Nat Wars; The Beetrooter Strikes Back (An $80m production)

[Gough]

It's possible that in time people will see the return of Joyce as DPM as the moment this government lost the people. It doesn't take a genius to see that an unhinged user should be nowhere the pointy end of government and he demonstrates this in the media every day.

 

[western royboy]

It's possible that in time people will see the return of Joyce as DPM as the moment this government lost the people. It doesn't take a genius to see that an unhinged user should be nowhere the pointy end of government and he demonstrates this in the media every day.

Australia’s best “retail politician” apparently

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

It's possible that in time people will see the return of Joyce as DPM as the moment this government lost the people. It doesn't take a genius to see that an unhinged user should be nowhere the pointy end of government and he demonstrates this in the media every day.

I don’t want to cause fault lines but WTF is wrong with a sizeable number of the women of Australia that they would still vote for the Coalition in spite of everything we’ve learned about their respect for women?

In a sane Australia not one single woman would vote Coalition.

 

[Christopher Buttersnip]

I guess the fact that this barely literate changeling can make it to Dep PM shows anyone can make it. Also, a failed corporate exec with no moral compass or probity can make it to PM.

 

[OnTheRocks]

I guess the fact that this barely literate changeling can make it to Dep PM shows anyone can make it. Also, a failed corporate exec with no moral compass or probity can make it to PM.

 

[QuietB]

I don’t want to cause fault lines but WTF is wrong with a sizeable number of the women of Australia that they would still vote for the Coalition in spite of everything we’ve learned about their respect for women?

In a sane Australia not one single woman would vote Coalition.

We live in a country where a woman - Pauline Hansen - advocates for men’s rights despite everything happening all around her.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I don’t want to cause fault lines but WTF is wrong with a sizeable number of the women of Australia that they would still vote for the Coalition in spite of everything we’ve learned about their respect for women?

In a sane Australia not one single woman would vote Coalition.

Many women, particularly in older generations, don't want other women to have rights. Society has given them internalised misogyny.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

We live in a country where a woman - Pauline Hansen - advocates for men’s rights despite everything happening all around her.

Well, yes, when you put it like that.

 

[cartwright]

There’s a lot of disengaged people, who only watch the nightly news - if that.

I’ve heard people make comments like “….Shorten, or whoever the prime minister is…”

 

[Gough]

Only in the National Party can Darren Chester be seen as the voice of reason. In a functioning party he would be pointed at and mocked but considering the make up of the Nats he's seen as some sort of ideal.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Only in the National Party can Darren Chester be seen as the voice of reason. In a functioning party he would be pointed at and mocked but considering the make up of the Nats he's seen as some sort of ideal.

To be fair, I've seen very few Liberal or Labor politicians say "we misled the people and I'm sorry for my part in it".

 

[Christopher Buttersnip]

Darren Chester is the last of the honorable Nats. The rest are tinfoil hatters.

 

[Gough]

Regional grants given to cities: report

Damning new analysis from the auditor-general has revealed more than half of the federal government grants for regional development were given to projects in major cities.

www.news.com.au

How's he sticking up for the regions here?

 

[E Shed]

Did Cosplay Canavan really assert the only reason NFF are urging net zero is so their leaders still get invited to the right parties in Sydney?

Seriously? He’s calling the farmers union out of touch elites as opposed to the real regional battlers, presumably the owners of coal mines, like his brother?

At what point do people just start laughing & calling bullshit on idiots like him? Although I suppose if Craig Kelly still has an audience Matt has a way to go yet.

The Nationals’ climate position has become symbolic posturing and no longer represents Australian farmers | Clive Hamilton

The party line of the bush ‘footing the bill’ for the nation’s emissions reduction is a false narrative

www.theguardian.com

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[Christopher Buttersnip]

These grossly over-represented warts on the bum of politics are a pharking obscenity. And the Hollow Man is a corrupt, venal accomplice to their extortion.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

These grossly over-represented warts on the bum of politics are a pharking obscenity. And the Hollow Man is a corrupt, venal accomplice to their extortion.

The issue I have with this is Joyce said he didn't vote for net zero in the party room vote, even with the concessions. It appears he and his allies (the Member for Manila and Bridget McKenzie) have been outfoxed by Littleproud and Chester. I'm not saying it's a good deal, but if Joyce had his way, there wouldn't have been a deal at all.

 

[Pie eyed]

Morrison and Joyce will be out on their arses in short enough order.

Labor will set the actual targets, cancel the idiotic submarine deal and then get about bringing in "Truth in political advertising" laws which will shut Morrisons crew out for the foreseeable future.
Murdoch will hopefully die in the next term or two.
Labor can open up the free to air TV licenses to open tender by telemarketers, as there is absolutely nothing there to protect anymore.

 

[Christopher Buttersnip]

Seems to me she fits the intellect of the average Nat MP to a tee.

 

[western royboy]

Seems to me she fits the intellect of the average Nat MP to a tee.

Actually a really nice lady…but way out of her depth, particularly when forced to tread a line I’m sure she doesn’t agree with. Partisan hacks dominate all sides of the Parliament - the days of Parliament working together for the good or betterment of all finished long ago. Trump got elected on the basis of “draining the swamp”. In order to truly do so you need to purge the lobbyists and bureaucrats that lurk in the fringes

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Actually a really nice lady…but way out of her depth, particularly when forced to tread a line I’m sure she doesn’t agree with. Partisan hacks dominate all sides of the Parliament - the days of Parliament working together for the good or betterment of all finished long ago. Trump got elected on the basis of “draining the swamp”. In order to truly do so you need to purge the lobbyists and bureaucrats that lurk in the fringes

Yes and no. Lobbyists also include not for profits fighting for the disabled, local community groups, and seniors associations.

The issue with lobbying is transparency. A few basic measures could make big steps towards this:

1) every meeting and phone call a MP makes is available on a public register after 90 days. Those deemed sensitive on security grounds can be redacted, but this is make available to the appropriate senate oversight committees.

2) after leaving politics, a mp cannot take work related to their portfolio/s for three years

3) caps on contributions get removed, but every contribution to a party or a campaign over $1 must be disclosed. Breaching of this will be punished similar to embezzlement and like corruption.

4) all political parties must have a requirement that to be a member you must

a) provide photo ID to confirm your identity at your first meeting
b) all fees must be paid electronically in the name of the member
c) membership will be revoked if a member fails to attend more than 30% of branch meetings in person (or virtually) in a given year, unless the central branch approves a medical/difficulties exemption
d) party membership votes to be administered by the relevant state electoral Commission
e) only people can vote in a political party, not companies, unions, or any other entity

5) any mp or lobbyist or so on found guilty of illegal contributions or non disclosed meetings or party branch manipulation is prohibited from working in any public office, running for any level of govt nationally, and working for any organisation that bids for any level of govt work for 10 years

 

[western royboy]

Looking at the who, what, and why of lobbyists

They're everywhere in Canberra, but how much influence do lobbyists really have?

www.crikey.com.au

 

[daniologist]

Watched the second ep of this last night, and really enjoyed it. Of course, I hate the reality that it depicted.

https://help.abc.net.au/hc/en-us/articles/4406721518095-Christiaan-Van-Vuuren-finds-out-what-s-the-BIG-DEAL-with-Australia-s-democracy

 

[western royboy]

Watched the second ep of this last night, and really enjoyed it. Of course, I hate the reality that it depicted.

https://help.abc.net.au/hc/en-us/articles/4406721518095-Christiaan-Van-Vuuren-finds-out-what-s-the-BIG-DEAL-with-Australia-s-democracy

I worked in Management Consulting for a time…the wastage, rorting and corruption sickened me - all of it was attached to government funding

 

[NSWCROW]

" Merit " lol

 

[Christopher Buttersnip]

Bang! My admiration for Penny grows by the day.