Nathan Jones

[Enforcer25]

Jones for Dempsey seems more realistic.

and... if that's the best we can get, we'll keep him.

Dempsey is a waste of an AFL spot.

 

[Prem87]

Sydney will be licking their lips at the number of players that will be traded this year..surely they would be interested in Jones.

 

[Enforcer25]

Sydney will be licking their lips at the number of players that will be traded this year..surely they would be interested in Jones.

When you consider Sydney's earliest draft pick this year will be around 22 or later, they might need to send us a player instead.

Veszpremi?

I will not entertain a trade for LRT or Ted Richards!

 

[The Dr]

When you consider Sydney's earliest draft pick this year will be around 22 or later, they might need to send us a player instead.

Veszpremi?

I will not entertain a trade for LRT or Ted Richards!

I would love to somehow get Lewis Johnson off the Swans. I'd imagine we'd have to give up a fair bit though.

 

[Enforcer25]

I would love to somehow get Lewis Johnson off the Swans. I'd imagine we'd have to give up a fair bit though.

Not much exposed form.

I had a feeling Roos was talking about him when he wrote the article criticizing the draf system for churning out high draft picks who didn't have a real love for the game and a thirst to eat, sleep and breathe AFL footy.

 

[The Dr]

Not much exposed form.

I had a feeling Roos was talking about him when he wrote the article criticizing the draf system for churning out high draft picks who didn't have a real love for the game and a thirst to eat, sleep and breathe AFL footy.

Interesting hypothesis. I wonder if any of our Swans friends can shed some light on this?

The kid certainly has talent if his performances at under-18 levels are anything to go by. Sounds like he's a classic high risk-high reward type of player.

 

[swansfan51]

Interesting hypothesis. I wonder if any of our Swans friends can shed some light on this?

The kid certainly has talent if his performances at under-18 levels are anything to go by. Sounds like he's a classic high risk-high reward type of player.

He was almost certainly talking about Veszpremi, not Johnston.

 

[yaco55]

He was almost certainly talking about Veszpremi, not Johnston.

Think both players.

 

[LITTLE STINGA]

Jones for Dempsey seems more realistic.

I like Dempsey's pace and you can never have too much pace but realistically if we were to trade Jones or even Bate then you would want to trade them for a player that would walk straight into our side and Dempsey doesn't fit into that category, I would consider swaping him for Warnock but our major priority should be a ruckman\full forward.

 

[Punchy Demons]

We don't want or need Dempsey. We have enough small, mid sized players that can play down back in my opinion. If Jones was to be traded to Essendon you get an in and under midfielder that you actually require, so to palm of something (Dempsey) that we don't need wouldn't be smart business on our behalf!

You can keep him anyway. The only thing going for him is his pace. He is meant to be a backman but always plays 5 metres off an opponent, hence the reason he gets alot of goals kicked on him. He is a massive liability as a backman!

 

[PHX]

His intangible worth Melbourne is more than anything he is worth on the open market.

 

[Enforcer25]

His intangible worth Melbourne is more than anything he is worth on the open market.

Agreed.
Not sure what to do with him though.
It'd be a shame for him to rot on our list as a perpetual emergency.

 

[trossa]

Jones has plenty of upside, he's a bit unfairly maligned I think. I would take him at the Blues, but wouldn't pay what we paid for McLean last year, perhaps a pick around 30-40, which Melbourne would never accept.

 

[Enforcer25]

Would Port go for Jones, seeing as they are likely to lose Salopek?

Not exactly like-for-like, but Cornes will be gone soon too, so they might need a few new mids.

 

[Enforcer25]

Jones has plenty of upside, he's a bit unfairly maligned I think. I would take him at the Blues, but wouldn't pay what we paid for McLean last year, perhaps a pick around 30-40, which Melbourne would never accept.

If we ignore how much the blues overpaid for Brock, surely Jones is worth more at this stage..?

 

[Demon 16]

Back on topic.. Jones is a handy player with some improvement left. The only thing that Melbourne would give him up for is a quality young KPF or ruckman - or a pick upgrade that gets us access to Daniel Gorringe.

Whilst I think a few people on here are underating Jones, I don't think he'll get us what we want unless we throw pick 12 into the mix as well.

GC might be a chance to take Jones and pick 12 for pick 7 and a third round??

Can anyone else upgrade our pick 12?

 

[Pykie]

Back on topic, Jones would be a great addition for the Bombers. He would be their second best midfielder.

As maligned as Essendon's midfield is at the moment, I don't think so.

Prismall is ahead of Jones.


Unfortunately for Jones, in u/18's he built a reputation as a hard ball winner, with elite endurance.


At AFL level, it hasn't translated.


He isn't particuarly good at clearances, tackling, contested possessions, and averages under 20 possessions a game; that could be excused, but he has below average disposal.


Prismall also has a similar level of disposal by foot, but he has the advantage of averaging alot more clearances, tackles, contested possessions per game and averages close to 23 disposals a game.


In saying that, Jones would be an improvement on Hocking.



Howlett has a low profile atm, but I'd take him over Jones as well, he is better than both Prismall and Jones in most KPI's.

 

[FIGJAM]

At the risk of getting this thread on topic, I admire Jones as a player. Tough, wins lots of it and uses it fairly intelligently.

My main concern is peripheral vision. I don't think I have ever seen a player get run down more often holding the ball.

 

[citizen-erased]

i think jones will end up at essendon. have thought it a lot this year. been to about 6 dees matches and really liked the way he goes about it, but he isnt being used to the best of his ability. alongside watson (or even moloney) he'd be a very good asset to have. strong, very good under pressure and he is very good defensively. always reminded me of chappy.

if we had the depth of watson, jones, prismall, howlett, stanton, jetta, myers, and melksham, we'd have some positives to grow from. we'd still need an a-grade running mid (i.e we need to replace Lovett) but i think the lack of ability in our forward line has created a myth that our midfield isnt up to it. i think on the contrary we've got some very good young talent to work with. but they have very little to kick to.

 

[Spirit of 39]

i think jones will end up at essendon. have thought it a lot this year. been to about 6 dees matches and really liked the way he goes about it, but he isnt being used to the best of his ability. alongside watson (or even moloney) he'd be a very good asset to have. strong, very good under pressure and he is very good defensively. always reminded me of chappy.

if we had the depth of watson, jones, prismall, howlett, stanton, jetta, myers, and melksham, we'd have some positives to grow from. we'd still need an a-grade running mid (i.e we need to replace Lovett) but i think the lack of ability in our forward line has created a myth that our midfield isnt up to it. i think on the contrary we've got some very good young talent to work with. but they have very little to kick to.

And just how are you blokes going to make this happen??? Pick 8 probably would get it done.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

At the risk of getting this thread on topic, I admire Jones as a player. Tough, wins lots of it and uses it fairly intelligently.

My main concern is peripheral vision. I don't think I have ever seen a player get run down more often holding the ball.

Good assessment there Fig, can't fault that post at all

 

[citizen-erased]

And just how are you blokes going to make this happen??? Pick 8 probably would get it done.

not sure. just sayin ive been thinking he'd be a great fit all year and now the speculation about his willingness to stay with the dees seems to be timed right. of all the midfields going, we are the one that can offer him more chance of a regular spot.

i cant see the dons giving up pick 8 for him, or anyone really.

the thing is, i dont see any real need from melbournes point of view.
with a little more development, the list as a whole is impressive.
im not sure how much ruck depth there is after jamar and johnson, but both seem to have bodies that hold up and essendon doesnt have a lot to offer up in the way of potential rucks.
the dees backline is shaping as one of the leagues best and forward-wise we are in that much trouble i wouldnt be touting anyone.

 

[Spirit of 39]

not sure. just sayin ive been thinking he'd be a great fit all year and now the speculation about his willingness to stay with the dees seems to be timed right. of all the midfields going, we are the one that can offer him more chance of a regular spot.

i cant see the dons giving up pick 8 for him, or anyone really.

the thing is, i dont see any real need from melbournes point of view.
with a little more development, the list as a whole is impressive.
im not sure how much ruck depth there is after jamar and johnson, but both seem to have bodies that hold up and essendon doesnt have a lot to offer up in the way of potential rucks.
the dees backline is shaping as one of the leagues best and forward-wise we are in that much trouble i wouldnt be touting anyone.

Jonesy certainly would add something to your side. But he is a required player at Melbourne, so he wouldn't come cheap. I agree pick 8 is above the odds. But I just don't see what you would have that could satisfy us.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

I rate Winderlich but he's a wingman not a centreman like Jones which is what I thought the topic was on. Stanton and Lewis have to be the 2 most overrated clanger kings in the AFL by a long way.

I was comparing Stanton and Winderlich to Prismall, but I take your point re Winderlich. I disagree on Stanton and Lewis, but I think this thread is de-railed enough.

On topic, I think our 2nd rounder is probably a fair swap for Jones.

 

[Spirit of 39]

I was comparing Stanton and Winderlich to Prismall, but I take your point re Winderlich. I disagree on Stanton and Lewis, but I think this thread is de-railed enough.

On topic, I think our 2nd rounder is probably a fair swap for Jones.

Ordinarily, it probably would be. But this year it is very much a seller's market. If we were to contemplate trading Jonsey, we could definitely get over the odds for him. A speculative pick 30 something wouldn't get it done.