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The implication from the commentary was that he just wasn't coming off, and that Beams was also getting very restless at the interchange gate, calling him in.
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Review Nab Cup 2013 Grand Final: Brisbane Versus Carlton: Review
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Someone needs to use this Gif
And make it into this gif
And make it into this gif
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Totally have to Gif this.
Congratulations on that win...and i hope you do it again to those scumbags in the season proper...
Just a question on your team list for the game...how many ruckmen did you play..?!...
Just a question on your team list for the game...how many ruckmen did you play..?!...
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That's brilliant.
Any chance you could create a short gif of Yeo's ball pick up and 360 to spin out of trouble? I've been trying, but it doesn't work out.
Find me the time it happened during the game and I shall do this.
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Reckon you should GIF the stare-down to the ump as well. Menacing.
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Im currently "Acquiring" the game, so that I can start finding the good bits to GIF, means I have to watch it again, what a shame
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Shame indeed. Both of those moments were in the 2nd quarter.Im currently "Acquiring" the game, so that I can start finding the good bits to GIF, means I have to watch it again, what a shame
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Righto, will see what I can do!
They would be having a very serious chat with him if that were the case.
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The mark is at 16.34, and the stroppy look is around 21.40. Such an animated face.
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As much as Vossy's glory days are behind him, I'd hate for him to be having a "serious chat" with me.
Although I'd have LOVED to have been a fly on the wall when Micky let loose at the carlton boys!
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Cheers, Quarter 2 yeah? Ill make them soon as its finished acquiring the videos.
Certainly there would be an element of that, and I for one don't tend to yell at the umpire for letting one of ours go.
Given my pre-emptive expectation for over zealous umpiring I do tend to watch what our boys do with the hope they don't give anything away. I cringe when they infringe and if we are not penalised, I recognise it as "lucky to get away with that" and that, "that was silly".
So I am not blind to our indiscretions, whether we get away with it or not. What I am saying is that in some games (Friday night was one)
I noticeably find myself calling foul for not receiving a free moreso than thinking "gee we were lucky to get away with that". Like I said, I am more concerned with the ones not paid to us rather than those paid against.
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I wasn't there so I don't know when they called for him to come off, but from when the commentators flagged the issues I didn't see a runner anywhere near Ace cos the ball was locked into the forward 35 for about 3-4 minutes.. which would've seemed like an eternity to Beams & Voss on the sidelines, but a mere series of moments to the guys in the hot zone.
I assume if Ace was ignoring the call to come off though a runner had already spoken to him? Is it visible anywhere on the footage?
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Just some post-nab thoughts on selection...
Think Yeo, Beams, Karnezis, Bewick and Green have basically demanded a round 1 spot. Bewick. Green and Karnezis in particular have been brilliant. Thats the great news.
Not so clear cut for the big guys though Longer in his current form is going close to being undroppable. Think its clear what we're going to get with Martin, a big bodied competitor who has skills but will totally stuff it up every 3rd time he does something. Think Cornelius built himself enough credit to get another shot at redemption but geez he's on the line.
One player who I don't think could of done much more to play himself out of the team is Polkinghorne. Our defence is shaping up as one of the best in the league and he's not needed down there. As a foward apart from one nice goal he just seemed to get in Browny's way. And through the midfield he was deplorable. Too many chains of handballs ended with Polkinghorne having a spas out and handballing to no-one. He can't handle the speed of the game in the midfield, just can't. And as a foward he's the same size as McGrath who is twcie as dangerous and knows how to keep out of the big guys way. Has to go.
And on form you'd have to think Beams gets a start over Raines.
Think Yeo, Beams, Karnezis, Bewick and Green have basically demanded a round 1 spot. Bewick. Green and Karnezis in particular have been brilliant. Thats the great news.
Not so clear cut for the big guys though Longer in his current form is going close to being undroppable. Think its clear what we're going to get with Martin, a big bodied competitor who has skills but will totally stuff it up every 3rd time he does something. Think Cornelius built himself enough credit to get another shot at redemption but geez he's on the line.
One player who I don't think could of done much more to play himself out of the team is Polkinghorne. Our defence is shaping up as one of the best in the league and he's not needed down there. As a foward apart from one nice goal he just seemed to get in Browny's way. And through the midfield he was deplorable. Too many chains of handballs ended with Polkinghorne having a spas out and handballing to no-one. He can't handle the speed of the game in the midfield, just can't. And as a foward he's the same size as McGrath who is twcie as dangerous and knows how to keep out of the big guys way. Has to go.
And on form you'd have to think Beams gets a start over Raines.
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Whole post great stuff.
The bolded patch is so true mate could not have posted it better myself.
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The thing about Polk is that he seems to provide 1 or 2 goals a game and he is versatile which Voss favours. It's also hard to trade a 100 gamer for a <20 gamer. Because there is something to be said for experience in a rather young side.
Despite that, when I think of Polks role, which is a defensive big bodied forward who rotates through the midfield I wonder if Beams gets a spot over Polk?
No his isn't big bodied but he can certainly rotate through the midfield effectively and is a stronger forward that Polk is, in my opinion.
Beams and Raines' roles are too different, who offers the hard tag if Raines isn't in the team? We tried to do it with Redden during the night final and it didn't work, lost too much Redden.
If Beams can play the hard tag and still drop off his man to hurt the opposition when going the other way then I wouldn't object to him replacing Raines. However, I really am not sure he can play that shutdown role as well as Raines can. And as discussed in the 2013 thread.. the hard tagger is a valuable and pretty niche role to play effectively - which we know Raines is already good at and was starting to hurt teams going the other way at the end of last year.
It's a lovely problem to have quite frankly.
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Beams tagging display on Moloney Rd1 last season was worthy of a Rising star nom got loose and found plenty of the ball from memory.
I think he could easily get to Stormboys tagging level if given an extened run at the job.
I think he could easily get to Stormboys tagging level if given an extened run at the job.
One of the big things to come out of the final seems to have been Redden taking on what I call to be a soft tag, which obviously had a negative effect on his stats. However, we also won the clearances for the first time in ages and against what is considered a strong midfield group (albeit with Judd underdone).
The question is can Redden play the same role as last year with Moloney in the team? I don't know the answer, however based on that one off game - the midfield as a group was the most damaging in a long time.
The question is can Redden play the same role as last year with Moloney in the team? I don't know the answer, however based on that one off game - the midfield as a group was the most damaging in a long time.
Starting to feel more optimistic about that tough run we have from round 6 to 14.
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One thing we've learnt over the last few years is that the coaches love Polks, probably for the things we as supporters don't always see or appreciate. Although Beams was impressive when he came on, the fact Is that Polks is ahead of him and probably Did enough on Sat to stay there for the first game at least. Doc will be the other who will miss. I don't see much else changing at this stage.
Agree. Whilst there is obviously enough faults with Polks to draw plenty of criticism, when it come to the youngsters we need to be careful of overestimating or overstating their ability and functionability in the team. No doubt Beams is a potential gun and has done some really good things, but he just doesn't have the runs on the board. Yes he had a blinder against Melbourne in round 1 last year, but let's face it, it was Melbourne. We are yet to see how he goes against a string of tough competition and how consistantly well he can play.
I know, it will be argued that we can only do that by playing him which is true, but the balance of the team must come first. We can't continually top up the team with young guns to the point of saturation. The old heads must provide balance, guys who have felt all the pressures of far superior opposition and team form slumps. We are getting closer I think to start demanding more of Polk's with threat of being dropped, but for now I think he is important to the team structure and balance particularly from an experience point of view.
Also don't forget that over the next 2-3 years we stand to lose a lot of experience.
Edit: None of that is a knock on Beams and I'm sure he will get a go round 1. Just used him as one example of the youth being pumped up.
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