Player Watch Nathan Kreuger (Delisted 2024)

[nahnah]

Maybe but I reckon AJ is a freak.

thats not very nice

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

He will never be a replacement for Coxy or Cameron.

Never is a big statement.

I’m still not convinced we will have the luxury to run two rucks when everybody is fit and firing. If a key forward who can ruck is kicking multiple goals in the seconds, and the form of one of Cameron/cox slips marginally, then the pressure is on the selectors.

We haven’t even managed to slot mcstay in yet, not to mention getting DeGoey Sidebottom and Elliott back.

 

[BEEG]

Only way he gets in is injuries and he is more likely to be injured before those injuries come.

 

[No SPIN]

yes we are. we are dropping ginni or harrison for mcstay. almost a cert

We played McStay with AJ and Brodie with 3 smalls against Rich. BUT Cox didn’t play.
So that structure will remain -
So a tall will definitely go out not a small if we play 3 tall fwds.

 

[No SPIN]

Never is a big statement.

I’m still not convinced we will have the luxury to run two rucks when everybody is fit and firing. If a key forward who can ruck is kicking multiple goals in the seconds, and the form of one of Cameron/cox slips marginally, then the pressure is on the selectors.

We haven’t even managed to slot mcstay in yet, not to mention getting DeGoey Sidebottom and Elliott back.

Sadly Krueger can’t Ruck - he’s next to useless.

 

[No SPIN]

Even his marking looks a bit uncoordinated even though he marked a few

Agree - his awkwardness is an issue for me, he’s like a bull at a gate. He is often reckless in attempting impossible marks, that spoil opportunities or could cause potential injury for team mates.

 

[sam_e]

Never is a big statement.

I’m still not convinced we will have the luxury to run two rucks when everybody is fit and firing. If a key forward who can ruck is kicking multiple goals in the seconds, and the form of one of Cameron/cox slips marginally, then the pressure is on the selectors.

We haven’t even managed to slot mcstay in yet, not to mention getting DeGoey Sidebottom and Elliott back.

the value of the 2-ruck combo is in their pure rucking, around the ground follow-up, goals (& contested work) as KPF and, importantly, contested marking around the ground.

this needs to be the benchmark when you're comparing the 2-ruck combo vs 1-ruck + forward/part-time ruck combo.

 

[sr36]

the value of the 2-ruck combo is in their pure rucking, around the ground follow-up, goals (& contested work) as KPF and, importantly, contested marking around the ground.

this needs to be the benchmark when you're comparing the 2-ruck combo vs 1-ruck + forward/part-time ruck combo.

Whilst they both continue to clunk marks, it's a winner. Particularly as Cox is a genuine threat up forward at the moment.

 

[windchimes]

the value of the 2-ruck combo is in their pure rucking, around the ground follow-up, goals (& contested work) as KPF and, importantly, contested marking around the ground.

this needs to be the benchmark when you're comparing the 2-ruck combo vs 1-ruck + forward/part-time ruck combo.

This is correct.

However the trade off is the potential benefit of having someone fast and dangerous below their knees like Kreugs- with one of him or McStay giving the chop out instead of a full time lumbering ruckman like Cox/Cameron (both good players, but limited).

Most teams don’t play with two rucks. It’s been going well for us, but there’s a chance we may seek to tweak things a bit before we go into finals- adding the extra dynamism of someone like a Krueger into the mix.

 

[sr36]

This is correct.

However the trade off is the potential benefit of having someone fast and dangerous below their knees like Kreugs- with one of him or McStay giving the chop out instead of a full time lumbering ruckman like Cox/Cameron (both good players, but limited).

Most teams don’t play with two rucks. It’s been going well for us, but there’s a chance we may seek to tweak things a bit going into finals- adding the extra dynamism of someone like a Krueger into the mix.

Can't see it happening without injuries. Cox is a very dangerous forward at the moment, who creates chances from 50/50s to the hotspot.

 

[partypie]

Whilst they both continue to clunk marks, it's a winner. Particularly as Cox is a genuine threat up forward at the moment.

Not only up forward, his work further up the ground has been really good for us as well.

 

[sr36]

Not only up forward, his work further up the ground has been really good for us as well.

He's just about the best 2nd ruck around at the moment.

 

[windchimes]

Can't see it happening without injuries. Cox is a very dangerous forward at the moment, who creates chances from 50/50s to the hotspot.

For sure. Cox’s form keeps Kru as a backup option for now, but if form or injuries happen it’s something we have up our sleeve.

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

Stay healthy in the VFL and he will be taking the spot of Ash Johnson.

 

[Kappa]

No

Are you sure ?

 

[Kappa]

Kreuger may get a chance earlier than expected.

 

[Finnishpie]

He will never be a replacement for Coxy or Cameron.

Come on Domus. Never? What if Cameron does his knee again?

 

[domus]

Come on Domus. Never? What if Cameron does his knee again?

He is not a ruckman. He could be a key forward. If he went into the middle it would be for 5 minutes per quarter or we will be slaughtered against a team like Melbourne.

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

McStay or Kreuger come in for Johnson v Adel you’d think.

 

[Finnishpie]

He is not a ruckman. He could be a key forward. If he went into the middle it would be for 5 minutes per quarter or we will be slaughtered against a team like Melbourne.

I don't reckon Johnson is a ruckman either. I would never say he'd "never" be a replacement for Cameron or Cox because ... well ... he was and it's possible.

 

[domus]

A forward set up with a fit and confident Krueger and McStay alongside Checkers would have provided more options than our line up today.

 

[domus]

McStay or Kreuger come in for Johnson v Adel you’d think.

I think we should give that trio (Checkers as well) a trial run in the coming weeks as all three can play tall but are also mobile and okay at ground level.

 

[3rdMan]

Can't see it happening without injuries. Cox is a very dangerous forward at the moment, who creates chances from 50/50s to the hotspot.

He's dangerous when he's there for the contest, but that's not often enough. How many marks did he contest in the second half today? So many kicks forward without any real contest from us. A McStay is sorely needed given his aerobic capacity and ability to compete.

We saw last year and again today, Mihocek and the rucks do not give us enough of a contest in games where ball movement is stymied. It's why we recruited McStay and why he'll be into the team asap.

 

[sr36]

He's dangerous when he's there for the contest, but that's not often enough. How many marks did he contest in the second half today? So many kicks forward without any real contest from us. A McStay is sorely needed given his aerobic capacity and ability to compete.

We saw last year and again today, Mihocek and the rucks do not give us enough of a contest in games where ball movement is stymied. It's why we recruited McStay and why he'll be into the team asap.

Except for Moore, our talls wound the clock back a couple of years. They all looked really meh.

 

[domus]

Never is a big statement.

I’m still not convinced we will have the luxury to run two rucks when everybody is fit and firing. If a key forward who can ruck is kicking multiple goals in the seconds, and the form of one of Cameron/cox slips marginally, then the pressure is on the selectors.

We haven’t even managed to slot mcstay in yet, not to mention getting DeGoey Sidebottom and Elliott back.

Cox and Cameron are locked in. That is our ruck set up if both are fit. They are going nowhere. Mcstay replaces AJ. Can you imagine Krueger at the centre bounce against Gawn today or in a final? What a terrifying thought!