether once the Thursday night game starts, if other players in your league can see your team ?? And is there still unlimited trades on the Friday as long as it doesn't involve Richmond or Carlton players ?? I assume that there is.

From memory last year you couldn't see other peoples teams until the 1st rd was over.

There has regularly been Monday games in R1, so during these games normally we can.

Not sure now though if we can sometime on the Sunday, might be after lockout we can.

 

[CJApples87]

One thing I think worth mentioning on that, is that Matt's scoring in the back half of last year also aligns with his brother finding his groove at AFL level again after his injuries and injury interrupted pre-season. Brad has also had an injury interrupted pre-season this year. This is the only concern I have. I think Matt is much better with Brad in the side.

Matt's first four games after Brad came back were 126, 80, 75 and 84. He then went on his really good run after that. I don't think Brad being in the side had much to do with it.


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[Bandicoot]

Asking this here is probably as good as anywhere. Who knows whether once the Thursday night game starts, if other players in your league can see your team ?? And is there still unlimited trades on the Friday as long as it doesn't involve Richmond or Carlton players ?? I assume that there is.

Not 100% sure if we can see the other teams from Thursday or not but I can guarantee that we have a rolling lockout right through till the final game on Sunday.

 

[Bandicoot]

Not 100% sure if we can see the other teams from Thursday or not but I can guarantee that we have a rolling lockout right through till the final game on Sunday.

Elaborating on what I said above, any changes made during round 1 will not come off our 30 trades.

 

[Coinz]

Hall or Zorko?

 

[happy_eagle]

Think I have talked myself into going Martin + Sandilands and Nankervis at R4

Outside of the games he played with Trent West (58, 44, 81, 61) and Archie Smith (66) and the game where he got concussed in the 2nd quarter (56) Stef Martins average last year was 101. Grundy and Gawn might average 105, and despite Martins risk, I can't see that being worth 80-120k extra. Only issue is if Archie Smith plays, but i'm not totally convinced that Martins issues last year were totally about a second ruck.

Sandilands is priced at 55, and could just about get that in hit-outs alone. The plan is hopefully for Gawns price to go down if he plays with Spencer early on (looks that way) and make Sandi one of my first upgrades. Sandilands managed to play 21 and 20 games back in 2014 and 2015

Nankervis at F4 fits into my structure nicely. There is literally no players of interest between Taranto ($211,000) and Nankervis ($366,600) that justify their price tag. The only option is to find 60k somewhere and go Nankervis to Steele but i'm not convinced that Steele will be a keeper. Also has the benefit of providing backup to Sandilands, and a potential F7 with DPP to the Rucks for the whole season.

 

[Schulzenfest]

That is literally my exact current ruck set up, down to 'Nankervis at F4' and everything. Cameron on your bench too?